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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 05:54 PM
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Sox Fan's Death Raises Questions on Force (THE PHOTO)
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041023/D85SR0O80.html



Victoria Snelgrove, a 21-year-old Emerson College student, lays on the sidewalk on Lansdowne Street in Boston early Thursday, Oct. 21, 2004, after being hit by a projectile fired by a Boston police officer into the uruly crowd outside Fenway Park. Snelgrove died hours after being hit, and fifteen others, including a police officer, suffered minor injuries in Boston's Kenmore Square neighborhoo. (AP Photo/Mary Knox Merrill
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LiberalBushFan Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 06:01 PM
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1. Why is the officer's name not released?
In any other murder it is.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 06:04 PM
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2. One clip I saw was a cop push a guy from behind as he was pushing his bike
the guy that got pushed looked over his shoulder to see who had shoved him. I believe the cops over-reacted but they shouldn't have to be working overtime for a sporting event. The teams should have to pay for the extra protection the cities need to supply.
We need, as a society, to stop the fanatic crap that goes on after sporting events. People need to grow the hell up, a game is a game. While it is OK to celebrate and be happy that your team wins, it isn't something to riot over.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:14 PM
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13. a couple points...
....they MUST name him at some point but most states don't require a name be released until the individual is arrested. Most states would have a higher standard, however.

most teams and large events do have contracts with local law enforcement whereby they pay overtime for uniformed and plain clothes cop services. it's a plum assignment.

that's how it is in my state, however....Mass may be somewhat different...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:45 PM
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20. And just WHERE is this "extra protection" gonna come from?
Rent-a-Cops?
No thank you, I'd rather have over-worked, tired regular police around me with firearms than a bunch of GED-holding Neanderthals who failed the Psych test for the force....
Of course, a stressed-out cop can kill you just as dead as Mr. "Guns! When do we get GUNS???"
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 06:43 PM
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3. Thank God her friend stayed with her...She didn't die alone.
Rest in Peace.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 06:56 PM
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4. I hope all her classmates
vote AGAINST Bush--hope they make the CONNECTION
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AnyMajorDudeTellYou Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:05 PM
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5. Senseless death
Why on Earth were Sox fans burning cars, smashing storefronts and rioting just because the Sox won a ballgame? Who are these morons that riot?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:11 PM
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6. why are we bombing and killing innocent Iraqis?
why are our soldiers dying every day? Who are thse morons that warmonger?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:18 PM
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:22 PM
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8. how about we just ban all ignorant conservatives?
that would do it
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AnyMajorDudeTellYou Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:30 PM
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11. How would you go about doing that?
Would you lock up people that act, think or vote conservative? Maybe find the conservative gene and abort children with the gene? How do you envision enforcing such a ban?

Without conservatives would we not have game riots and wars? Is that your premise?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:36 PM
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12. I'm not thinking of locking people up
I'd just like them off of this board
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:26 PM
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19. That would be a great beginning!
:eyes: :bounce:
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:23 PM
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9. So BoSox fans are Bush-like?
I can agree with that.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:24 PM
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10. naw, Sean
just responding to a pattern of behaviour
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:20 PM
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14. Sure...
...and you can kiss my Red Sox fan's butt.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:48 PM
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17. I live among them in East Texas
and 99 percent of them claim to be born-again Christians.

I believe in the message of Jesus Christ, but the organized religion created in the American South in His name had better be eliminated soon or this wholw world will go up in nuclear conflagration.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:25 PM
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15. It's a miracle no one died in NYC during the RNC. Bloomberg got lucky.
I know a rowdy crowd needs to be dealt with but there has to be a better way than firing into it.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:26 PM
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16. Victoria Snelgrove ... lays on the sidewalk....
LIES on the sidewalk, damn it.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:23 PM
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18. Sad! n/t
:eyes:
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