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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:09 PM
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Qaeda group warns US of 'unbearable hell' after Bush re-election
DUBAI (AFP) - A group linked to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s Al-Qaeda network threatened the United States with reprisals after the re-election of President George W. Bush (news - web sites), warning of "unbearable hell," in a website statement.


"The coming days will show you that the one you preferred will lead you to an unbearable hell," said the group calling itself the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades after the Al-Qaeda military chief killed in Afghanistan (news - web sites) in October 2001.


In Washington, a US official said Friday that the message appeared to be authentic.


He noted that the Abu Hafs Brigades, which has also claimed responsibility for the deadly Madrid train bombings in March, had previously used the website where the latest message was posted.

more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1511&ncid=1511&e=8&u=/afp/20041105/wl_afp/us_bush_qaeda_041105164333

Just in time for Fallujah, * will use this message to his advantage. :eyes:
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:12 PM
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1. Fucking great, they ARE working for him.
This "War on Terror" is exactly as real and as popular as pro-wrestling.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:13 PM
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2. Well like I need Al Queda to tell me that.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:14 PM
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3. Well, no sh*t
Their number one recruiting poster boy kept his job. I bet they couldn't be happier.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:14 PM
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4. Oh FUCK! That's right, their "top recruiter" just got another 4 years.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:15 PM by PROGRESSIVE1
:mad:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:18 PM
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78. No kidding!!!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
97. LOL, and they say "unbearable hell"?
Isn't that what the next four years will be anyway?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:15 PM
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5. Um...is there any way we can direct them to the red states?
OH, shit! That would be MY state!

Never mind.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:49 PM
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24. And mine!
Do you think that all of us who voted for Kerry could put our yard signs and bumper stickers on/around our homes to prevent them from attacking us? Sorta like what the Jews did to prevent the angel of death from taking away their children...what was that...put blood on the door to indicate who should not be killed?

Sarcasm intended.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #24
93. We'll just smear lamb's blood on our door and maybe they'll
pass over us?
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:18 AM
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99. Self Deleted
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 12:24 AM by Amigust
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:16 PM
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50. I live in a Red state, too. Thanks, Bush Bastards.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 02:18 PM by Kimber Scott
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
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6. REal foreign terrorists would ONLY hit red states. Remember that.
They would not hit a blue state because we tried to get rid of him. But Bush would hit a blue state and if a blue state is hit, don't be fooled into thinking it's not him.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:34 PM
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17. Bullsh*t
*moron doesn't give a rat's ass about any human life.

he'll use them like he's used all others...like cannon fodder.

dp
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RivetJoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:00 PM
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86. YAWN
AQ is toothless, if they COULD do anything, they'd DO it, and stop sounding like a four year old.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:44 PM
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23. Unfortunately, they will hit the cities, which went for Kerry
SInce there are more people in the cities, that's where they will strike, even though urban America went for Kerry, and rural America went for Bush. And once they attack the cities, the fundies will tsk tsk at how God punished the cities for voting for Kerry and being so liberal, and we will shift further to the right.

Civil War, anyone? That's what's happening. Hang on, it's not going to be pretty.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #23
51. well
Houston, Dallas, Austin do have a lot of people. And these cities probably went for Bush, they were saying BRING IT ON to Osama.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #51
84. Pardon me, but... WRONG!!!!!
Austin went for Kerry, 56 to 42%! Don't hit me with that paintbrush, I'll defend my city!!! :-)

(I'm teasing, I'm not really going to hit you or anything.)
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #23
63. There are plenty of high population centers
In Jesusland. But I don't think anywhere is particularly safe. We are all going to get the nuke enema for allowing Bush to be re-selected.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #63
85. Even in Jesus Land
The highest concentration of true Americans (Democrats) is in the cities.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
27. How do you know that?
Have you got connections into the terrorist networks? should I contact the FBI. Diss * all you want, I agree. but c'mon, the terrorists hate all Americans, not just * voters. Get a grip.
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212demop Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #27
42. The objective is to bleed us financially remember?
That means New York is still the number 1 target no matter how blue we are.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #27
43. "Have you got connections into the terrorist networks?"
Considering your post, you might ask yourself the same thing. :shrug:
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #43
62. Would you care to explain
that comment, friend?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:17 PM
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70. (it should be obvious, but) "the terrorists hate all Americans" ??
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 04:18 PM by TahitiNut
Just what horse's ass did you pull that from? Is that what them thar 'terra-ists' told you? :eyes:

If you're going to engage in a fallacy-laden attack, you might consider vacating the glass house.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. Well,
I take their word for it. If somebody says he hates Americans, and doesn't say "except Democrats", then I assume they are included. A jet airliner in a skyscraper doesn't distinguish between loved and hated Americans. You, evidently, have trouble connecting dots here.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:47 PM
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80. And a nation that drops bombs killing women and children ...
... then must HATE all women and children, too, I suppose? Indeed, the entire nation of America must hate all Iraqis no matter what their age or gender! After all, there's no such thing as "collateral damage" is there? :eyes:

It should be plain that Global Corporatism and its Military Enforcers were the target. Their words and actions are consistent in that regard. Seems to me that their 'collateral damage' was less widespread than the 100,000+ Iraqis we've killed.

"Connect the dots" indeed ... single-dimensional, simple-minded bullshit.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:45 PM
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94. Your logic is spotty.
No Americans, not even *, are saying that they hate Iraqis and that that alone justifies killing them. This is not about the Iraq war, anyway. This is about my statement that they terrorists hate all Americans, even you :eyes: if you happen to be American. They kill French and Italians and other Arabs, too.

Whatever America does, the terrorists want to kill Americans. But suppose, after I've put my ass, which I just laughed off, back on, and try to take you seriously for a moment, answer me this: which Americans do the terrorists NOT hate? and why. :dunce:
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #80
95. Thank you! Well put.
Though I don't feel any safer
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #27
71. You just have
to read the full transcript of Bin Laden's tape on the al-Jazeera website to know what he thinks.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:41 PM
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41. Why wouldn't they?
Wouldn't it be more effective to hit a blue state and deepen the divide? Wouldn't it also be more effective to hit areas of greater importance to the economy or political structure to cause disruption?

If a red state hits it seems driven solely for terrorizing and creation of fear.....that is what Bush's ally is.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:05 PM
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88. Hehehe! that's funny
And stupid! Hope you were being sarcastic.

Bin Laden doesn't care which money-grubbing, oil hogging, tax paying, war financing Americans he hits. So what, we voted for Kerry. Did our bombs ask the children of Afghanistan whether they liked Bin Laden before they were blown into little fragments of flesh and bone? Do you think it's a distinction he'll make, or anyof his commanders? They don't want Bush gone, they want America gone.

If anything, he prefers to blow up liberals. We are his enemy. If we win, we will stop the bloodbath, we will undo what Bush has done, we will try to bleed off his supporters through justice and charity, and Bin Laden will have no pissed off radicals to do his dirty work for him. Blow up liberals, leave only conservatives. They are stupid, they are weaker, they have no backbone and they can't do without their creature comforts without whining. They are far easier to defeat.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
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7. I Have NEVER Been Afraid of a Terror Attack
and I live inside the DC beltway.

Never, that is, until Bush won.
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soundhead Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. If you truly want to be safe...
always stay in the same town as Bush. I guarantee you no harm will come to you. Why would Bush attack himself?

Next attack spot: probably Los Angeles.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:59 PM
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29. He will start spending even more time at the ranch....
he's such a little coward, avoiding the draft and hiding out
in the National Guard stateside kept him alive. He will hide
out again.
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awgoodkitty Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #10
33. no way
California went blue!


But you're right. * won't be in LA anytime soon, I'm sure. Or any other blue state. Hope we don't have a natural disaster in the next four years. Probably won't get any FEMA relief.

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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:55 PM
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46. No, please not Los Angles!
They are pretty poor and have to deal with earthquakes so don't say that. Where's Ahnold though,does Osama like Nazis?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:11 PM
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89. MIAMI is a perfect target. Think about it.! Also some big cities in Texas
I'd hate to live near Crawford.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:20 PM
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8. Well, I, for one, certainly feel safer now - NOT! Watch them all flock
to their Chimpy Messiah for protection. It we are attacked again he will not be held accountable for his failure, no just the opposite. It will somehow strengthen their resolve to "blow them towel-heads to bits".

I am so fricking ashamed of this country. I can't even say "my" country anymore.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:22 PM
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9. Can't they tell us something we don't already know?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:23 PM
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11. and Al Queda doesn't have to do a thing
We will do it all to ourselves.

The ultimate in Kung Fu terrorism - get your enemy to commit suicide.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:29 PM
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14. We won't be attacked
It's all a bunch of bullshit. 9-11 gave them what they wanted and the fucking * took advantage of the real love of country when the Dems stood together, he then turned around and has been terrorizing the people of the US for 3 years. He can not keep up this charade if we are attacked on his watch. Alert, Alert, Alert, we saved you, we saved you, we saved you. It will not be Osama that strikes us, it will be a splinter faction from Osama who thinks that Osama is not radical enough and will accuse Osama of going soft on the US president by not attacking.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:26 PM
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12. So US officials confirm that Unbearable Hell is an authentic forecast?
Sounds about right. Just checking.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. Is it global warming or the coming apocalypse?
Stay tuned on Fox news....
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:27 PM
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13. No problem, we have Bush who will keep us safe and the missile shield
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:28 PM by Mountainman
The country voted for Bush because only he can keep us safe and he will bring about moral absolutes. God is with us. Not to worry.

Sarcasm off
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:29 PM
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15. The color alert system has lost it's political value since the "election"
So they won't bother with that anymore. chimp will simply ignore all of this as he did prior to 9/11 since, in reality, they are powerless to actually do anything about an attack anyway.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:36 PM
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40. You hit the nail on the head.
I don't know why more people don't see this. It was so transparent anyway - at least to those of us with a brain. The color coded alert system was meant to keep the sheeple afraid and it worked. You won't see any more of it.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:29 PM
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16. It a way of getting around Al Jazeera's
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:32 PM by Nicholas_J
co-operation in not showing the latest Bin Laden tape.
I have read on the tracking terroism site that the tape is being shown on Islamic sites used by insurgents. and that emails on these sites are reveealing these insurgents discussing the content ofthe bin Laden tapes. The Bush government does not want them shown and for reasons known onblt to itself Al Jazeera is complying. It is known that Bin Laden did threaten to attack only states that went fror Bush in the elections, as when you read the transcripts of the first bin Laden tape, If you know a little about arabic, that the translations are so awkward, that it is apparant that the translators were requird to somewhat alter the message to sound like similar messages rather than a new one. As pointed out in another thread, the binLaden tape indicated that Bin Laden would be hitting "states' (red ones) but in the translations it was made to sound as if Bin Laden was refering to "states" as in nation states. The awkwardness of the translation made this very much apparant. It is not all that difficult to translate Arabic into something resembling smooth flowing English speech.

Since the release of this statement it is fairly obvious that a number of Al Qaeda linked groups have recieved their marching orders from the tape that Al Jazeera is holding back, and that insurgents alone are seeing on internet sites now.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. herein lies the problem for Chimpy..
It is not all that difficult to translate Arabic into something resembling smooth flowing English speech.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. If there is an attack within the US shortly, it probably means they've
been here in cells all along. Yes, that's a big IF.

Great job Shrub! Thank GAWD we were able to send Cat Stevens packing though. :eyes:
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:16 PM
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34. Two fact that those who supported Bush are never told
even though the briefest of reflection would make it obvious.

Saddam was a brutal thug within his own borders, but an utter failure and even cowardly outside of it. He failed in his war against Iran, though he had a vastly superior military. He failed in Kuwait, He failed in his assassination plans against George H.W. Bush that he never even came close to pulling it off. He was such a failure that he didnt even attempt to retaliate against Israel when they destroyed tho Osirak reactor. There is simply no way in hell that he consitutited a danger to the U.S. \, as even if he had WMD's he would be too frightened of the consequences if he gave them to Al Qaeda.

On the other hand Al Qaeda has been sucessful at 95 percent of everything they have attempted. and they are not frightened to attempt again after every failure.

The average time between attacks on targets where American Civilians are involves has been 4 years. George Bush as given him three by failing to bring the operations in Tora Bora to a conclusion entirely with crack American troops. Even if, as Tommy Franks recently said, we didnt KNOW if he was actually there, the abandoning of that mission to Afghani Warlords was a major mistake, There is not way we should have abandoned being the only group that followed this mission to its conclusion, so that we co9uld be certain that he was not there, or that we could have captured him if he was.

If you go back to the period in which we kept cornering Mullah Omar, each time the U.S. troops stayed outside or the city he was in and surrounded, we turned over negotiations for the surrender of the Taliban forces to these same warlords, and every time, this gave the Mullah opportunity to escape. There was ample evidence that these warlords could not be trusted to capture and turn over bin Laden. Like most extremely conservative Muslims, these warlords took our money, but let bin Laden escape, as Islamic law requires. The Afghani's particularly those in the areas outside of the major cities, are extremely consevative, They would never turn over a fellow Muslim to an infidel force. In fact the same Islamic law makes it a virtue to cheat an infidel.


How ever, the average right wing supporter of George Bush is pretty much like George Bush, incapable of reflection on all facts, and just blunders ahead, without thought of the consequences of every action.
I sincerely wish that only the supporters of Bush would suffer the consequences of his overwhelming failure to attempt to capture Bin Laden, or at least find the complete truth about his presnece in Tora Bora.

His failure threatens all of us, when real justice would allow that terrorism only threaten them.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #16
31. Those insurgent websites
have a strange way of tracing straight back to the offices of those who are supposed to be watching the henhouse.

As for those awkward translations,
Azzam the American intern from the US Department of Justice
(also known as Adam Pearlman of UCLA Class or '03)
did not manage to learn as much Arabic
while living on the Gadahn goat-farm in Riversida County, California,
as he led his "al qaeda" handlers to beleive.

But he certainly ties a mean keffiah.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #31
69. Not referring to Assam
But to the translation of the last bin Laden tape. The translation was awakward at best, and most awkward in areas that referred to red and blue states and even more awkward when bin Laden spoke about the 20 minutes before the attack on September 11th. The reading was so awkward that it could be read that Al Qaeda gave Bush a 20 minute warning that the attack was coming, or that the 20 minute warning that they could have gotten before the attack was not enough time for them to react. It was one of the most awkward English translations I have ever seen.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #69
74. The way I read it
was that they thought there would be a 20-minute window to actually carry out the attacks, as after this time time the authorities would figure out what was going on and leap into action to prevent any further disasters.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:35 PM
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18. Well, no kidding, after OSAMA STUMPED FOR BUSH
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:35 PM by Say_What
and his wars dujour.

:puke:
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:37 PM
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20. You will never convince me
that OBL isn't making these tapes in the Embassy Suites in Chicago and Rove isn't the camera man.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. Well I'm thinking the Lincoln Bedroom
but same cameraman...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:49 PM
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25. This won't bother the Rapture people
Unbearable Hell is just what they expect for most of us anyway. If they get caught up in it, they will just call it a tribulation, to strengthen their faith.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:25 PM
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37. They are joyous at this news I bet
Want something like this desperately
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:57 PM
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28. I hope they use the electoral collage map next time they...
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:59 PM by Cobalt Violet
pick a target.


HA ha! Surgical Strikes.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:01 PM
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30. Can we send OBL a list of Kerry voters ...
... so he leaves our families alone ? :shrug:

Please ? :shrug:



:hippie:
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:14 PM
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32. Tinfoil Hat Theories
Bush allowed 9/11 to happen to gain political support from Democrats and the rest of the world. Bush will allow another terrorist attack to occur so he can make a mad power grab and do away with any pretense of liberty (like Putin did in Russia).

Of course, that's crazy talk and I don't really believe it....
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:19 PM
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35. we're on self destruct....don't waste your energy terrorists.
:mad:
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:19 PM
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36. Thanks, Al-Qaeda. (May I call you Al?)
Some of us here are already hip to that. We've done more damage to ourselves than you could ever dream of, and you haven't had to lift a finger.
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:29 PM
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39. It's like Chris Rock said
"I'm not afraid of Al-Queda. I'm afraid of Al Cracker."
Cracker bush that is.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:51 PM
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44. made me laugh for the first time since Tuesday evening...
thanks
:bounce:
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:28 PM
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38. Dear Osama
Please start with the voting machines. Thanks.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:53 PM
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45. Another attack would give Bush reason to declare martial law
Regardless of whether the next attack is LIHOP or MIHOP, the result could be the same: a declaration of martial law.

As reported here and here, plans have already been made to "secure" the country in case of an emergency.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:59 PM
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47. so is this
is this another "little gift" for the insane ones (R)?

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:12 PM
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48. Yes, a little more fear for "my precious"
Sorry, I couldn't do the voice of Gollum!

I do think that it would make the fundamentalists very excited to see the nation in a lock-down. To them, the Rapture would be just around the corner.
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lynintenn Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:51 PM
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82. Where are we gonna get the troops
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:12 PM
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49. Will someone please tell UBL that *ush stole the election?!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:19 PM
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53. And that he did it in Florida. Florida ! Florida ! Florida !
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:15 PM
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52. unbearable Hell, eh?
What the FUCK, the last four years have not been

A FUCKING ROSE GARDEN EXACTLY, OR HAVEN'T YOU NOTICED???

Now go away...find some other playmates...we have enough problems of our own already...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:20 PM
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54. Too late, guys - Bu$h already stole the election . Unbearable hell is
already here for any decent person.

So don't take it out on us.

If you don't like Bu$h and the neocon agenda, take it up with them and their supporters.

Just leave innocent people alone.
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PhuLoi Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:22 PM
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55. I sure hope they don't target FOX NEWS HEADQUARTERS.
That would be just awfull. Or ANN COULTER or SCALIA or the FREE REPUBLIC in FRESNO CA. That would certainly make us sorry that we elected *.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:24 PM
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56. Quick! Get * another little book to read!
or is he still working on his Goat book?
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:27 PM
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57. P.S. But thanks for agreeing with us about gay marriage! (nt)
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Trailmix Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:35 PM
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58. You have to admit terrorists have had a rough week..
Between Bush being re-elected, Arafat on his deathbed, Falluja under massive assault, al-Zarqawi probably in Falluja....
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:40 PM
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60. The terrorists have had a great weak.
Recruits are lining up & Bush will ensure they'll keep coming.

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Trailmix Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:53 PM
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65. nobody wants to see the creation of a martyr
I agree, nobody wants to see the creation of a martyr... but organizations need leaders to be effective. The removal of Arafat and al-Zarqawi at the same time could give us some momentum.. That is a good thing.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:05 PM
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68. You make an unfounded assumption
Namely that the Iraqi resistance is part of a centrally organized terrorist network, rather than a guerilla effort by local groups. The misconception is understandable, since it is easier for the government and its lackeys in the media to portray our effort in Iraq as a fight against a relatively small group of bandits led by an easily identifiable figurehead, rather than merely a continuation of the war on Iraq started last year.

Al-Zarqawi is a Basayev of sorts - a terrorist, kidnapper and criminal for sure, but an insufficient reason to explain why the war has dragged on for a year and a half past the optimistic expectations of our ruling elite. We're fighting the average Iraqi in his own country. Wars of this type have not traditionally been a success for the occupying power.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:16 PM
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77. You think they'll just go away?
Sorry, the Palestinians will continue to have valid grievances. Will a more "moderate" leader get better results from Israel?

And the Iraqis are fighting an army of occupation.

You are dead wrong: Many want to see the creation of a martyr. Jefferson said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I believe the phrase has come up in some Irish history, as well.
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Trailmix Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:55 PM
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96. Well....Yes..
Sorry, the Palestinians will continue to have valid grievances. Will a more "moderate" leader get better results from Israel?

I think that Bill Clinton would have been much more successful with a more "moderate" leader. Arafat works for Arafat, not for the palistinians.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:57 PM
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83. The "removal" of Zarqawi is going to create a whole city of martyrs
Organizations as fragmented as terror cells and insurgencies are never short of leaders. They are fueled by zealots and frustrated nationalists, with weak central organization. Even if Zarqawi is in Fallujah, the impending operation is going to accomplish very little with a whole lot of death.

Osama Bin Laden is laughing his ass off at us.
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:37 PM
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59. Can't access link...
Hmmmmmm.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:47 PM
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61. still works for me
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:52 PM
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64. That group is full of shit
They're the ones that claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombing and, if I'm not mistaken, claimed responsibility for the blackouts in the NE a couple years ago.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:54 PM
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66.  Ah Hell, none of us are getting out of this alive anyway.
There is only one direction that my anger is currently focused. That's toward the one I see and hear every day.

"Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct."

The White Rose - First Leaflet
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:57 PM
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67. Tell us something we DON'T know, Osama!
The last two fucking DAYS have been unbearable hell.
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:21 PM
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73. Life in the US will be a living hell
even without al Qaeda
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:21 PM
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79. Highjacked by criminals all the way round!!!
and no where for a sanctuary.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:04 PM
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76. We know already. It's not AlQaeda I'm afraid of though
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:49 PM
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81. What exactly makes a message authentic or not, how does one
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 05:50 PM by hangloose
determine if this message for instance is authentic or not. How does anyone know that "Hangloose" was the actual party to this message or "Hangten" drafted it. It's all bullshit. I for one don't give to cents what the CIA thinks.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:02 PM
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87. So what else is new?
I hope most of our people in the midwest get the hell out of there before too long. Perhaps al qaeda will look at the electoral map and see where the biggest Bush supporters are, and go after them before going after those of us who voted for Kerry-Edwards. </sarcasm> ;)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:15 PM
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90. We hardly need al-Qaeda to bring us "unbearable hell"
Bush**, Rumsfeld, Asscroft (oh please please be true about him resiging!), Frist (meow), DeLay, and the upcoming Extreme Court will be more than capable of making our lives "unbearable hell" without any help from al-Qaeda, thank you very much. :(
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:24 PM
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91. It's authentic, it's right off Rove's desk
what a crock of shit!
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RivetJoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 06:29 PM
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92. Oh Gee Osmama
We are SOOOOO scared!
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:56 PM
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98. * will just part the seas and raise his hands....
and the world will be calm, NOT, and rove will be at his feet licking the sand from them.
Another fear factor, to keep people in line, repukes love fearrrrrr. Its their way of life.
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