Mystery Sub Spotted in Japanese Waters

[sleipnir]

BY MARI YAMAGUCHI

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4607166,00.html

Associated Press Writer

TOKYO (AP) - Japan's navy went on alert Wednesday when an unidentified submarine made a brief incursion into the country's southern waters near Okinawa.

The submarine left Japanese waters shortly after it was spotted and a reconnaissance aircraft and destroyer were monitoring its movements, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda said. Tokyo also was trying to determine where the vessel came from.

If the submarine's origin is identified, Japan will take ``necessary steps,'' Hosoda said, without elaborating.

Kyodo News quoted unidentified defense officials as saying that the vessel may be a Chinese nuclear submarine.


Guess it's time for the war in the Pacific to take off again.

[Parche]

1. sub

Periscope up, Set, Mark, Fire 1, 2,3
all hot straight and normal..............................

[Steely_Dan]

20. Woah...You've Been There

[Malikshah]

2. Hollywood!!!! Hollywoodd!!!!

Sorry, but for some reason that scene from 1941 came to mind :)

[mmichaelak]

5. 1941

Horryrood! Horryrood!

I was thinking the same thing. LOL

[newyawker99]

13. Hi mmichaelak!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[sniffa]

3. dupe - and it's not a sub

it's godziLLa

[BikeWriter]

4. Could this be one of the North Korean Subs?

Could this be one of the surplus Russian subs Rev. Moon bought and sold to North Korea?

[lil-petunia]

6. Chinese subs are much more dangerous than NK's

Even though they are diesel, they are so quiet that even we have problems finding them when submerged.

NK's are quite a bit noisier.

[DS1]

8. Deisel quieter than nukes underwater, due to battery power.

No water pumps.

[lil-petunia]

9. and the chinese are planning a battle against the US ultimately.

NK does not have the resources to build both missiles and subs, not to mention nukes.

[newyawker99]

14. Hi BikeWriter!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[BikeWriter]

21. Hey, thanks newyawker99

Hey, thanks newyawker99. I'd been reading here through the election and decided I'd better join up and participate in everything. You guys are da bomb!

[DS1]

7. New! SOGGY BRAND QUIZNOS!!

:7

[TahitiNut]

11. Yup. Hoagies and Heroes spotted to the northeast, too.

:silly:

[BikeWriter]

24. Hee hee hee! There's one in every crowd. :-)

Hee hee hee! There's one in every crowd. :-) Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont!

[BikeWriter]

10. Rev. Moon's submarines, sold to Kim Jong-Il: nuke threat?

Jane's Defense Weekly is reporting this week that Kim Jong-Il, unstable North Korean dictator (I wrote about his kidnapping habit in the British Guardian) may be able to target California with sea-launched missiles. His know-how, the Reuters story relates, comes from 12 ex-Soviet submarines that fell into his hands. They came with their original launch tubes and stabilizing gear intact. Where does Kim get those wonderful toys?

Funny story: According to U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency documents from 1994 (which you can browse here), they were furnished by Reverend Moon.

Robert Parry, the ace reporter who broke the Iran-Contra story, obtained these files through the Freedom of Information Act while writing his 2000 story, "Rev. Moon, North Korea and the Bushes," about Moon's gifts to the Communist regime. Read on, if you dare. (Glossary: KN = North Korea)

<http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2004/08/rev-moons-submarines-sold-to-kim-jong.html>

[rppper]

16. these are ancient foxtrot and golf subs....very, very obsolete

the foxtrot design dates back to the german xxi class...a technical marvel in 1944.....and the golf class were the first russian ssb's...they had their fair share of teething problems...a few of them sunk, as they had to surface to launch the old ss4 missiles they carried. we once tried to raise a sunken one to get the information on the obsolete missiles they carried...this was in 1974. google "glomar explorer" to get all the facts. the foxtrots are a standard submarine...they carry no missiles.

a foxtrot class submarine....


a golf class sub.....


not very fearsome when you get right down to it.....

[Democracy Died 2004]

19. umm nuclear tipped torpedoes are

not scary?

[BikeWriter]

22. Uh, I won't relax until I know they can't sneak into our harbors...

I won't relax until I know they can't sneak into our harbors. Of course I suppose any one of their tramp steamers could be toting an A bomb. :-(

[Stinky The Clown]

23. Glomar Explorer

There's a blast from the past!

[BiggJawn]

12. Maybe it's a long-lost "Monsoon" Uboat crew...

"Hey, we finally got here! Sorry about that, but my prize specimen of a navigator had us lost for the LONGEST time!"

Or maybe it's Russians, delivering an eBay win to a japanese collector?

[oneighty]

15. Captain Nemo

survived Mysterious Island. He is on the hunt again.

180

[LiberalEconomist]

17. Godzilla!!! n/t

[AngryAmish]

18. China wants Formosa back

The problem is getting the Chinese Red Army to Taiwan. None of their ships could get there without being sunk by torpedoes or air-launch missiles. Tiny steps for the Chinese Navy.