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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:37 PM
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Its official, Baptists back expulsion of North Carolina 9
This should really come as no surprise. Read the entire article, once again we see the perpetrator become the victim of the liberal media.
Here's the link:

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20758

Many facts have gone unreported or obscured in the media’s efforts to scandalize a young minister who has taken a stand for biblical morality and the life of a baby resting in her mother’s womb.

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Do you wonder how those nine had behaved during the seven months between Chan’s statement on John Kerry in October and last Monday evening? Have any reporters asked whether disunity and ongoing, uncharitable disruption in the church by this group of nine played any part in the final vote tally?

Does it tell us something that in spite of the Bible’s clear admonition not to take one another to court in 1 Corinthians 6, the nine’s first response was to go find a lawyer? Is there more to this story, and is the media interested in finding it?

When do you think the media will report that the core of Chan’s message was the very message of the Catholic Church and its new Pope who, before becoming Pope, wrote a paper calling for communion to be withheld from those who actively support abortion, presumably identifying Kerry clearly enough for even the media to understand it.
You cannot call yourself a member of a church that stands against abortion and then actively support abortion through your politics.

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What a novel idea! Your life should match your religious profession. As we used to say when I was growing up, “You gotta walk the talk!” Imagine that, Christians living out with integrity what they claim to believe.

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However, since I believe that America should protect freedom of conscience and the right to speak freely in a religious pulpit, I am saddened that a young minister should be subject to such an inquisition for standing for biblical morality and the teachings of his church.

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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:42 PM
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1. Not really surprised
By the way the Southern Baptist Convention pretty much rooted out its moderates years ago (my parents among them). Most of the moderate leaning Baptists either formed their own churches apart from the majority or went to other denominations(sp).
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:42 PM
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2. OK, let's take this one statement:
"What a novel idea! Your life should match your religious profession. As we used to say when I was growing up, “You gotta walk the talk!” Imagine that, Christians living out with integrity what they claim to believe."

I'll believe those sanctimonious prigs care about living the life their professed god and saviour pointed out for them when they sell everything they have and give all their money to the inner city poor, give their houses to the homeless, and spend all their time visiting the sick in hospitals and all people incarcerated in prison.

When they do that, they'll have something important to say to the rest of us. Until that happens, they're just a bunch of hypocrites, deserving of having their fake churches taxed, retroactively one hopes.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:45 PM
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3. we knew it! the minister is the victim here!
he's only trying to do god's work! it says in the bible 'thou shalt not vote for kerry' and 'thou shalt expunge from your midst those that cleave unto democrats'

and for this, he's subjected to free press and massive fame and support from like-minded christians, so much so that he must resign to accept all this glory and attention, and, no doubt, a cushy political appointment or perhaps even a senate seat.

and he was just trying to do his humble little job, doing his modest piece of god's work.

poor guy.

:sarcasm:
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:47 PM
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4. brood of vipers standing up for each other....I'm sure he's a hero to some
of those people.
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:47 PM
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5. Landover Baptist
This sounds like something from LB, sadly alot of churches ARE staring to sound like LB.

Dee
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:30 PM
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9. Landover Baptist has become reality n/t
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:00 PM
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6. Yup.
If you are not 100% with them, you are against them.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:09 PM
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7. What a funny question:
"Have any reporters asked whether disunity and ongoing, uncharitable disruption in the church by this group of nine played any part in the final vote tally?"

Wouldn't it make sense for the author to do the research and find out if they were disruptive, instead of just implying - with no sources - that they were, but the media refuses to report it?

It's more fun this way, I guess, because you don't need actual facts. Have any reporters asked whether this author is another of those right-wingers that's into having sex with mules?

Yes, definitely more fun this way, asking open-ended questions - that way no one can accuse you of telling lies.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 04:08 PM
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26. Well, some say............ ya know? the language of the smear, not the
facts. Wonder which White House mouthpieces whores journalists they've learned that lesson from?
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newfaceinhell Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:57 PM
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8. pathetic
And i see the top story at "bpnews" is about SBC leaders backing scrapping the filibuster. I'm really struggling to fathom why that should be any of the SBC's business.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 08:02 PM
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10. Because Jesus was against filibusters
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:43 AM
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12. ...Except for when he's for them. nt
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:09 PM
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11. MINISTER STARTS 'CHURCH OF GEORGE W. BUSH'



MINISTER STARTS 'CHURCH OF GEORGE W. BUSH'


By SCOTT STEVENS

WHILE many evangelicals consider George W. Bush to be the most religious President in a long time, a Texas minister is taking it a big step further: He's open The First Church of George. W. Bush.

Minister Phillip Gomez says, "Bush is God's messenger on Earth. It's clear that God put Bush in the White House to do his bidding.

"Look at the evidence: Bush didn't even win the election in 2000, and yet God found a way to put him in office. Plus, Bush is infallible. He's been asked a number of times to name something he's done wrong, and he can't think of a single thing.

"And look at the symbolism. Metaphorically Bush spent forty years wandering in the 'desert' of being a drunken frat-boy.

Then he was saved."

Gomez's church is marked by a huge "W" on the outside, along with a Bush quote, "I want to make the pie higher for all people."

On the church altar is an 18-foot-tall figurine of an angry Bush with steam shooting out of his ears. That shows, Gomez says, "The burning Bush."

http://weeklyworldnews.com/features/religion/61524
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:49 AM
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13. Weekly World News is the only place left
for real journalism. :-)

Why is the mainstream media ignoring the fact that a woman in Galveston, Texas recently gave birth to a Chimp?

I'll tell you why, because it would embarrass Barbara Bush!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 04:10 AM
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17. HEY GOMEZ YOU IGNORANT F***
ANTONIN SCALIA IS NOT GOD
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:58 PM
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24. It's a humor site but not far from a future church
just like landover. gomez is not real,
i posted sarcasm
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newfaceinhell Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 05:49 AM
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18. lol...well, i guess it's a natural extension
God bless the weekly world news!
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SeaDee Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:27 AM
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14. What a Christian thinks
As a Christian I am saddend to see churchs becoming more concerend with politics than God.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 02:03 AM
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15. Well said, SeaDee. And welcome to DU.
best,
-Technowitch
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:57 PM
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23. Once again
it is not the communal Church but the fringe and the hijackings by political ideologues of the right, who it would not surprise me at all to find becoming more and more involved in their most venal and sordid worldly corruptions. They sought power like popes once ordered Crusaders to the slaughter. It is the most absolute dereliction of Christ's command to those who would lead. No different than stooges in the NRA or AARP or the DLC. Unity of the damned, the few and the proud. Damned few too, I hope.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 02:21 AM
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16. He had one good point:
There's little difference between this yahoo and the Papenfuhrer.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 05:52 AM
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19. Since when did the Southern Baptist Church start listening to the
Roman Catholic Church?
Catholics should be aware that most Baptists, Southern Baptists in particular, think Catholics aren't Christian. The SBs want to "convert" you, Catholics.
Geez.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:23 AM
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20. ....Pope of Rome?
My thoughts, exactly. Raised Catholic in semi-rural Texas--way back when.

(The old neighborhood is now suburban & more diverse. Lots of Vietnamese Catholics, for instance!)
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:53 PM
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22. When enemies agree
watch your pockets. The Catholic leadership is being sucked into the Cultic Coalition. To allow this you might as well be a Moonie than a Christian. The "ecumenism" of uniting on political RW purges to the detriment of all morality except impossible sexual tyranny is one house not divided you don't want to be in on Judgment Day. The twist of the new Pope in narrow doctrinal targeting against the spiritual core of the faith is likely indeed to take the mouthings of ecumenism and unity to such lengths with never bothering their anointed heads about real articles of beliefs and communal practice, much less the dire cries of massive suffering from Christ's abandoned people.

Paul would not hesitate in being enraged about this sorry show, if he could comprehend it, that the Church suddenly has democratic responsibility in politics and uses it to install bloody handed monsters and the depraved. Dante's Hell is aptly populated with esteemed authorities- and popes.

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youspeakmylanguage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:33 PM
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25. It's the Gannon way of dealing with scandal!
Edited on Thu May-12-05 01:35 PM by youspeakmylanguage
Refuse to refute or deny specific allegations. That way you can still imply that you're innocent even if you aren't AND you can play the persecution card to it's fullest extent. Once you actually have to answer real questions later (usually under oath), the public has moved on and you can reveal what you really did in the peaceful potter's field of page 18. Then you write a memoir and become a fringe radio show host.

Dog bless America!
:patriot:
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