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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:04 PM
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Ok all, I need some help here! It's all Clinton's fault!
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 03:31 PM by leftupnorth
A Bushite dead ender replied to my op-ed in my local paper you can read here: http://www.gaylordheraldtimes.com/articles/2005/10/03/news/opinion/opinion03.txt

Here's the reply, sorry no link they don't update their website till monday so i have to copy it by hand, all spelling/grammar errors are his.

To the editor:

The letter from Daniel Tomaski is really far out. It is but another attack on the Bush administation. Mr. Tomaski takes a thread of truth on Condoleeza Rice, Vice President Cheney, and George W. Bush thens spins a web of tapestry that is misleading and untrue.

This past week Nancy Pelosi said the Republicans have a culture of corruption going. She bases this on the attack on Tom Delay, R-Texas. I remember the administration of William Clinton. Every day there was a scandal, financial to sexual. When President Clinton appointed Justice Ginsberg, she stated she wanted prostitution to become legal and the age of consent to be lowered to 12. The Democrats were silent and she was hailed as a heroine.

But, when President Bush nominated Judge Roberts, he was villianified by the liberals because he was Bush's nominee.

In 1996, Clinton sold the red Chinese missile technology. In return Clinton received a $400,000 campaign donation.

The Democrats claimed this was 25 years old and outdated technology. But, the red Chinese were 50 years behind us, now they're 25 years behind. We remember the sex scandals. The Democrats defended clinton. In the last hours of the Clinton administration, pardons were sold. But, the liberal saw no wrong in what Clinton did.

Should we laugh when we read what Nancy Pelosi said, "a culture of corruption"? Congressman Bart Stupak has his orders: attack, attack, attack. He offers no answers or solutions.

The liberal goal is to win back the presidency and Congress. Then, inder the cronation of Hillary Clinton or John Kerry, they will push their agenda for America: legalize gay marriage and N.A.M.B.L.A, raise taxes and do away with all metion of God in America.

Now, Daniel Tomaski attacks Mr. Schoolcraft's column. This column was based on facts not drivel. You probably feel dumber because your brain and your common sense are not together.

Matthew L. Wright
Otsego Lake Township


ok have at it. yes, this guy IS for real!
I'm especially interested if whether or not any of the chinese and ginsberg allegations are true, otherwise i can easily smoke this guy with my Flaming Pen of Justice.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:20 PM
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1. this person needs help with grammar
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 03:22 PM by Skittles
he needs to learn how to use commas and semi-colons. It wouldn't help much with his message, however, which is just plain FOX-induced drivel.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:45 PM
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2. OMFG - he was villianified
That sounds fuckin painful.:rofl:
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:01 PM
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3. yeah
that must be something they do to you on Fox Newz.
:crazy:
I'm gonna feel kinda bad schooling this guy, he can't write worth a shyte.
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:15 PM
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9. Sure does!
:rofl:
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DrRang Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:11 PM
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4. I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone in Clinton's administration
was ever indicted, as opposed, say, to the Reagan and Nixon administrations.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:32 PM
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5. The most classic op-ed I saw.
Was saying how the media must be biased towards the "left wing" because (this long list of right wing pundits in the media) says so.

So all you have to do is something like this:

Matthew Right is correct that Nancy Pelosi bases her claim that there is a Culture of Corruption on Tom Delay's alleged illegal campaign financing.

And Frist's not-so blind trust.

And a Whitehouse that outs our own CIA agents.

And Jack Abramoff's connection to a mob hit.

And...

...and just keep piling it on. Try to strike up a rythm. You don't even have to attach charges to many of the names... just shoot names out one after the other (make sure each one Googles to their legal troubles, though.)

The best defense is a good offense. Don't try to defend against the ridiculous stuff like NAMBLA. Fight fire with fire.

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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:42 PM
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6. the nambla thing made me spit out my coffee this morning
this guy has GOT to be a pedophile that preys on boys, hence the gay marriage reference....

i just might have to check the sex offender registry....
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:46 PM
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7. Even you said it. He's a dead ender. Leave him in your dust.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 04:51 PM by Bernardo de La Paz
The best approach to koolade drinkers is to laugh and say "You fell for that BS? You think that BS is an issue given everything happening now?"

Or don't say anything. If they print it with all his spelling and grammar and logic and fact errors, it will be self-refuting.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:47 PM
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15. Yep. People will naturally back away from some of these nuts. eom
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:15 PM
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8. I would be sure to mention
how GW is using the USA for collateral on the loans he gets from China to build bridges to nowhere, so he can give Paris Hilton a taxbreak.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:10 PM
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10. "red Chinese?"
Oh my. 50's redux. "25 years behind us? lets see, that would be, 1980? Internet was just a gleam in the militaries eye, spread to universities, with small commadore 64 message boards for most of the rest of us to play with. Let him have it dear. Both barrels. I can't recall the details of that "selling military technology" to China, so I'm not much help, but I believe it was pretty well spun bullshit. Use your flaming pen as a teaching tool for those who can't or won't think for themselves.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:45 PM
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11. Here's how I would respond:
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 06:51 PM by Martin Eden
Matthew L. Wright's main argument in defense of the Bush administration's energy policy is to attack Bill Clinton. This is a common tactic, but it has no bearing on the practices and policies of the current president. The fact is that campaign contributions by oil companies have been rewarded with subsidies and incentives that will further enrich this already profitable industry. Meanwhile, nothing substantial is done to reduce our dependency on a dwindling resource that will become increasingly costly as emerging industrial nations like China increase demand.

Tom Delay's legal problems do not begin to scratch the surface of the impact that political cronyism and corporate lobbyists have on the health and safety of the American people. The consequences of appointing the unqualified Michael Browne to run the Federal Emergency Management Agency were illustrated in the wake of hurricane Katrina, but even more egregious are the appointments of lobbyists for polluting industries to federal agencies that were created to protect the environment. President Bush put a utility lobbyist in charge of the air division of the Environmental Protection Agency. As head of Superfund,he appointed a woman whose last job was teaching corporate polluters how to evade Superfund regulations, and second in command of EPA is a Monsanto lobbyist.

When Bush took office he ordered 75 lawsuits to be dropped against coal burning power plants that had been in violation of the Clean Air Act. Then he let the industry, which gave millions of dollars to his election campaign, rewrite the New Source Rule that had required them to clean up emissions that are causing levels of mercury high enough in millions of women of child-bearing age to cause a wide range of birth defects. The top three enforcers of environmental regulations at the EPA, who had served since the Reagan administration, quit in protest.

The influence of corporate lobbying in our government is a fundamental conflict of interest that subverts our democratic institutions, forestalls a sensible energy policy, and threatens the health of our families. Democratic politicians are not immune to such influence, but they have consistently defended the environment and advocted renewable, clean energy. Under the Bush administration, big oil and polluting industries get to write national policy.

Letter writer Matthew L. Wright defends this administration by attacking the previous one, because the practices and policies of the Bush administration are simply indefensible.
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:56 PM
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12. great response
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 06:58 PM by leftupnorth
fortunately there was a letter right next to this illustrating the negative effect of corporate interest writtenby the vice chair of my local Dem party

Letter writer Matthew L. Wright defends this administration by attacking the previous one, because the practices and policies of the Bush administration are simply indefensible.

i LOVE that, can i steal it?

edit for clarity
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:41 PM
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14. By all means
Go for it!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:00 PM
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13. Legalizing NAMBLA?
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 08:02 PM by Arkana
How can you legalize an organization? And WTF is "cronation"?

"You probably feel dumber because your brain and your common sense are not together."

Well, guess what, "sir"? All your base are belong to me! I set you up the bomb!
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 10:13 PM
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16. bwhahahahah
:rofl:
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