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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 12:42 PM
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U.S. high horse now riderless
http://www.timesstar.com/Stories/0,1413,125~1511~1524257,00.html

Jay BOOKMAN
U.S. high horse now riderless

SOME people are born humble. Others have humility thrust upon them.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, for example, was asked in a recent interview whether he still had faith in prewar intelligence claiming a link between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

"I think that the, the, information we had over a period of time that I cited that the intelligence community gave to me and I read as opposed to ad-libbing was correct. It, it, it was carefully stated ..."

Talk about carefully stated.

It's telling to see the bantam rooster of the Bush administration turn so halting and defensive, insisting that, hey, he had only been reading what somebody else handed him. Then again, there's a lot of that going around these days.

In fact, if Vietnam was the place where America lost her innocence, Iraq may be the place where we lose our arrogance.

The once-triumphant Richard Perle has gone underground. The sublimely smug William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and stalwart champion of empire, no longer looks as though he just swallowed a canary. Crow is more like it. And we've heard more from Saddam Hussein in recent weeks than from Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.

Maybe because Saddam, unlike Wolfowitz, has a plan that's actually working.

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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 12:49 PM
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1. I reject the notion of a "US high horse" ever existing
Look at Mark Twain's writings and you'll see why I say this.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 02:03 PM
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7. Well, with the Bushistas, not the whole horse ...
just the rear end.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 12:54 PM
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2. This is a killer line...
we've heard more from Saddam Hussein in recent weeks than from Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.

Maybe because Saddam, unlike Wolfowitz, has a plan that's actually working.


Ouch! But it's true.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:03 PM
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4. LS - oh yeah, the BEST line. This is a must-read.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:10 PM
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5. I agree
that line says it all.

And when they do say anything, it's either trash-talking, or excuse-making.

Today on NPR, Juan Williams asked Paul Bremer a very good and very obvious follow-up question, after Bremer said he thought Hussein was still alive and in Iraq. Williams asked "But why can't we find him, if we control the country?" Forgive me for not remembering what Bremer's "answer" was.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:19 PM
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6. were you
too busy laughing?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 09:19 AM
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10. Bremer's answer?
Words to the effect of "Homina homina homina... bduh... abba abba eef," no doubt.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 02:05 PM
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8. If this administration get reselected in 2004, ...
Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein never will conspire together -- they'll be too busy fighting against each other for world domination.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:03 PM
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3. Brilliant article. This Iraq debacle occurred because of these
thugs and their arrogance.

How many troops have to die Mr. Bush? How many? And for what?

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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 09:11 AM
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9. Cocoa
Please note DU's rules about posting copyrighted material--a maximum of four paragraphs may be excepted.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#civility

Thanks,

Dirk - DU Moderator
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