The Month of Apple Bugs Has Compleated

[Nomad559]

A pair of security researchers has picked January 2007 as the starting point for a month-long project in which each passing day will feature a previously undocumented security hole in Apple's OS X operating system or in Apple applications that run on top of it.

You can view the full list of vulnerabilities HERE

Currently there are 10149 vulnerabilities that have affected OS X

10149 Secunia Security Advisories For OS X

5818 Secunia Security Advisories For Linux

866 Secunia Security Advisories For Windows

The Good News For Mac Users Is That Nobody Cares To Target An Operating System That Has less Than 3% Of The Worldwide Market.

Rush Limbaugh says Mac OS X Tiger Rocks

:)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Thank god someone did this.

I'm sick of hearing about how Windows is crap because it has "so many security holes! MAC RULES!!"

Yeah, well, with nearly 12 times as many holes as Windows, Macs must be ultra-mega crap now, by that logic.

[ocean girl]

2. Mac does rule, IMHO

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. Wouldn't be the first time total crap ruled, I suppose.

We do have Bush in charge. :D

[emulatorloo]

10. I think Bush being in charge is more parallel to Windows high market share

Some days you guys are going to realize that Microsoft is the Bushco/GOP of the computer world!

Nasty, full of sneer and smear, and way more incompentent that it makes itself out to be.

[Sherman A1]

9. Agreed

The old adage is...... "Windows 98 = Macintosh 87"...... Now Vista gets just a tiny bit closer to OS X.......



Yawn.....

[wakeme2008]

5. Wrong only 95 between 2003 -2007

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. But have they looked as vigorously as in the past as they did now?

It doesn't seem that way.

[wakeme2008]

4. Try going to the site for the real number what you list is BS

http://secunia.com/graph/?type=adv&period=all&prod=96

95 from 2003-2007

[Nomad559]

29. Hey Wakeme

Wake up :hi: ALL of the Security vulnerabilities have an affect on the Operating system, this Is why Apple and the other vendors Issue patches for the vulnerabilities, Is that not true.

:)

[wakeme2008]

30. Only 97 on OS X from 2003-2007 per the site you pointed to.

I am awake on OS.

[Nomad559]

31. What part of

"ALL of the Security vulnerabilities have an affect on the Operating system" did you not understand.

:)

[TommyO]

39. The search you're using is faulty

and provides hits for software that don't even run on a Mac.

ActivePost Standard 3.x is one of the items that show up in your search - it's included because of the "os" in "Post" and the "x" at the end. Here is a brief description of what ActivePost Standard is: "ActivePost Standard is an instant messenger system for Microsoft Windows operating systems." OOPS, this vulnerability is really a Windows vulnerability given your criteria.

[meegbear]

6. Great post!

As a home Mac user, I always wondering when someone's gonna hit us. With that many holes, it looks like sooner than later.

[C_U_L8R]

8. These stats are BS

and who cares what Rush Limbaugh says.

What's your point in spreading false news?

[emulatorloo]

11. 1. Fear and Smear. 2. per Rush, even a stopped clock is right twice a day EOM

[Nomad559]

12. These stats are BS

Notice how he offers no proof to backup his accusation, Bill O'Reilly Would Be Proud Of You.

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who cares what Rush Limbaugh says

Listen to the audio of Rush Limbaugh, and then "honesty" try to convince anybody on this forum that his smug (Cult of Apple) attitude does not mirror that of others here on DU.

:)

[emulatorloo]

14. President Gore is on the Apple Board of Directors --how smug is he?

As to the stats, somebody posted a link above. (ON EDIT: SEE POST 4 above)

I have seen these kinds of nonsense stats before. Usually in a day or so we find out they have been distorted or aren't true in the first place.

It is a lot like what I see Karl Rove and the Right Wind Echo Machine Do. They put out some story about a Democrat and how horrible he/she is. Then a few days later we find out it is a distortion or untrue etc.

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Nomad559. I gotta be honest with you as a Mac user (and I use windows too). While there are some mac users that are smug, I have suffered endless arrogance from some PC users, foolish administrators, and clueless but know-it-all people speading thier prejudiced ignorance about the Mac platform over and over again. I have seen with my own eyes PC users visciously verbally attack mac users in meetings because they are"too ignorant to use a PC", all the while spreading nonsense and FUD about Mac "incompatibility" etc. There is a real UGLY ATTITUDE among some PC users of needing to force all others to conform, at least from what I have experienced over the last 20 years. I have seen way more meaness and vitriol from angry PC users who somehow want to "dominate" mac users.

Please note that I am saying "some" PC users and am not gerenalizing.

The best parellel I can come up with are the last few years of Republicanism. They had it all -- control, the presidency, the legislative branch, etc. Yet some (not all) were angrily trying to destroy anyone who professed to be a Democrat. Why? They had it all -- why did they feel a need to humiliate those in the minority?

Now computers are just tools. It is my opinion that most people would be happier using a Mac than a Windows machine. I am not obnoxious about this. When asked I am happy to show people why I think this is true. I use windows too -- they are both just tools.

[Nomad559]

15. Where are these Windows

users on "DU" that have visciously verbally attack Mac users?

I don't see It, but can the same be said for the Mac users here on DU? ... No, I see It every day here on DU.

This thread Is only one of many
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2668028#2668195

:)

[emulatorloo]

19. That's cuz everybody on DU is nice!

Don't know I haven't done a scientific study. I was speaking more from real world experience and non-DU internet flamefests.

That does look like a nasty thread.

(At any rate I do understand your frustration when somebody asks for help w a PC problem and you get a few trolls dropping in with the useless "Get A Mac" post -- but like all trolls, just ignore them)

[onehandle]

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[emulatorloo]

13. Why don't you just buy a Mac and get it over already.

It is clear you want one.

This site tracks deals:

http://www.lowendmac.com/deals.shtml


Most people would be much happier using a Mac than a Windows machine if there wasn't so much FUD spread around.

Windows OS computers and Mac OS computers are both tools. I use both, I prefer my Mac. Using Windows feels like using a pair of plyers to hammer in a nail. Using Mac OS feels like using a hammer to hammer in a nail, IMHO.

Anyway, when you get your mac, let us know.

[Nomad559]

16. Are you being smug?

I had the Intel version of Mac 10.4.5 on one of my systems, I liked It, but was not very Impressed with the speed of It.

:)

[emulatorloo]

18. probably because you were running it on an AMD Sempron wih an unaccelerated Radeon!

:)

Smug? Hell no, I love all my computers, even my Sempron :toast:

[Nomad559]

20. It was ALL spin

And you just proved It

Nomad559. I gotta be honest with you as a Mac user (and I use windows too). While there are some mac users that are smug, I have suffered endless arrogance from some PC users, foolish administrators, and clueless but know-it-all people speading thier prejudiced ignorance about the Mac platform over and over again. I have seen with my own eyes PC users visciously verbally attack mac users in meetings because they are"too ignorant to use a PC", all the while spreading nonsense and FUD about Mac "incompatibility" etc. There is a real UGLY ATTITUDE among some PC users of needing to force all others to conform, at least from what I have experienced over the last 20 years. I have seen way more meaness and vitriol from angry PC users who somehow want to "dominate" mac users.

:)

[emulatorloo]

21. No, it all happened.

As to the "proof" maybe my sense of humor was not coming thru

(although ON EDIT I do think I would be hesitant about evaluating an OS's performance based on a hacked copy downloaded from P2P and run on hardware that isn't supported. . .Kinda like if somebody said windows was bad based on running it on a G4 mac under Virtual PC)

Anyway -- have a nice day! I have to log off of DU and do some work!

[Nomad559]

22. Have you seen It here on DU?

As I said In an earlier post, I only see Mac users viciously attacking Non-Mac users here on DU.

:)

[emulatorloo]

23. I think I have seem more Anti-Mac threads started by a PC user

than I have seen Anti-Windows threads started by Mac users. That is my general impression.

I have mentioned that I have seen some Mac users butt into PC troubleshooting threads and I don't like that.

[Nomad559]

26. Your General Impression Is Way Off

I have a challenge for you.

Why don't you post ALL of those Anti-Mac threads you have seen here on DU, and I will post ALL of the Anti-Microsoft threads that have been posted here on DU.

I only have one request, give me a couple of days to find ALL of the Anti-Windows threads.

It should only take you a few minutes to find All of the Anti-Mac threads here on DU.

:evilgrin:

[emulatorloo]

27. Anti-Microsoft threads are not the same thing as Anti-Windows threads

Plenty of DU'ers go after Microsoft for their business practices (for good reason, I think), both PC and Mac users alike (and lets not forget the Linux users!)

I will declare you the winner by default, because I just don't have time to take your challenge! :patriot:

[Nomad559]

28. And what about the business practices of Apple

Apple uses slave labor In China to build iPods, (iPhones) and computers.

Inside Apple's iPod factories
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14915&Page=1&pagePos=2

Apple approved sweat-shop labour
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32644
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Apple lobbied against state e-waste recycling legislation and continues to lobby against takeback bills.
http://www.computertakeback.com/bad_apple/bad_apple_biz.cfm
http://www.texasenvironment.org/ewaste_apple.cfm
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Employees offer mixed reactions to Apple corporate life
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=974

"There is a definite lack of emphasis on customers," said the employee, who holds a senior management position. The employee wrote that there is "a significant fear factor perpetuated of the CEO" by "empire building dinosaurs who operate in antiquated modes and only promote their favorites." The same employee said it's a company policy "not to take notes in meetings," which can make it "quite daunting" to try to operate under such "impossible circumstances."

Meanwhile, a product manager stationed at Apple's home-base in Cupertino sums up Apple as the average conservative company, which works its employees "to the bone" without enough compensation. "When I started it felt like Apple knew my name and what I did," the employee wrote, "but now am nothing more than employee XXX."
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Apple Inc. has donated more money to rePUGlicans
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1012686&view=contributions&session=2003

Buyblue Is In error - Donations are not from Apple Inc.
http://www.buyblue.org/node/251/view/summary
$78,250 to Democrats
$0 to Republicans

Donations are from these people
http://www.buyblue.org/node/251/view/information

Steven P. (Steve) Jobs
CEO and Director

Laurene Powell Jobs
Spouse of CEO

Timothy D. Cook
EVP, Worldwide Sales and Operations

Peter Oppenheimer
SVP and CFO

[Nomad559]

24. Could It be that

maybe the Mac OS X does run slower than Windows on the same hardware.


Microsoft Vista Faster on a Mac Pro Than Apple's Own OS X
http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/01/running_vista_o.html#more

Ironically, one of the fairest reviews of Microsoft's Vista comes from Pete and Leander over at Wired's Cult of Mac blog. They tell us what the Vista experience is like on a Mac Pro using Bootcamp, with much praise.

Vista really flies on this beast, and feels like it's faster than OS X - it boots faster, folders burst open and apps launch instantly...I'm especially delighted with Vista's "glass" Aero interface, which works in all its glory on this machine...The OS is dark and handsome. It's really quite exciting...Vista's icons are big and colorful, and frankly, a lot more logical and easy to read than some of OS X's, like the intelligible iWeb icon.

:)

[emulatorloo]

25. I haven't gotten or used vista yet. But I prefer Mac OS X over Windows XP

I haven't really thought about the speed of Windows XP vs OS X. Both of them seem "fast enough" to me.

[Nomad559]

17. Double post

:)

[Tyo]

32. Yawn

:boring:

As a longtime Mac user I find that I have to be at least as up on PCs as I do on my own system mainly to help my partner with his current PC, a 6-month-old laptop. I think that with this machine he has finally had his fill of Windows and will make the switch next time around. I know that there are horror stories on both sides, but at our house there is no contest. Mac has consistently proven to be more issue free and reliable.

[onehandle]

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[onehandle]

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[Nomad559]

37. See my edit above

Are you going to talk dirty to me again?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2668028#2668195

:rofl:

[Nomad559]

38. Why are you

removing your posts Earl?

:)