If voting machines owned by Diebold are ok, then why not let people

[Thickasabrick]

vote through the internet? Everybody gets a secret number or whatever and it would be as secure as filing your income tax online - which I have not heard any bad things about.

Sure would help turnout.

[RC]

1. NO ELECTRONIC voting! No way - No how!

None. Forget it. Internet voting would be no more secure than the so-called voting machines and easier to rig.
Filing your taxes in the Internet is reasonable secure because the government owns the servers involved.
Guess who would own the servers for Internet voting? That's right, the same people who own the voting machines now.

The only secure way to vote is hand counted paper and pen.

[Thickasabrick]

3. I agree with that. But some court has already upheld that it is ok

to do paperless. I also like the way that they do it in Washington State (I think), where everyone can mail their vote in. At least that leaves some kind of paper trail.

My point I guess, is that if it is going to be paperless, then why not make it so that more people can do it?

We have a real issue with people being able to stand in line for the long periods we experienced in 2008. There has to be some improvements made to our current system. If people have to wait in lines only to vote on a paperless machine that can easily be manipulated and corrupted, what is the difference?

[bertman]

4. Wasn't that ONE court ruling in Georgia?? Hardly a landmark national ruling. The fight

for every ballot being counted with a paper trail to verify the vote is one of THE MOST IMPORTANT issues facing Democrats, yet we hear nothing from the national leadership. Nothing.

And some people wonder why many Americans feel they have no real say in how Congress works.

[Thickasabrick]

6. Yes, but that was enough to start me thinking about this because

as you said, it is a big non-issue with people who are in charge. I would love to see voting receipts and people going to vote, but we need to have more polling places and actual receipts or people will lose more faith in the system and wonder why they are even bothering. I'm just trying to think of solutions around this problem so that more people have easier access to their right to vote.

[bemildred]

2. Voting is a sacred act.

Votes must be counted by human beings in public. Nothing else will do,

[zbdent]

5. what gets me is that I doubt anybody would deposit cash into an ATM

and not care that they didn't get a receipt ...

but the voting population was supposed to be content with voting without one?

Hell, you can't buy a candy bar from Wal-Mart without a 5 inch receipt and a request to fill out a survey ...

[Thickasabrick]

7. Word!! nt

[RC]

8. And how are they going to match the receipt to your actual vote after the fact?

Most of them will end up in the trash receptacle by the door anyway.

[yurbud]

9. it's odd that the same company that can make ATMs that work most of the time

also makes voting machines that have so many "glitches" especially ones that tend to favor establishment candidates.