When women bosses discriminate against men

[Jaundice James]

While the difference in pricing is certainly wrong, and a relatively easy thing conquer with some simple political marketing. MY rant isn’t about health insurance costing more for women...

...This woman admits, without a hint of shame, that she employs almost entirely women, and then has the audacity to complain that they’re being discriminated against in health insurance pricing?...

...Choosing sides just won’t do. I have worked for and with many business women who epitomize progressive values – and even better – displayed true objectivity in management, while being effective in their roles...

http://jaundicejames.com/2009/10/30/when-women-bosses-discriminate-against-men/

[Demeter]

1. The Sweet Young Thing Who Quails at Giving Bed Baths to An Old Man

who is by the way perfectly capable of bathing himself, will gladly give up her pervert client to a male....what makes you think men are banging on the doors to do these shit jobs?

I work in this field, and know why there are no men. It's not because men don't get hired. It's because men would rather sleep in cars or homeless shelters than do this kind of scut work. And the fact that this firm offers any health insurance at all is to be commended. Most use the independent contractor dodge to avoid any responsibility to the employee.

[OhioBlue]

3. Bingo - I agree. n/t

[Warpy]

4. A few men will do it

but mostly because they're putting themselves through nursing school. I've worked with them doing just that kind of miserable scut work in nursing homes.

However, they're a tiny minority of applicants, let alone actual staff, and the complaint about discrimination against largely female staff in health insurance costs is an appropriate one. The discrimination exists and it is unfair.

[greennina]

5. You're right men are lazy...

but the idea that it is a problem for a woman to discriminate against men is ridiculous. One injustice doesn't mean crap compared to the number of men every single day that screw-over women in the work-place.

[OhioBlue]

2. I call BS

unless you can point to me where she discriminates. I'll admit - I read both articles pretty quickly... but nowhere did I find it say she discriminates against men. She runs a home health care business? correct? And she employs mostly females... That isn't discrimination.. that is just a fact.. most home health care workers are women - not because of discrimination because that is who applies for the jobs, who has had training, etc.

[Igel]

9. I tend to agree with you.

You have to look at the applicant pool, and if anything's being done to skew the applicant pool.

Then again, I accepted this as reasonable back in the mid '90s when I was the grad rep on an academic committee. The administration was up in arms because a department had no women in it, and during their last search for a faculty member had only interviewed one woman--and failed to hire her. The dept. responded with a blizzard of numbers: The number of PhDs granted that year to women vs. men, the number of PhDs granted 15 years previous to women vs. men, the number of applications they'd received and the female/male breakdown of them, what they had done to specifically solicit women's applications (while doing nothing to solicit men's applications), the overall male/female breakdown in the field both in academia and among research institutions and in private industry. With 10 faculty members, they said they expected to have something like .3 or .4 of a woman in the depart--in other words, 0 women is precisely what rounding would get you, and that's before taking into account (a) competition from other, private schools and (b) the deficiency of similarly qualified women for the position they were filling.

The university was unswayed. The assumption was that if your applicant pool is female-poor that you're doing something wrong. It didn't matter that they had hired 50% of the women that applied, and she had been hired elsewhere before they could make an offer.

Generally, I've found that in hiring people only argue that you have to consider the applicant pool when there's a claim that whites or men aren't being hired. Otherwise, you're expected to ignore the applicant pool and feel guilty. It's for the birds--the argument is valid in both situations, assuming that you're not doing something, as I said, to skew the pool.

[DavidDvorkin]

6. And the DU Bitterness Brigade goes instantly on the attack

What a surprise.

[Demeter]

7. Reality IS Bitter, for Those Who Walk in a Dreamworld, Friend

[nightrain]

8. how is the owner's comment discriminatory ag men for you? sounds like an accurate observation

about the built-in higher insurance costs for women to me..