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Violence has its place in any movement, but it must be looked at by the Vast Majority of Americans as something that HAD to be done. To get to that point we MUST get the vast majority of Americans to SUPPORT what the people occupying Wall Street are "fighting" for (Fighting in the sense they are trying to do a change, not in any act of violence).
First we must see how violence in any movement for change happens. Violence in the sense of suppressing dissent is always an option of any ruling elite. The majority of Americans will support such violence suppression if the ruling elite can show it is needed for the common good. AS a movement builds up support among the American People the Ruling elite will do all it can suppress it, including increasing the use of violence to suppress the movement. The movement must continued to be non-violent during this time period to show it is NOT for some radical over throw of Society but for peaceful reform of society. Yes, violence must be meet with non-violence during that time period, which we are only entering at the present time.
The problem for the ruling elite is when the vast majority of Americans decide that the change being advocated by the movement is needed, change that is opposed by the Ruling Elite. This situation leads to even more use of violence by the Ruling Elite to stay in charge and present the proposed change. When that happens and the vast majority of the American People REJECT that use of force by the Ruling elites for the vast majority of Americans want the change, then and only then can any act of violence do any good. This is for the simple reason that any change MUST have the support of the vast Majority of American People and any act NOT supported by the Vast Majority of American people is doomed to fail. Thus only when the vast majority of the American people support the movement AND the reason the change is NOT being done is do to the violence being ordered by the Ruling Elites, then and only then can the act of violence do any good (i.e. chase away the thugs hired to keep the ruling elite in power and get the change the vast majority of the American People want).
Now, in most cases BEFORE any movement reaches that point, the Politicians of the US accept that change and implants what is being demanded. Thus in most cases no time comes up for when violence does any good.
On the other hand (And Karl Marx made this observation) when a ruling elite sees themselves losing control, they revert to violence themselves to stay in power. When this occurs the time to use violence is close, but even then you want to make it clear that the act of doing violence is being FORCED upon you by the ruling elites. Thus even in such times you have to hold PEACEFUL meetings and see them attacked by thugs (the best name for whoever is hired to do the work, these may be the Police, may be the Army, but also may be private thugs hired do to the increasing unreliability of the Police and Army to do such acts of Violence when such acts no longer is supported by the majority of Americans).
Violence is only called for when everything else has been tried and the ruling elite use of violence is the only thing stopping change from occurring does any act of violence does any good (again assuming the vast majority of American people support the change).
My point is violence has its place, but this movement is no where near any time when it can do any good. We have to "fight" (in a peaceful manner) to show we want change and what change we want, but this has to be peaceful in the sense that the movement can NOT be the side that starts any violence. We have to force the other side (Wall Street) to force the issue, do they accept the change or do they declare war on us? If they declare war on us, then and only then can violence do any good. We also have to understand and accept that the Declaration of War will NOT be done publicly, but will be clear to all as the amount of violence increases. Thus only after Wall Street has made it clear it prefers us dead to agreeing to change will the majority of Americans see Wall Street as it is, and support the violence needed to finished the war declared by Wall Street.
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