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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:10 PM
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O'Neill shares Pre 911 Iraq Planning - Danes Find 10 yr Old Possible WMD?
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 04:16 PM by cthrumatrix
Guess which story will get the lead in our press?

The plausible story of Danish soldiers finding 10 yr old buried missles (with some liquid) when there are about 10 soldiers in country vs. the US soldiers and weapons inspectors seems quite "coincidental" vs. Mr. O'Neill's bombshell that Iraq was Planned Pre-911.


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Danes find suspicious Iraqi shells
Saturday, January 10, 2004 Posted: 11:41 AM EST (1641 GMT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Danish troops have found suspicious mortar shells in southern Iraq and officials are checking to see if they are chemical weapons, according to Coalition officials.

Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, a U.S. Army spokesman, said Saturday 30 to 40 120mm mortars containing liquid were discovered south of Al-Amara, north of Basra.

The shells are being examined, and Kimmitt said it is suspected that the ordnance could be left over from the Iran-Iraq war in the mid-1980s.

"Most were wrapped in plastic bags, and some were leaking," he added.

(and on yahoo -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/iraq_chemicals_dc)
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I think they saved a "trump card" to diffuse Mr. O'Niell's truth.

The debate over these 36 shells being 10yrs old and worthless is irrelevant....people will "cling to something".


Am I jumping to conclusions? Is this another same day media timed release?

I guess we'll see when the news is played to the sheeple.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:14 PM
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1. If they say " Made in USA " we will never hear about it.
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:17 PM
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2. Uhm, they are not /missiles/
They are mortar shells; these things have a range of at most a few kms, IIRC, and are considerably less sophisticated (a mortar launcher is roughly a tube with a rod in it). Now, the reason I am nitpicking is because I think mistakes like this are part of how stories get spinned; since the discussions takes take a few hopes from an illegal and immoral short-range weapon to calling it a missile, and once one hears a missile + chemical warhead, one thinks WMD, which of course this is not.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:19 PM
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3. has faux run with it yet?
Like they did with the faux saddam/9/11 conncetion a short while back?
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:33 PM
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4. Mortar shells that have been buried for 10 years?
LOL! You've got to be kidding me! This is the "threat" we were so worried about? ROFLMAO!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:58 PM
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5. Get ready--mass grave to be 'discovered' next week
set your watches :eyes:
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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:08 PM
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6. They already discovered mass graves in Iraq quite some time
ago, and in above ground warehouses stacked high. I remember the US spent quite a bit of time helping id them for the locals with relatives who disappeared over the years.

However,this small number of shells is a leftover from when he had alot more, no smoking gun by any means.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:39 PM
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7. mass graves - via Saddam - with photos - US invasion killed mass
graves have gotten Reuters folks shot as they try to photograph.

It is hard to control te news reporting.

Thank god our US news media takes orders so well.
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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:52 PM
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8. Link?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:56 PM
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9. Above-ground warehouses filled with stacked bodies? I missed that one.
Any links?
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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:04 PM
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10. Big story, do a google search yourself-
As any single source I quote will be summarily dismissed.

Bodies of Iranians from the Iran/Iraq war, bodies with bullet holes in the skulls, boxes full of long disappeared Iraqi citizens Id cards.

I can't seem to find anything about US soldiers making mass graves, then shooting AP reporters. Just want to find out if it's true, or BS.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:14 PM
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12. I did and wasn't satisfied with my results. What convinced you?
Obviously you have more than one source, yes?

Link away!

PS~ WTF does this ridiculous statement mean: "can't seem to find anything about US soldiers making mass graves, then shooting AP reporters. Just want to find out if it's true, or BS.?
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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:20 PM
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14. Don't know what the hositility is about, just wondering if
papau's statement about reporters getting shot at trying to photograph "US made" mass graves.

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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:23 PM
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15. Here's one on mass graves for starters.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 12:04 AM
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16. "Above ground"? That's all I was asking.
The article makes no mention of that.

That was my initial question. You said: "hey already discovered mass graves in Iraq quite some time ago, and in above ground warehouses stacked high."

That's all that I was asking about. You made a statement about warehouses, I questioned that because I'd never heard that claim before, is that ok?

The other AP reporter nonsense is excused, you were referring to another post. OTH we all knew that the Baath Regime dealt with civil conflict, and uprisings that we encouraged but didn't help, so what does this matter in the debate on the illegal invasion of Iraq?

Bush is a big humanitarian now?
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Snappy Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:06 PM
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11. WMDs
Don't watch Fox News. Are they reporting WMDs found?

The case is building about pre- 911 pans for pre-emptivestike on Iraq.and here is some more documentation.

In September 2000, the PNAC updated and refined Cheney's original version into a new report entitled: "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources for a New Century" calling for unprecedented hikes in military spending, American military bases in Central Asia and Middle East, toppling of non-complying regimes, abrogation of international treaties, control of the world's energy sources, militarization of outer space, total control of cyberspace, and the willingness to use nuclear weapons to achieve "American" goals.

This plan by the neo-conservative or neo-con think tank, PNAC, shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power and says the U.S. for decades has sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security, revealing that a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure a regime change was planned even before Bush took power in January, 2001. The lengthy blueprint for U.S. global domination can be accessed at http://cryptome.org/rad.htm.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:15 PM
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13. Did you mean to respond to me?
I was just asking about claims of un-permitted above-ground mortuaries.
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