Conservative "base" royally steamed at *--check out these FR posts

[mistertrickster]

Hi, ConservaChick--

Love that name, by the way. No, I am no "loony lefty". I'm further to the right than the President, that is for certain. I hate the left as much as you seem to, but I don't fear them. I fear only those who promise one thing and give us another. Both parties have been co=opted by greed and special interests. I'm as "straight arrow" as you are.

But, unlike you and the RINOs, I don't want 4 more years of Bush. I was fooled into voting for him the last time 'round because I didn't want to see Gore in The White House. John Kerry does not scare me like Gore did.

Let me put it to you this way. Let's say you're correct in your judgment and Bush wins another 4 years. Do you know what we just went through.75 years of horrible recession? Do you want that repeated? I don't. And that's just economics. How about Iraq? Do you want our boys there year after deadly year? Not I. We need them on our Southern Border, not in Iraq. Kerry is the man to bring our boys home. We got Saddam, and we destroyed his Party and killed his sons. We have other roads to walk. Iraq will never be a democracy--it's like Lebanon was in '83 when our boys were blown up there--a lawless, feudal toilet bowl. Bush will keep our boys there for years. How about granting amnesty for millions of illegals? The country is solidly against this. It will bring in millions more. That is NOT what I want for this country. As Michael Savage says, "borders, language, culture". What we have left of it, we must preserve or we'll become a Third World nation. Laugh? I wouldn't laugh. Look at Canada, Britain...two formerly great countries that let in too many people who don't share their values or culture. Now, they are run down Socialist countries going the way of France and others. That is NOT what I want for my country.

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I would never and could never vote for a democrat. If you do, you are abandoning the principles that we stand for. Voting for a third party is not to make the third party win, but to make the GOP lose the presidential election, coax reluctant conservatives to register a protest vote in the meantime keeping the majority in congress and being able to point at this and elect a proper GOP candidate in 2008 against whichever of these idiots wins. Let's face it, there is only one (ok, maybe two) Clinton. None of these guys is him.
Let me tell you. I am an Army veteran and lifelong GOP voter. I have a Bush/Cheney sweatshirt from the last campaign and my "Victory 2000" card from the National Committee. I donated some of my meager money to Bush's campaign and cried on election night when I thought that the days of shame were over. Bush is not who I thought he was. The base is getting taken for granted. There is only one way that the average Joe can protest and make politicians hear us and that is to vote against them on election day.

18 posted on 01/22/2004 9:33:33 AM PST by MannyP
<http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-campaign2002/1062297/posts>

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Intra-party fratricide: it's not just for Democrats anymore . . .

[Skittles]

1. Gawd, that reply

admitting he was fooled by Bush/Cheney - I hope it catches on but Dear God, the price that has been paid.

[Loonman]

2. A Freeper supporting Kerry....

I bet JimRob had a coronary.

[Dr.Phool]

3. WOW

A 75 year recession? Where was I?:party:

I know we used to drink a lot on the Railroad, but I don't think i woulda missed that for 31 years.:crazy:

[Native]

5. .75

[pocoloco]

4. "Voting for a third party is not to make the third party win, but to

make the GOP lose the presidential election"

taking lessons from nader?? It works!! LOL

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. Maybe we're at the beginning of a recalibration of the parties

and, possibly, entrance into a true three party - or more - system.

Seems a lot of people are just plain disgusted with both parties for selling out to corporations, special interests, and not listening so much to the people of the country.

These freeps' posts could portend good things!

(though I have to admit it's sad when you doh't like a president not because you think his hatred of others is wrong, but because he's focusing it in the wrong direction. But I applaud that first guy for realizing that Shrub will continue to get our troops killed in Iraq).

[KissMyAsscroft]

7. Wow, you can hear those last two brain cells knocking together.

I like the part about Michael Savage wanting to "protect our culture"

He always struck me as a very cultured man...LOL!

[Loonman]

8. Bush has a lot of people cheesed off about the spending

Overall mishandling of the economy, Amnesty, etcetera.

[K8-EEE]

9. They Are PISSED In AZ Over The Border Issue

I heard a self-described GOP say, "does he think we're stupid? Legalize the workers and we go from 10 million to 80 million of them overnight, and the employers have no incentive to offer high paying jobs."

[PaDUer]

10. WOW..there's more

comments..looks like they're finally seeing the light, a little too late.

[jmags]

11. There are about 5 conservatives

that I discuss politics with alot that have recently declared they will not be voting for Bush, and as long as Dean is not the nominee, will be voting Democratic. If you continue to discuss issues with moderates in an engaging way, they will eventually realize that the way the Bush admin has been a failure. These people that I've talked to are probably not going to become loyal democrats now, but they do recongnize that the GOP is not exactly accomplishing a whole lot now.
So continue to talk, do not use petty insults or immaturity, just drill home the issues - because our side is right. If you get people to focus on where Bush violates liberal and conservative thought, ie deficits, Iraq, even the environment - where many Republicans do not agree with Bush once they actually find out what he's doing - you will eventually get a few to see the light.
There was a record crowd at the Iowa caucuses, and I'm sure that trend will continue into November '04. Democrats across the nation want Bush out, and many Republicans have their doubts over what Bush is doing. Avoid polarizing issues, but keep talking to everyone you know.