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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 07:57 PM
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Rangel to talk to Koffi Annan tonight!!! Castro is next
They are saying the Haiti business is against international law. Maxine Waters and others are saying this is illegal. Maxinne waters Castro NEXT
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 07:58 PM
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1. PLEASE let this get into the media! Please let there be a UN investigation
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:02 PM
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3. I hope that happens too.
God help us.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:00 PM
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2. Why would Castro be next?
The misery in Haiti is a capitalist failure. Cuba offers a stark contrast to letting the World Bank and the U.S. military alternately run your country.

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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:13 PM
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11. Correct... Cuba is a good example to other countries.
It scares the U.S. that other nations might look to Cuba as a model to follow. It shows that Socialism methods can be faster and more effective than capitalist methods. For example, despite our embargo Cuba has been able to give 100% of its citizens healthcare that is as good as the healthcare many of us receive in the U.S.

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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:22 PM
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14. Ummm
Have you been to Cuba?? Gee they have good heath care but no food & no much else why do you think so many Cubans try and get here ant way possible?y
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:25 PM
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15. Gee... do you think our EMBARGO has anything to do with that?
The U.S. will not allow trade with Cuba and discourages other nations from doing the same.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:33 PM
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17. Ummm, I have been to Cuba, and its nothing like your description
Cubans are not starving. 100% literacy etc. NOTHING like Haiti.


Learn from Cuba
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/learn.htm
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:03 PM
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4. This incident must have international independent inquiry.
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 08:03 PM by ezmojason
UN must speak out for democracy and rule of law in Haiti.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:04 PM
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6. Forget Haiti, what about us?
The UN needs to do something. Anything. Do you think this group of criminals is willing to pull out of the UN or throw the UN out of the US? I think that anything is possible now.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:05 PM
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7. the trouble is
the US military industrial complex power trumps the UN power and there is not much concrete action anyone can do about it.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:12 PM
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10. Agreed. But we need something, anything.
A U.N. resolution condemning this action, even it is only empty words, would still be better than nothing. Of course, the U.S. would veto it, and as Chomsky says, "A U.S. veto is a veto from history." :mad: :grr:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:04 PM
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5. Why would Castro be next? Here's why--OIL
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 08:30 PM by GreenArrow
Note last paragraph of following article:

http://havanajournal.com/business_comments/P1089_0_4_0 /

"The president of Halliburton Co.'s energy services unit, John Gibson, said two weeks ago in an address to employees the future of oil exploration lay in developing countries, and in those three competitors had a jump start over U.S companies."

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dax Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:05 PM
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8. Leaders of the paras were trained by US....
Watch how quickly the violence stops... all they have to do is quit paying them, everything calms down and Bush gets to claim a bloodless victory as how powerful US is now that the world knows we shoot first and ask questions later...maybe he will fly over there to shake the new fascist butcher's hand., Aristide came from a popular movement and was co-opted by the IMF to start selling off public services and redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich, just like we do here and he was despised only because he went along with it, against his interests for sure but how else do you deal with Crime families, I mean, governments.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:06 PM
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9. The cat is out of the bag now
They are making no attempt to disguise their criminality anymore. Not even Daddy and St. Ronnie flouted international law like this. It's time for the U.N. to step in.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:14 PM
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12. Step into what?
We're seeing it now in full flower -- the world of might makes right, where the only law is power. Who can fight them, who can control them?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:28 PM
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16. How to stop us, US?
Shut off the flow of oil. Commandeer the tankers.
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:19 PM
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13. Good
Kennedy should have done that 41 years ago
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