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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:53 AM
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Can you name one thing Bush has told the truth about?
This question is open to Repub lurkers also. I do not wish to hear about subjective terms such as honor and integrity because those are lies also. But, scratching my head, I think of all the lies told about Iraq, about the economy, about jobs, about Medicare, etc., and I cannot think of one time that we were told the truth about even one subject? Perhaps someone can help with this easy challenge??
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420montana Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:55 AM
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1. his name...
and thats about it.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:56 AM
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2. Well...
um..hmmm...oh wait! I know! He said that he would be a uniter, not a divider. He certainly has united the Democrats like never before. Does that count?
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:56 AM
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3. he came out of his mothers festering womb
thats all i can think of
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:56 AM
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4. "This country would be easier to run
if it were a dictatorship, long as I'm the dictator."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:58 AM
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7. That was wishful thinking, not truth. I go with his name.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:58 AM
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5. He said we were going to war
we did. That's it
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:01 AM
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11. But he lied about working with the UN....
It was only an excuse to put the troops in place.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:58 AM
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6. He told the truth about hitting the trifecta
and he was honest to gleefully chuckle about how terror and death allowed him to loot the treasury.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:59 AM
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8. I believe he was telling the truth when
he admitted being a drunken bum until the age of 40. He has since given up on the drunken part.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:00 AM
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10. I think he has drank since then...
?? Just a hunch.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:00 AM
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9. That he had hit his "trifecta?"
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:04 AM
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12. Actually, that's an urban legend. The person inventing the "trifecta" meme
was actually Al Gore. Bush never said it; he only benefits from it. Go figure.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:09 AM
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17.  "trifecta" meme - I saw the Bush tape - why is this an urban legend?
:-)

How did Gore "invent" the application of "trifecta" to 9/11?

Indeed there is an urban legend that Bush said the various parts of the "trifecta" excuse in earlier speeches.

But the speech he made claiming a "trifecta" is real.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:14 AM
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19. In the 2000 presidential debates
Gore specified the three conditions which could be used to justify opening the social security lockbox: war, recession and national emergency. Bush most certainly did say on more than one occasion that he "hit the trifecta" referring to the three conditions Gore had originally described.

Bush promised during the presidential campaign to avoid tapping Social Security except in cases of war, recession or a national emergency.
"Lucky me. I hit the trifecta,'' Bush told Daniels shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to the budget director.
--Miami Herald, Nov. 29, 2001
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:42 AM
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34. Thanks - I had forgotten that :-)
:-)
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:46 AM
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35. I was actually responding to #12
but Bush told the trifecta "joke" at several fund raisers after it was printed in the MH...he got laughs with it too. Hardly an urban legend.
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Gasolinedream Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:06 AM
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13. That he has
sh*t for brains. Oh wait--maybe he didn't say that.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:07 AM
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14. He'd run America like a business
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:08 AM by Atman
Hey, businesses borrow billions and fail to pay it back before tanking, too, all the time. Especially ones Bush is involved in.
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progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:09 AM
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15. "Fuck Saddam... we're taking him out!" -George W. Bush
I guess that was pretty honest.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:11 AM
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18. In a moment of anger, he probably told the truth...
That and the comment about easier being a "dictator"....sound as if they are probably true.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:09 AM
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16. He said...
Christians and Muslums worship the same God. True...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:16 AM
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20. interesting challenge. Sure, he gets trivialities right all the time. But
the reason this is a hard thing to think of is that this administration is constantly in "spin" mode. He does get the occasional thing right. When he forcefully and quickly denounced violence against Muslims in the aftermath of 9-11 he saved lives. There was nothing going on like the outburst of hatred like we saw in 1991 with the hatred against Muslims following the invasion of Kuwait, despite there being far less justification for hatred back then.

The president can send signals like that to the general public and it affects the mood of the populace and it can set the boundaries that people react within. Poppy didn't do that in 1992 and the result was numerous incidents of violence against people percieved to be Iraqi. Contrast Bush's (early) response to 9/11 with Aznar's cynical manipulation of the Madrid bombing. Following similar tragedies, Americans grieved while Spaniards reacted with rage. The tone of our separate mournings is pretty starkly different.

The sad part is that that is the only instance I can think of in which the president in a moment of crisis did the right thing. Sadly, when things are planned out in advance, rather than reacted to in crisis, this president always gets it wrong.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:17 AM
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21. The issue isn't that Bush *always* lies
It's that he lies about the big stuff. Most of the WH spin has small elements of truth at their core, so as to make the claims defensible. If they had no factual basis, the lies would not be as powerful.

Lying is just like writing fiction - you have to maintain the suspension of disbelief.
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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:17 AM
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22. One thing I can think of
Off the top of my head, that ad where he said "I know EXACTLY where I want to lead this country"

Yes Bush and that is the scary part.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:19 AM
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23. He'd do for America what he did for Texas
run it into the ground and destroy it environmentally and economically.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:21 AM
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24. "I'm the master of low expectations."
That was true.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:21 AM
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25. Sure. He said, "We're going to have tax relief." (Inaugural address)
He didn't specifically say how the "relief" would be apportioned. But he did promise tax cuts, and this particular line was the big applause-getter in his Inaugural Address. (Such as it was.)
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:29 AM
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26. "I'm a war president."
That was true.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:32 AM
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27. "I'm taking a vacation"?
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:35 AM
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28. "I'm a uniter not a divider"
He's united the whole world against us.

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:45 AM
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29. i think he said he wanted to be a dictator
he is trying, you must admit.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:52 AM
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30. a link to the video
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:54 AM
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31. I believed them
When they said one of his dogs died.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:02 AM
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32. He said that 2001 was
a great year for he and Laura. I believe it was: he secured his dictatorship when he hit the trifecta. What more could you ask for.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:06 AM
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33. His would be the "personal responsibility" administration
The thief has managed to make Bill Clinton and/or his penis personally responsible for everything that's happened since he stole office.
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