Where is Kerry?? Things Are Getting Out of Control....way out of control

[BabsSong]

Last few days haven't been good for us and I won't go into details. It's more than 'terror' being on the front pages; the media (both print and tv)in lock step with Bush's ads have launched a "kill Kerry" drive on any and all subjects. But, I've been observing something else on the side and I'm getting a real sick feeling.

Kerry was around his D.C. home for a number of days because of reporters mentioning 'phone interviews' with him from there. He then went to West Virginia.

I saw part and pieces of the appearance. In voice strength and enthusiasm, John reminded me of someone who has just landed after a long trans-oceanic flight----you know, so tired it goes down your throat right to your breat bone (ever had that feeling?). I learned this a.m. he will take a 5 day vacation in Idaho. Now here's my big, big concern:

We were only able to answer the crap storm with one, anemic ad putting down the 900 billion dollar raising taxes claim. That said to me that we don't have a nickle yet to fight Bush and, thus, until we do, he will define this race (define it too long and it's over). Thus, it seems to me that Kerry would be attending fundraisers morning, noon and night. We don't have a week to wait as Bush rakes in cash by the bin falls each day. What's going on here (and I don't care how many other Dems might be out trying to rustle up a little cash)? Somethings wrong. I think I better not say anymore. I'll leave it at that.

[King of New Orleans]

1. slap

Your getting hysterical

[papau]

3. But he is right about the media going into kill Kerry mode!

I do not think enough folks are paying attention - but if the gang of 500 - as the ABCNote calls them - goes into storyline stories based on this flood, Kerry will have a hard time getting ANY message out.

[keithyboy]

25. It's up to us to help by getting out the information we know about

we need to help expose the lies and deceptions from media and Bush camapign.

[tjwash]

33. CNN this morning...

...wanted to slap the smirk off of B*'s face when I saw him saying "Kerry needs to back up the assertion that world leaders do not want me reelected with facts".

That POS probably can't even NAME any world leaders...

[Arkana]

36. hmmm

Maybe Kerry will name names when Bush comes clean about all the crap he's pulled in four years.

[rocktivity]

34. One slap, coming right up!

rocknation

[RoundRockD]

2. I agree.

This has been a bad week for Kerry. I hope this is just a temporary set-back.

[lancdem]

6. I hope so, too

But ups and downs are inevitable. Kerry has made some mistakes, and the silver lining is, I'm optimistic he'll learn from them.

[BabsSong]

7. Other than "Kerry won Illinois" every piece of political news today

is Bush attacks on Kerry. They are loving to play the clip of Bush telling Kerry he needs to back up his 'claim' with facts. This is where red meat should be flying back and forth. It isn't. No matter how you shake or bake it, we need money and that wagon better get rolling now.

[bagnana]

38. Kerry needs money!!!

This is so damn frustrating. What the hell foreign leader does want that war mongering idiot crooked liar as the president of the most powerful nation. THE WORLD HATES YOUR GUTS, A-HOLE, AND YOU KNOW IT. That is the most frustrating thing. Like anyone in the whole administration thinks world leaders are actually behind them. I wish other world leaders would just stand up to Bush and say "I support Kerry."

[diamond14]

14. it's been a GREAT WEEK for Kerry...he won the Democratic Nomination !!!

Let the cheers begin....bye bye naysayers....
internet rumors are not impressing anyone at DU....

GO KERRY...beat bush*
http://www.JohnKerry.com

[peacebuzzard]

46. thanks for link. 2nd day of donations.

I hope this campaign gives Kerry a boost to the top. We need him.

[radwriter0555]

41. What's been bad? That the bush regime is stepping up the hubris and LIES

about KERRY?

Hell, that means they're SCARED.... I LIKE it. It proves that the bush regime FEARS kerry.

I LOVE IT.

This is GOOD NEWS, especially when freeper lurkers spew the same lies and rhetoric here...

Yee HAW!

We got the GOPERS on the RUN.

[Name removed]

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[Robin Hood]

52. Bwahahaahaa!!

Go to free republic .com and post something pro dem and see how long that lasts there. Republican hypocrisy is staggering.

[rumguy]

53. You don't have rights on a privately owned message board

Obviously, you don't understand much do ya?

We won't ban ya as quick as we get banned from freerepublic...

And if you can't find the lies yourself, you are beyond help.

[diamond14]

56. the whole gang is out here today.....

like squatting flies....

[leftynyc]

58. I haven't read the speech yet so I can't list all

the lies and misrepresentations I'm sure are there. What I am sure of is I can't believe the chutzpah Cheney displays by daring to suggest future President Kerry doesn't care about the military. This is coming from a man who "had other priorities" when called to serve his country. Now he watches as he sends other peoples children to die. How he looks himself in the mirror is totally beyond me.

[tkmorris]

59. What are you babbling about?

Freedom of Speech doesn't apply on privately owned websites. And what the hell is "total proof" anyway?

"OMG, like I went to the big DU and I was all like 'Freedom of Speech!' and then they were all like, 'Banned! Pwned!', and then I was all like,'WTF?'"

[diamond14]

62. LOL...babbling babblings...bab.bab.babs...la-lala-la---la-----lalala...nt

nt

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

4. We better get used to this

it's only going to get worse till they unveil Bin Laden

[grannylib]

5. I think in retrospect it could be turned into a plus, if we focus on how

negative and vicious the wrong wing has been in attacking Kerry relentlessly, while standing in quicksand as far as their own record goes. And WHY isn't anyone but Olbermann on Countdown (as far as I've seen) talking about the fact that the reporter who initially said FOREIGN leaders actually meant MORE leaders; Kerry never said 'foreign.'
And I thought Biden did an outstanding job of undoing some of the damage that Tweety's other guests over the past few days have tried to do Kerry; Joe rocked.

[BabsSong]

9. granny--in order to make it a plus, we need ads out there

I know we can't match the number of Bush ads so the idea is a few good ones. It's not just that they play in the market selected for viewing but have you noticed that when one comes out they play it over and over on the news. That's the freebie Bush is getting and we need to cash on that freebie but it takes 'ads' so that the news media can view them. They are itching for a fight so they will air them as soon as they are made.

[grannylib]

11. Yup I have noticed...and I sent my $$$ to Kerry....anyone else helped

support the cause? And we CAN put pressure on the media...I try to send 5-10 messages a day MINIMUM to CNN, FAUX, MSNBC, etc. to let them know that there are people out there who want REAL news, REAL balance, and to QUIT FUCKING SHILLING FOR THE WRONG WING!

[Iceburg]

18. Canadians for Kerry

"Anyone else helped? ..." Yes, we are trying up here in Canada through all legal channels. I purchased a subscription to Salon today, donated to the Air America media fund yesterday and have ordered Kerry gear for the entire family.

We do care AND we do love Americans but hold * and this WH accountable for fostering hatred and fear throughout the world.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

19. Wow, that is such a good idea

It never occurred to me that you guys could legally donate to liberal media! That would be a huge help to get out the truth in the face of all the big lie propaganda. Thank you so much, words can't say what a generous thing it is that you are doing.

[grannylib]

21. Thank you for that...some of us remember how much Canada has been

a real friend to the US...I'd like to think that most people around the world hate not Americans, but the policies of American government that cause harm and promote the very terrorist activities it now claims it is trying to prevent...
We appreciate your support!!
GO KERRY!

[blm]

26. Thanks...good of you to do everything you can.

And keeping it legal, of course.

[newyawker99]

47. Hi Iceburg!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Iceburg]

55. Thanks for the wrarm welcome

Why its ....down right American!
We're pumpin' hard for you up here and we won't give up until democracy is restored in the Whitehouse. You'll be happy to hear that we booted Ann Coulter out of a job with one of our national newspapers (The National Post). She only managed to publish 2 columns before her sudden departure. Its amazing how effective a modest letter writing campaign to the advertisers and sponsors can be. It was the same technique that the gays and lesbians in Canada and the US used to take down Dr. Laura. In less than 1 year her 170 advertizers and sponsors pulled the plug on her show.

Our hearts are with you.
Iceburg

[Droopy]

8. Are you saying that Kerry should not have gone on vacation?

I agree that he should be fighting out there every chance he gets, but what's the use if you drive yourself to exhaustion or a nervous breakdown and end up in the hospital? It's a long race and I think Kerry will be there to fight to the end.

[smirkymonkey]

44. But doesn't he have a team

that is supposed to be working on this?? Nobody expects Kerry to do it all himself. And he needs to get a running mate out there doing his part - SOON!

Is it true that we are just a bunch of whimps? Where are the Rottweilers in the Democratic Party. Somebody needs to anticipate what is coming down the road and get a strategy together to deflect the Chimp's allegations!!

There is so much we could throw at him it's mind boggling!! Where's Soros, Carville, etc. What about Theresa's $$?

Can he accept contributions from overseas?? Because if he could, I am pretty sure he can outdo Chimpy's warchest by a mile.

[diamond14]

10. such remarks seem oddly out of place here.....working on Kerry's

campaign, I can tell all DUers that this is simply garbage rumors...made up...part of a bigger 'whispering' campaign against Kerry...


hopefully, all DUers will STAND UP and stop these rumors...it's time to unify behind Kerry and boot bush* out of OUR WHITE HOUSE....

Go Kerry
http://www.JohnKerry.com

[BabsSong]

17. I resent that----I'm not some internet rumor person

I barely know how to work the goddamn internet. It's just observation. And if I can observe it, a lot of people can observe it. I'm not denying John a vacation. But I think first we have some serious money to raise and we have to start getting a least one ad for every 10 of Bush's on the air. The media has had a feeding fest these last days, starting with op eds that crapped all over Kerry by using the Spanish events as proof he would be soft on defense.

[diamond14]

23. "internet rumor person"? nobody here used that term....

"I barely know how to work the goddamn internet".....

this is a very important statement to alleviate anyone's concerns here....however, not certain what applicability that statement has to your remarks here....starting with your BIG HEADLINER "Where is Kerry?? Things Are Getting Out of Control....way out of control
Last few days haven't been good for us and I won't go into details."







"I am not denying John a vacation"

agreed, Kerry deserves a vacation for a job well done....so why did you feel the need to bring that up? Why not raise up the GIANT VICTORY that Kerry has achieved this week?

[radwriter0555]

42. Do you SUPPORT kerry for the White House?

I'm curious.

Will you vote for kerry in November?

[Melinda]

45. No, you're part of some "whispering campaign"! <eyeroll here>

And you should resent the insinuation that you're a disrupter or anything similar. But then again, you may as well get used to it -"some" adoring Kerry fans expect and demand complete acquiescence from everyone at DU. :eyes:

[guajira]

30. Kerry has plenty of ammunition against B* - needs to use it

correctly. For example, how many times did B* lie to Americans, trying to connect Saddam with 9-11 and al qaeda?

Every time I heard him say something like - we have to get rid of Saddam, we don't want another 9-11. WTF?????
And nobody challenged B* on these lies until Howard Dean spoke up.

Now is the time to pull out videos of B* misleading Americans and make a real hard-hitting ad.

Also the bullshit about Saddam being a danger to the US - that too should be challenged with facts about Saddam's capabilities.

Recently I saw an ad made by Media Fund and it didn't even make sense. Hard to tell who they were supporting. This is a waste of valuable funds and air time. Quality like the incredible Move-on ad with the children is what is needed now!!

[diamond14]

31. Please come and help us at the Kerry campaign...it takes work and

rather than complaints....


Kerry WON because of enthusiastic hard-working volunteers, and I am proud to be one of them.....some will whine, some will spend time complaining and criticizing, others roll up their sleeves and get to work...step by step....WE WON ! and we are proud of our hard work...

if you want your ideas implemented, there are many opportunities to do so...please join us in our efforts to change America....all opportunities are posted here on John Kerry's web site...we are VOLUNTEERS.....we are Patriots....we are the people of America who care....join us now !


Go Kerry...beat bush*
http://www.JohnKerry.com

[Stephanie]

57. I had the same reaction on reading this post

Somethings wrong. I think I better not say anymore. I'll leave it at that.

This kind of fact-free insinuation is worthy of Matt Drudge. What's the deal?

[bearfartinthewoods]

63. sweet tea......the lack of response from the Kerry camp is obvious

anyone who isn't nervous isn't thinking. last night tweety and gang were all over how Kerry is out there alone and needs help.

trying to color the obvious as rumor mongering is destructive and feckless.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. Kerry is taking a week off

with his family in Idaho.

The man needs a break and needs to recharge in order to face the massive Bu$h machine that is now focusing all their attention on him.

I am glad Kerry is not responding directly to Bu$h at the moment. Kerry needed to respond to the first couple of attacks, like not apologizing for saying they were crooked liars and he handled it appropriately. Then Kerry respond to a couple of other Bu$h attacks head on and let him know he was going to be intimidated.

Now it's time to back off from responding to every attack. It also might be a good idea to let Bu$h and Co go off with there terror hysteria now. A lot of shit is hitting the fan and they are lashing out in every direction. In the process they very well may implode before the summer and we may have a major shack up in the American government before we even get near the election. Kerry just needs to sit back and avoid the blowback. If this guy survived real combat in Viet Nam, I think he can survive Dim Son's self-destruction. You just got to know when to respond and when to let the enemy do themselves in.

[bearfartinthewoods]

64. did you hear cheney today?

if Kerry needs a break, we need somebody fighting back and i don't mean us. where the hell is everyone?

[kentuck]

13. No need to panic....

We'll just gather up 3 or 4 of their lies at one time and throw them back into their faces. However, I agree, there can not be a long time without a response....and it's coming.

[Az]

15. Its real simple

Bush has more money than any other presidential candidate has had to spend in an election ever. If Kerry tries to stand toe to toe with his war chest he will be out of money in a week. He has to use other tactics. He has to weather Hurricane George.

Here are some factors to hang on to. The American public is sickened by negative attack ads. They may respond to them, but they overdose on them as well. Hurricane George is going to throw everything they have at John in order to force him to respond, thus depleting his war chest quickly. The common wisdom being that whatever you do not respond to is true. But this is the new public. They are sick of advance ad campaigns for movies and telephone ads blabbing about long distance services no one uses. Like Muzac of old, the modern barrage technique of advertisment is at its end. THe people will grow sick of Georges constant blustering.

The world is turning against George. Eventually the drone of George is a warmonger will get through to the people. We are not an island. We are part of the world. How it changes has an effect on us. The more George struggles to maintain dominance the more other nations will turn their back on him. Political leaders will fall. The people will see the emperor naked.

[Q]

16. Why is anyone surprised at this?

- Liberals have been WARNING the weak-kneed Neodems for YEARS that the Bushies will do anything to get and keep power. It should come as no surprise that they're doing a "Gore" on Kerry.

- The Democratic party should have NEVER allowed the Bushie Republicans to STEAL the 2000 election without suffering any consequences.

[Malva Zebrina]

24. I agree--thus opening the door to every other abuse and bully tactic

But we are here now. And, the Republicans have all their talking points memorized down to the last jot and tittle. WAtching the House--and the Republicans introduced a bill they claim is not a partisan bill that praises Bush's handling of Iraq, but is commemorative bill designed only to honor the brave troops in Iraq. Consequently they shut out the Democrats and refused to allow any ammendments.

Every Repoublican speech is a campaign stump speech out of their mouths. They lie (I am assuming this is part of George Bush's blitz that we were told would last a week to celebrate our invasion and victory in Iraq) any Every Repbulican who has risen to speak has it all memorized and down pat.

They connect 9-11 to Iraq. We gave the Iraqi people freedom. We got rid of an evil man who was a threat and who operated rape rooms and took away the freedoms of women--and in general it is all a big lie and we all know all about the lies.

It is absolutlely incredible--each one after the other, complete and total lies--lies lies. They are all delusional and trying to foist these impressions into a resvision of history and force it into a truth. They simply lie as if it were truth--in spite of O'Neil and in spite of David Kay, they continue to say Saddam was a threat and that we are great for killing ten thousand people on lies. I shake my head and a tear in my eye that my country has been reduced to a congress of which the party who holds the majority are as much filthy liars as the coward Bush.

Believe me, they are all in lockstep like a bunch of brownshirted thugs. Black Causcus doing a great job on rebuttal. Alcee Hastings and Barbara Lee are superb patriots and doing a great job.

[spanone]

20. Relax there are eight months of this kind of shit left. It will get worse

[opihimoimoi]

28. In the end, as Spain just showed us, Truth and Reason will ROCK

People are tired of the BS the Bush have come to represent. And the Bushies having nothing pos... have no choice but to continue the neg attack. Its all they have....

But on the other hand, while neg attacks work, many people are now seeing the results... and its all bad.

Choices. It comes down to choices. Either America goes for Bush or for Kerry.

Bush has shown he is "Slow", his reaction time is DUH, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, like slow. His brain has only one gear, the low one. A known BSer

Meanwhile Kerry is a fast thinker. Reaction time as quick as the best.

In the War experience Dept, one was in the Nat Guard, the other a Commander.

Overview, Kerry by a landslide. Bush is Toast.

[jackstraw45]

22. The guy needs to rest up...

He's been going nonstop for months.

This is still WAY too early to get worried. I'd rather him take 5 days now and be refreshed for the battle ahead than be a burnout on the campaign trail.....

If he has a good campaign infrastructure, it should be okay.

Remember in 2000 right before the election? Dubya went to bed early and Gore campaigned through the night. but *Bush had quite a campaign staff. We'll see how Kerry is doing....

[diamond14]

27. Kerry webcast 12 noon EST....major speech on Military Bill of Rights

The webcast will feature a major speech unveiling the Military Families Bill of Rights as John Kerry outlines plans to strengthen the U.S. Military. Tune in to JohnKerry.com at noon for the links to watch!

[BabsSong]

32. Hopefully there will be some decent coverage on what he has to say

..if we can't afford a lot of ads right now, it's these type of events needed to grab some free tv time. I hope I don't find this buried at the end of the news this evening. This speech in non-ad form is the answer to Bush's ad claiming Kerry's vote against the 87 billion was a vote against the troops. (just a note---did anyone ask Bush why he had all that money to begin with and never gave the troops the armor they needed; and he got the 87 billion and they still are in stark naked condition, so to speak?? Why when these media whores present Bush's ads don't they point that out. For once, at least Wolfe did yesterday!).

[Mick Knox]

29. I think Kerry is due a vacation...

Let him take a few days... There is time to undue anything.. He's got a long road ahead of him.. and its been a tough primary... Cut the guy some slack... Election is a long time away.

[seabeyond]

35. i think the turn has turned again

first republican with all the crap and of late biden ? albright and holbrook and handful of others challenging silliness of what "foriegn" more leaders and doing polls on foriegners and the hardball funt said paint kerry as frenchie and the really bother hard ball on his ethic scale and took funt down hard, yet then allowed the 87 billion ad. i saw fox take that down, which surprised me, finally reminding all why kerry did it. knew there was a reason, and now

the bush is saying you all need to rally and be patriotic, like after 9/11 which clearly was to shut everyone up, adn they do on tv and democrat called him on that clearly.

i am saying this is how kerry doesnt need to be competitive with bush money and just let bush do, and address with all the dem talkers. not only is the dem creating bush as lying, he is lying and people are hearing, people as in media.............

then the reporter ad, ............

bush only knows bully fighting, he has nothing to run on, and lives in lies, this is easy, if we allow it to be easy. no place for fear or doubt, wink. bush just has consistantly given, so i am going to trust that he will continue in arrogance, and limitation in thought

[emalejim9]

37. This crap is out of control......lets have patience

Blame Clinton, blame liberal media, blame the democratic party, blame Madeline Albright, blame Kerry !!!

That is what I had to endure on the radio during my morning drive into work. This is sad and it really hits a nerve. When I walked out of my car, I felt like I was the enemy. The repukes will not stop until they bury Kerry. Which is fine. Let him assume the underdog role. Americans always root for the underdog.

If you think about it, the Kerry camp has not come out swinging yet. How many campaign spokespersons have we seen on TV. Very few, of lately it has been all members of congress. Patience people.

[SoCalDem]

39. When he gets back from his vacation, I just hope

that he has a get-together with his fellow senators and the congresspeople.. He is going to NEED each and every one of them to help him .. Bush has no lack of "lackeys" who go out and attack Kerry at every turn, and so far the ones on Kerry's side seen a bit slow on the draw..

The release of the "drone" tape was a pre-emptive strike at any Clinton help he may have been planning.. These freaks know that if Clinton is questioned on only "why did you not get Osama..we have the tape"..he cannot be as effective at his support of Kerry..

[Comadreja]

40. Lots of us arewaiting to hear from Dean

If Dean throws support behind Kerry, I start sending money, as will thousands of other Progressives. It would be a powerful reminder to the DNC not to forget our agenda.

[Stephanie]

60. Dean has announced major speeches on Thurs and Fri this week

Thurs in Seattle and somewhere else (SF?) and Friday in NYC. I think he will anounce something then.

[Warren Stuart]

43. I totally disagree, It's been a great week

More and more Bush is being exposed as the liar he is, his bogus claims are being refuted. Kerry has a rapid response group that is able to respond even before the attack ads appear.

The "foreign Leader" gaffe, only highlights Bush's weaknesses, much like Michael Moore's "deserter" put his issue in the soptlight.

Call it Rope-a-Dope, or passive aggression, gaffes like these do more damage to Bush than the Democrats, because there is an element of truth to it. Kerry is not backing down. When the right wing and its media minions complain about Kerry, they are constrained, because the Republicans are guilty of much worse.

The Republican's message just ain't resonating like it used to. And for them it's just going to get worse. Why:

D-Day anniversary, this is a terrible time for a draft dodger to be running for president, you can expect to see a ressurgence of AWOL and deserter stories in June, as well as Kerry's Heroes stories.

9/11 Commission is going to release it's report which will be damning for the Bush Administration.

The Plame investigation will produce indictments sooner or later.

The Medicare Bill Blackmail story ain't going away.

And many more

[BabsSong]

48. What a difference a few hours make

I started this thread this morning. And now--I think all vacations should be cancelled. Kerry just can't go away on this note. He can't. He's got to get his face on TV and it can't be to agree with Bush. I noticed that said his comment was something like this was just more of Bush's failed policy and his arrogant refusal to review, change policy, etc. Kerry---stay in town; stay in front of a camera; don't have the Dems find out you are on vacation now. You have to roll with the events.

[diamond14]

50. babs = usual nickname for barbara bush, dubya's mother ??

nt

[BabsSong]

51. and "amen" is something Falwell and Robertson say

Are you working for them?? Hot news: there are other people in the world named Barbara like Streisand! Take a look at another thread just started where a poster is having the same fears. With the events this afternoon, Kerry has to be visible.

[diamond14]

54. I never listen to falwell or robertson, and I never capitalize their

names either....it's not customary here on DU....

[BabsSong]

61. Well if you're going to go after me for using Babs in my

title because I adore Striesand and her songs and her politics, then why don't you take on everyone who has the name Bush in some form or other in their titles. Or if someone has Kerry or Dean---gee, they must be capitalizing on it and I'll bet they were up to secretive, subvertive thinking when they thought up their titles, too. Why don't you address the issue and stop this "super slueth" idiocy. We need to keep Kerry front and center for a few days. He has to stay and fight. Been through decades of these fights and while there may be months to come, there's always that one critical stupid time when a campaign can just implode----ask Howard "yeeehaw" Dean.