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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:41 PM
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Son of Baptist Missionaries has a blog
The son of two of the missionaries that were killed earlier this week has a blog. His name is Scott Elliot. He appears to be a Republican but that doesn't really matter to me.

http://www.electionprojection.com/index.html

DUers may wish to pay him condolences.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:51 PM
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1. Rinsd. welcome and thanks
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Roaming Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:11 PM
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2. It certainly doesn't matter to me either
What a wonderful couple. May God comfort their friends and family. They are true martyrs, gentle souls, and will surely have an honored seat at the "wedding banquet."
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:13 PM
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3. They and Rachel Corrie are looking down on us all right now
Hopefully they see better times ahead for our world.
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:20 PM
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4. ?!?!
Are you kidding?! That's the kind of effed-up irrational thinking that killed those people in the FIRST frickin' place!!!
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:32 PM
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6. good post...
thanks...

</sarcasm>
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:25 PM
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5. God comfort him and his family
So much seems to make no sense now, but his faith and God's love will see him through.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:54 PM
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7. Sorry that he lost his parents, but they put themselves in harm's way
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 03:55 PM by SoCalDem
and they pretty much knew that they could leave their kids parent-less when they did it..

I am sure that he is well connected to the "religios" , and they will comfort him..

They had no business there, and their luck ran out.

Islamic people are not exactly lining up to be converted . There are plenty of people here who would have benefited from their acts of kindness.. Too bad they lost their lives in such a futile pursuit.
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Roaming Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:08 AM
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8. So do firefighters, police officers, etc.
Guess you coull call them a spiritual "rescue team!"
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Roaming Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:08 AM
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9. So do firefighters, police officers, etc.
Guess you coull call them a spiritual "rescue team!"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 01:00 PM
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10. Preaching to people who don't "need/want" it,
is not the same as putting out a fire or protecting someone in danger..

The zealots will never agree..so we can just disagree :)
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Roaming Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:35 PM
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11. Sure, we can do that :-)
I guess they'll never know if they need it or want it until they can hear first, and then decide...
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:15 PM
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13. so you're comparing being non-Christian to a disaster?
are you thinking about what you're saying?

The "spiritual rescue team" to what, rescue those poor heathen Muslims from their evil "religion"???

If this is your attitude, why are you at DU?

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:04 AM
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14. I always wonder
how the "religiosos" would feel if all of a sudden, Hindus, Muslims or Buddhists descended on their town, followed them around and preached to them night and day...or withheld food until they "converted"...

Religion should be "sought after", NOT force-fed...

Our middle son is a prime example.. We never went to church or forced religion on any of our kids..and at 26, he has joined a church.. He asked me what I thought about it, and I said "Great"..

He met the pastor while he was doing some carved doors for the church, and liked the guy.. The pastor invited him to join them for church, and he started going, and likes it..

But... It was HIS choice.. HE was the one who went looking.. That's the way religion SHOULD be.. Just because someone's parents are a certain religion, should not dictate what the children are.. and NO ONE should be out there collecting souls, like the old muleskinners collected scalps..

Religion should be about free will.. not deception and trickery

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 04:09 PM
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18. I do agree...they are also putting our troops in harms way
bad foreign policy PR to have missionaries roaming the country preaching..and I agree with you...our troops are hated enough as representatives of the US, we dont need our kids being attacked because missionaries decide to go waltzing over there...
sad the kids parents died, they should NOT have been there. Not at all. The Iraqis do NOT want them there. Period.
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Roaming Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 03:52 PM
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16. I'm comparing missionaries to disaster workers, in that they both
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 04:15 PM by Roaming
are putting themselves in harm's way by doing something that they believe will save people. But again, missionary work is not something that is forced; it is offered and then left at that. (I realize where the negative image must have come from, but modern-day missionaries are NOT like the Spanish conquistadors; not are they Bible-thumping, self-righteous jerks; they are humble, gentle people who are dedicating their lives to what they believe is the truth.)

A loving Christian never would characterize other people as "poor heathens." If I did believe that, the question wouldn't only be "what am I doing on DU" but "what am I calling myself a Christian for?"

In fact, Christ commands us to view everyone we meet as someone we can serve and that we should have the highest respect for others (from scriputure "thinking of others as better than yourselves..."). Part of that love is helping people with their physical needs, and part of it is striving to offer the Gospel message to those who are WILLING to hear. It's all done from a loving heart, and never forced.



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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:07 PM
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12. these people had absolutely NO business being there!
it's too bad this kid lost his parents, but they were part of an invading occupying army!

They were going into a country that was militarily occupied, and telling the people there that their culture and religion are wrong.

That is the opposite of progressive politics, and I cannot understand why anyone who is a progressive would support that kind of missionary activity.

Someone else posed a question on another thread: How would southern baptists feel if the South were occupied by the forces of a Muslim country, and Muslim missionaries were going around trying to convert them and their children by offering food when they were hungry?

"I guess they don't know if they want to know Allah or not unless they're asked"...

I don't think so.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 04:04 PM
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17. Okay....
"it's too bad this kid lost his parents, but they were part of an invading occupying army!"

I am sure that sentiment would go over real well at the rally of family members against the war who have lost someone.

"That is the opposite of progressive politics, and I cannot understand why anyone who is a progressive would support that kind of missionary activity."

Sending someone condolences on the death of their parents regardless of their poltical or religious persuasion I think would be the height of liberalism. Do "progressives" feel differently? I seriously doubt that.

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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:19 AM
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15. Irregardless on how you feel about Republicans or missionaries
We should wish him condolences.

Losing a parent is hard. Losing both of them is overwhelming.

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