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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:16 PM
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An email about Spielberg's answer to Mel's Passion
Sent by a friend. I have no idea if the movie plans are true (I doubt it) but I enjoyed the email greatly.

Spielberg's Answer to Gibson's Passion: I'm filming The Crusades Hollywood Mega-hit Producer and Director Steven Spielberg has decided to fight fire with fire.

He's announced that since Mel Gibson is fueling the fires of anti-semitism in the world with his movie about the last hours of Christ, Spielberg will make a graphic movie about the Crusades. In order to get Jews and Moslems to convert to Christianity,Spielberg commented.

Christians went through Europe and into the Middle East forcing conversions on non-believers. Along the way they raped, beat, bludgeoned, maimed, tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children. I will show Christian brutality in a realistic and most graphic and gory way.

Spielberg went on to add that the movie will have a well-deserved anti-Christian tone. Lets face it, Gibson wants to blame the Jews for the death of one person we didn't even kill. I will show the inhuman brutality of thousands of Christians against hundreds of thousands of people of other faiths, about which historically there is no ambiguity as to who is to blame.

Spielberg said that if this movie is successful, he is likely to follow it up with The Spanish Inquisition,a historical film on the torture and murder of the Jews of Spain by the Catholic Church. To complete the trilogy, Spielberg announced, in 2006 I will be filming Hitler and the Pope: A Team Formed in Hell. That should generate some heated debate.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:19 PM
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1. right on
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:22 PM
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2. I've asked the mods to move this to GD
OOPS!
Glad you liked it. :-)
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:29 PM
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5. THANKS MODS!
That was fast.
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:22 PM
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3. hate to burst your/his bubble...OK, I don't hate it..
but the movie isn't anti-semitic...unless a person wants it to be...polling recently released found while 2% of viewers had a more negative view of Jews, 9% had a more positive view of Jews..leaving 89% unchanged...looking for a link
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:25 PM
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4. That's fine by me....
cause the Crusades (both past and present) were brutal and extremely
un-catholic-like.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:30 PM
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6. I think the Crusades were definitively Catholic.
And I grew up one.
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:33 PM
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10. No Problem

...no problem with Mel's "the passion of the Christ" its pretty accurate...in my view a little too much violence and he lets Pilot get off a bit easy but hey, I have no problem with it and i doubt Spielberg is making such a movie as a direct denouncement of Mel's work... and in the context of the time the crusades where perfectly acceptable, Christian rights in the holy lands had been trampled and so the Pope built a massive coalition and sent an army across Asia minor and into the middle east to retake Jerusalem which they did...in the context of the time that not a bad thing... you should not view history in a contempery context but rather in the context of the time…so in that case the crusades where ok…however the massacring of civilians in Jerusalem was most certainly not…
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:48 PM
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12. I'll break it to you gently.
The Bible isn't exactly straight-on non fiction. No evidence the character called Jesus ever existed.

Personally, I have a theory that the so-called gospels are actual works of fiction, but over time people started confusing them with reality. Think things like Paul Bunyan, John Henry, Casey Jones, other mythical and semi-mythical characters.

Just my odd opinion.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:50 PM
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14. No problem for whom?
I'm sure that in the context of the time, the Crusades were not "OK" with Jews and Muslims. That you think it's ok that this happened in the past says some pretty weird things about you.
Do you think it is EVER ok for self-described Christians to rape, torture and murder in the name of Jesus? What is the point of Christianity and its moral claims if even the Pope couldn't refrain from murder and pillage?
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:01 PM
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17. Are you lost?
Check your addy.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:41 PM
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19. The bad thing about Catholicism is that you can't surgically remove
the good from the bad. A lot bad happened precisely because Catholicism once required absolute obedience. The lesson is, that all organized religion is subject to the same abuse. So protect your spirituality by forming a direct connection with God, and not relying on deacons, priests or whatnot to talk for you.
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A J Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:31 PM
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7. Funny, but not true....
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Sir Craig Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:33 PM
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9. Damn, beat me by a lousy minute...
Curse you and your ability to type without looking at the keys!
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A J Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:53 PM
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15. I didn't go to typing shcool for nohting!
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Sir Craig Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:32 PM
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8. Hoax
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:56 PM
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16. okay
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 07:10 PM by seventhson
nt

I am jiggy with it on St Patrick's day
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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:37 PM
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11. Anyway, Spielberg would be in no position
to get self-righteous about a movie that cynically manipulates its audience in order to get them to identify with a Christ figure. Not as the guy who directed E.T., the Extraterrestrial.

(Oh, and if you don't remember the movie as manipulative, you're forgetting the whole "Oh no, E.T. is dead! --Never mind, just kidding" part of the plot.)
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:49 PM
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13. DAMN that's good! Did Speilberg have anything to do with it?
Mel is nuts. His movie sure was well put together and marketed, though.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:26 PM
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18. Unfortunately not
The line "Hitler and the Pope: A Team Formed in Hell." was kind of a clue. Fun subject for discussion, though.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:49 PM
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20. I was going to say
This sounds like a joke. Very good. :D
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:51 PM
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21. I love Spielberg
n/t
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