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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:25 PM
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I told you Rove would do this...
So someone broke into that poor researcher's office and stole all those documents about Kerry's FBI file? Wow, Kerry sure must have something to hide. --- That's the story the cable whores are leading with tonight. And guess who planted it? Here's something I posted in January:


Karl Rove is a master at the self-inflicted dirty trick. I would expect that as this year progresses, we'll see any number of incidents that make 'ole Georgie look like a beat-up puppy. And it will all come from Rove.


Rove's dirty fingerprints could also be seen in the Iowa Senate race between Tom Harkin and GOP candidate Greg Ganske. A few months ago, a story was leaked that the Harkin campaign had employed a spy within the Ganske campaign. To put this in a Rove context, we must go back to the 1986 Texas gubernatorial race in which Rove's candidate Bill Clements was taking on Democratic Governor Mark White. Just before a debate between the two candidates, Rove spun the story that his office had been bugged. No proof. But the insinuation that White's people had carried out the bugging was reported by the media. In the election, Clements defeated White. Rove stashed away more political capital into his already heavy knapsack of ill-gotten IOUs.

During the 2000 presidential campaign, we were obviously treated to more Rove chicanery when the following Associated Press story hit the wires: "A woman who worked for a media company that produced ads for President George W. Bush's campaign was indicted for secretly mailing a videotape of Bush practicing for a debate to Vice President Al Gore's campaign." Yes, that videotape, along with a 120-page briefing book, just happened to turn up in Gore's headquarters as fast as the CD-ROM turned up in Lafayette Park. The sourcerer Segretti must be very proud of his apprentice. In 1980, no Republican bemoaned the fact that Jimmy Carter's debate briefing book was swiped and found its way into the hands of the Reagan-Bush campaign. In Rove's world, its only an affront when someone "steals" your own campaign secrets and not when your are on the receiving end of a heist.

Exposing Karl Rove

It's what he does. No one has spent more time doing dirty tricks and covering up behind himself than Rove. And the beauty of the self-inflicted dirty trick is that it is so difficult to expose the trick. Get a third party to expose a know skeleton in your candidate's closet at the last minute and EVERYONE will think your opponent has "gone dirty".

About the only defense for Rove is to "bell the cat". Make sure that everyone knows his MO so that when the inevitable self-inflicted dirty trick occurs, Rove will be the chief suspect. Of course, this assumes an honest press. But something must be done...


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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:28 PM
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1. Weren't the documents gotten through the FOIA?
Couldn't anyone request a copy of them?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:31 PM
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2. Of course. The point is to make it seem that Kerry is desparate...
to hide his past. I'm telling you, this just reeks of Rove.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:33 PM
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3. But easily rebutted, as in the post above. EOM
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:35 PM
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4. But that's another Rove tactic. Lie on page one, retraction a week later..
on page 14.

It's time to make Rove and his tactics a campaign issue.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:40 PM
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7. Even though the theft of the documents is easily rebutted by
the documents being accessed through Freedom Of Information Act, I got the point of what you're trying to say, Junkdrawer.

Those with short attention spans will only remember the damaging documents being stolen - they won't remember that the documents can be easily replaced or replicated.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:25 AM
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14. That point went WAY over my head and I'm pretty astute.
Honestly, I never even thought of that. I doubt that the average American would think that way.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 07:20 AM
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16. Oh, just wait until the RW talk shows and cable news spin this...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:35 PM
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5. Get a fund and a team to dig dirt on Rove.
I'll give that effort some fairly big bucks.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:39 PM
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6. That should be easy.
Follow the N-A-Z-I clues.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:47 PM
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8. Demo, you should hook up with Sander Hicks....
http://sanderhicks.com/index.html

He's the guy who published James Hatfield's book and watched his friend commit "suicide" after he revealed that Rove leaked Hatfield all the damaging stuff on Bush, knowing Hatfield's background. As you may remember, the story then stopped being "Bush & Cocaine" and became "Bush critic is a convicted felon". Well, after Hatfield's death, Hicks started a biography on Rove...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:10 AM
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13. Here's a snip from a chapter of that book...

The Legacy of Lee Atwater

Clinton's triumph over the Reagan/Bush legacy in '92 taught the Republicans a hard lesson: the American people were disenchanted with the traditional Republican image of the preppie, landed, white man of hereditary wealth. President George H. W. Bush had made the tragic mistake of giving interviews from the back of his golf cart. His re-election chances slid fast after he appeared to fail to recognize a bar code scanner in a supermarket trade show. Bush was alienated from the objects and processes of regular life. His speech and thinking were alienated from the issues and cares of normal people. When the media picked up on the price scanner embarrassment, Bush's distance from the people made headlines. Chaos reigned. Clinton, and even Perot, dominated Bush in polls.

In 1988, a dream team of Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, and eldest son George W. Bush helped papa Bush swamp Dukakis. They used negative television ads and media spin. Perhaps more importantly, the flamboyant, charismatic, and utterly driven Lee Atwater knew how to translate poll data into a reading of subtle shifts in the thinking of the nation. In a way, Atwater's ghost haunted the 1992 campaign. Atwater (and later Horowitz) understood the importance of the social activism of the Baby Boomer generation. Clinton represented "all those hip, New Politics things Atwater had seen coming."

Atwater understood that the upheavals of the '60s had created a seismic shift: people demanded more humanity from their leaders. The good old boy model in the Republican Party was dead and ninety percent of the country was not mourning it. In fact, Atwater's unfinished PhD dissertation drafted a thesis having to do with the political use of music, a lesson obviously learned from the antiwar movement that seamlessly blended culture and politics. (Conservative social critic David Brook's recent Bobos in Paradise further elucidates the shifting zeitgeist, in his analysis of the bohemian, anti-establishment buying habits of the "new Ruling Class.")

By 1992, Atwater was dead of brain cancer, Rove was working for Philip Morris, and first son George W. was working as the financial face man for the management of the Texas Rangers. Junior was not asked to work on the campaign until the last minute. Too little, too late, young Bush approached his father and discussed whether Vice President Dan Quayle should de dropped from the ticket. He begged that his dad replace the incompetent campaign manager Bob Tweeter with someone like Sam Skinner, the former White House Chief of Staff. Both suggestions were ignored.


More...

http://sanderhicks.com/articles/horowitzint.html
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:48 PM
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9. Me too, Mac!
:D
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:58 PM
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11. PM sent to you..n/t
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:51 PM
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10. Suicide - the "master's" work? Rove and Hatfield
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:06 AM
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12. It's not only Rove...
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 12:07 AM by PaDUer
there's a Viet Nam Veteran's group who've been sending TONS of emails out about everything you can imagine about Kerry...tons...I've got a lot of them..these people are on a mission of destruction and haven't let up a day, has been ongoing since January..They've done everything you can imagine regarding Kerry..this group is out to destroy Kerry.
edit--the leader is a marine, who's teamed up w/ some army guys.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 06:59 AM
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15. Kick
:kick:
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 07:27 AM
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17. Karl Rove campaign contributions 1993 - 2004
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate.php?last=Rove&first=Karl

no major surprises, but you may find it interesting...
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 07:58 AM
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18. Did you notice Rummy?
He donated to: BILL BRADLEY FOR PRESIDENT INC $1000 08/16/99
General Instrument Corporation BRADLEY, BILL (D)
President


Rumsfeld, Donald Mr.
Chicago, IL 60611
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 08:29 AM
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19. Interesting link! Thanks...
:kick:
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