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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:30 AM
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al-Sadr and Fallujah/Najaf - just the beginning?
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 11:30 AM by fryguy
Could this be the start of something much worse than we even realize?

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=820

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In the last 24 hours, Shiite radicals of Baghdad and southern Iraq have gone on the warpath, vying with the Sunni Triangle’s al Qaeda and Baathist guerrillas in anti-US violence. One year after ending the combat phase of the Iraq war, the US-led coalition finds itself fighting therefore on the two fronts.

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The real cause underlining the Sadr rebellion is brought to light by DEBKAfile’s intelligence and counter-terror sources. They stress that it was far from spontaneous. Indeed it was prepared well in advance to at the behest of Tehran - with the collaboration of Damascus and the Hizballah - by the Shiite master terrorist Imad Mughniyeh. Its purpose: to trigger Iran’s Spring Offensive against the Americans in Iraq.

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In the first hours of what looks like evolving into the second Iraq war, it is impossible to predict how the combat will develop or where the coalition and the radical Shiites are heading.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:36 AM
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1. This is just the beginning.
It's been building for some time now. When I first arrived in Iraq they were gun shy and didn't venture out too much. By last summer they were getting re-organized and now the big push is beginning to show. It's going to get a lot worse before we get control of this. In my opinion Bush is totally clueless and listening to the wrong people.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:39 AM
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2. I agree......
Watching the Chimp give his inane speeches these past few days reminds me how "out of the loop" our Pretzeldent truly is! He is like the alcoholic gambler who has just given up, and given in to the inevitable. Its clear he doesn't really give a shit!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:46 AM
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3. IMHO, we've lost control and will never get it back.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:49 AM
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4. Look -- They're Blaming Iran, Syria, and the Palestinians
one of which may be the next geopolitical target. What a surprise.

I guess the best defense is a good offense. :silly:
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:54 AM
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5. coming from the Zionist-Mossad disinformation front Debka..
no surprise there. :eyes:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:18 PM
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8. It also wouldn't surprise me
if Bush used this propaganda as a pretext for "expanding" the war, just like Nixon did to Cambodia in 1970. It worked so well the first time, right?!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:58 AM
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6. "Iran’s Spring Offensive against the Americans"
ah.. iran is attacking us? gee thats convenient we have a whole big army right next door.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:17 PM
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7. I am still astonished that they were not able to see
how complicated "liberating Iraq" was going to be. This makes Vietnam look simple from a geopolitical, sociological and cultural standpoint.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:19 PM
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9. they bask in "complications" and this is exactly what they want!
dont worry they see it =)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:38 PM
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11. that is scarier than the alternative
it is the "well-educated professional" per Condi and her ilk, whose academic analysis of the problem may, ironically, have a simplistic view of it's own. As we say in my business, most, if not all, problems are multifactorial.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:30 PM
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10. Typical GOPher
They try to look at things in the most simplified, faux-news packaged way possible. Liberalism = Bad; Iraq invasion easy; tax cuts cure all ills. Instead of considering the wide ranging implications of their actions. Its like the cartoon of the guy sawing it off the tree limb between him and the trunk; they never look at what the likely consequence will be. And to make matters worse, the pResident seems clearly content to live in blissful ignorance. Relying only on what his cadre of sycophants will tell him.....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:40 PM
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12. debka is a really bad source
"iran`s spring offensive" -damascus and hizballah..who else the vatican guard? i`m sure the iraqis are smart enough to fight their own battles without the help of their "friends" the irianians...
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 01:45 PM
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13. I don't need to hear it from Debka -- it's the second war
the first war we fought Saddam's military.

Now we're fighting the people themselves.

Nice.

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