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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:57 PM
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Wesley Clark? Come on.
Just watched his interview with Van Susteren.

How can he *not* play a crucial role in a Democratic administration?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:58 PM
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1. Wesley is the man
I have no doubt he will play such a role in the Kerry administration.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:00 PM
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2. Details please
I got rid of Fox and now I can't get it back--too complicated to explain. So please share what he said.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:02 PM
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4. He more or less reiterated what he said last week
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 10:03 PM by tishaLA
about the number of troops (need more); need to not set dates, but set goals, need more international support and less focus on just American troops, etc.

It was brief, but he was excellent as always. And of course he was right, too.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:07 PM
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8. Thanks
I wish I saw it.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:31 PM
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13. This is from the Clark blog
(#5) (No rating)
by Lara (Lara at forclark dot com) on 04/08/2004 11:21:02 PM EST
Rate this: - 1 2 3 4 5 + | Reply

Recap of Gen. Clark on Greta's show for those who missed it. This is paraphrased in parts because I was trying to watch as I was listening. I can't wait for the transcript! :o)

Clark: Right now, we are at one of the decisive moments in this war. We need to gain control of the urban areas. We have crossed an important threshhold and have had to bring our heaviest ground weapons to bear. My fear is that we have discredited the Iraqis who supported us in this effort. They have abandoned the police stations. They are in hiding. Once we finish this, we will be starting all over in a deficit. This has to call into quesiton the 30th of June turnover date. This has to put into quesiton Paul Bremer's insistance that we turn over Iraq into the hands of Chalabi.
Right now we need political and economic assistance.

Greta asks Clark about the troops and the planning and execution of the fighting in Fallujah:

Clark: We've got the best generals in the world over there. They are very competant and able and mature and very capable of dealing with setbacks, but we don't have enough troops on the ground to finish this fight quickly. This has increased the difficulty in working with Iraqis who were moderately friendly to the United States. We should have taken care of Fallujah three days ago, but, from what I see, we don't have enough troops there. This is a city of 300,000. We have some great marines there, but it's not enough. The longer this goes on, the more the fence-sitters are apt to join the insurgents. We may have to go and do an emergency deployment of troops back here. This will look bad, politically, for the Bush Administration, but it would show the American resolve to end this.

She asks about whether we can capture those who murdered the four contracted workers (stupid, idiotic question, in my opinion) and states that this is what the "real problem" is and how all this got started.

Clark: That's impossible without someone turning them in and I don't see that that will happen. but that is NOT the real problem. The real problem is that we went in and nbever had a winning political strategy. The basic principle is that you don't go in and throw grenades and spears at one another, you throw (something - I couldn't hear the word, but it sounded like a classic Gen. Clark vocabulary word - imbeckias, embekias, ambecias... anyone know? I tried to find a similar word on dictionary.com and couldn't. Maybe I've mis-heard or don't have it spelled anywhere near correctly). We should try to make things better through dialogue. It takes an organization to to do it and we didn't put an organization in there. We only put our military in there and told them to sort it out. We cannot go into something with the kind of preconceived notions that we did - like Donald Rumsfeld saying that there can be "no theocracy." It looks maneuvered. It looks maneuvered so that Chalabi could take control and that is so transparent. This transparency builds resistance.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:37 PM
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14. He gets it
and he is so articulate. I missed him tonight, but saw him recently explaining the problems and the responses we need, and he was particularly clear that we should let go of our clinging to Chalabi at this point. I definitely agree with that.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:01 PM
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3. Yes - he's brilliant
and I'm sure it pains him terribly to watch what's going on in Iraq. He knows the deal - if we don't get control of the situation quickly, all could be lost. Not enough troops...300,000 people in Fallujah alone. INTERNATIONAL support is needed.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:03 PM
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5. U WES A!
:cry:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:03 PM
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6. SIGH
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 10:04 PM by sparosnare
I know, Kahuna. :hug:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:07 PM
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7. Ah, sweetie
:grouphug:
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:13 PM
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9. Kahuna! Where ya been?
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:13 PM
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10. I'll wager he will. I voted for him in our OK primary (which he won)
If JK picks him for VP that would suit me very well...but he would be IMO a fine SecState or SecDef.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:14 PM
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11. Everybody wants to know..
Kerry's plan to get us out of Iraq. Clark could prove to be part of his answer. I really believe he is one of the few people around with the experience and knowledge to save our ass.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:18 PM
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12. The only candidate I voted FOR rather than against.
VP or SoS.

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