Copyright issues at FreeRepublic

[hexola]

Anyone else notice that the FreeRepublic seems to be getting a hardline treatment when it comes to copyright issues? It's as if the print media knows who they are, and are willing to pull every legal string possible to make life difficult for the people that run the site. Hope so!

Does DU recieve similar scrutiny?

Latest Post "More copyright complaints"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1114163/posts

[mot78]

1. Check this out

To: Jim Robinson
YUP. The non-partisan, unbiased press... the ones that will review any left-wing book but refuses to review a book by Sean Hannity.. is worried about their articles being read.
I know there are liberal groups sending them e-mails and letters. It will be interesting to see if DU and other websites are allowed to post their articles.


13 posted on 04/08/2004 9:25:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Hey, I am on the internet. I have a right (cough, cough) to write stupid things.)
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Well we did get a copyright notice. And it was from Faux over use of Simpsons avatars. But unlike the Freeps, we actually abide by the copyright laws.("Moderator" enforces them like a slave-driver :D)

[LiberalFighter]

2. Does copyright include or exclude "Letters to Editor" in

local newspapers?

[girl gone mad]

8. IANAL, but I believe that..

letters are in the public domain.

[Dogmudgeon]

10. Your letters to the editor

In nearly ALL cases, your letters to the editor become the property of the newspaper employing the editor that you sent the letter to. This falls under intellectual property law.

Thus, there is no real freedom of speech any time money or property ("consideration") is at stake.

--bkl

[LiberalFighter]

35. So I can't ...

post the letters on my website with source, date, and sometimes with a direct link to the source?

[Dogmudgeon]

36. Strictly speaking, no

In practice, almost always, Yes.

Ideally you should ask first, but in practice, the newspapers don't do much enforcing. But that could change, especially if there's any criticism of Mad King George.

--bkl

[kaos]

3. Give it time..

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[wuushew]

4. morans...all they have to do is not paste a complete article

I am more interested in the legal happenings with that unauthorized fake Kerry picture they had issues with earlier.

[kaos]

9. "morans...all they have to do is not paste a complete article"

The "morans" are into that freedom of speech thing?
Go figure?

[mot78]

5. Oh by the way...didn't you get the memo?

We're supposed to devote our eternal two minutes hate at "Conservative Underground".

[revcarol]

6. They know the people there are suckers.

they will come up with the money to fight lawsuits, pay judgments, etc.Brainwashed.

[Rationality]

16. That's quite a theory...

Just so happens they're having a fundraiser ("Freeperthon" or something so-poorly named). You'd think Jim Robinson would pick this time to say "uh... my fellow Clinton haters, the liberal, leftwing, leftist Islamophiles in the leftist, liberal media wants to sue us, and I need your help to stop this. Donate today?"

[NMDemDist2]

26. yes, but is God calling him home if he doesn't make the cash? EOM

[girl gone mad]

7. They seem to have a hard time ..

sticking to 'fair use' standards. Of course, they think all mainstream media is liberal and out to get them, so it's within their rights to just steal content instead of sending traffic to the communist web sites.

[kaos]

11. 'fair use' standards

Take 3 or 4 paragraphs post it and supply a link...
Do we still have idiots that think everything is for free?

[mot78]

13. As they say "that's how capitalism works"

BTW, I noticed that a majority of them are RIAA-apologists, although a vocal minority HATE the RIAA and DMCA.

[kaos]

20. Capitalism.

Money talks bullshit walks..

[GordonOKC]

17. Good response

by reference to the 'fair use' standard. The CREEPERS oops, FREEPERS are such hypocrites. They claim (at one would have assumed) to be for property rights; unless it's something they want take for themselves; then all of a sudden it becomes a plot. :puke:

[ktranz]

12. what's the world coming to!?!?!

who came up with all these carzy "copy right" law!?!?!?

[Rationality]

18. Yeah, that's "carzy!"

But you got to know, if you're going to plagarize, you better "copy right!"

[boobooday]

14. I just came across one of the court cases involving the site

in my class, Telecomm & The Constitution.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[TSIAS]

15. I think the Washington Post and LA Times sued FR

I believe the WP and LA Times were victorious in their suit against Free Republic.

[Cloud]

19. That cracks me up

I read about halfway down the page and they are complaining about the liberal media trying to silence them and stuff like that.

They are saying this violates free speech. Hey airheads, it is not your news articles. Those news services have rights to their own material. How friggin hard is it to just post 3-4 paragraphs and a link?

LOL Jim is complaining that this violates Fair Use and that they are being denied their legal rights and this is against what this nation stands for.

This is rich. I am laughing so hard my sides ache.

Yes freepers, beware, we are an organized campaign out to get you. :evilgrin:

[Must_B_Free]

22. It shows how stupid they are

why host the entire article when you could link it and let the owner of the bits foot the traffic bill?

[kaos]

27. why host the entire article .

How can you give a barf alert on the first 3 paragraphs?

[bearfartinthewoods]

34. to be fair..and i can't believe i just said that

their objections are our objections. originally they wanted to be an archive for articles that got changed on the original site. we've run into the same thing as well, stuff gets scrubbed and their is no way to prove what was originally there.

that said, it a cryin' shame that some evil people are trying to make trouble for our fellow fighters for free speech </sarcasm>

[Rationality]

21. Calling all DU inflitrators in Freeperville

You know your mission now. Even if you must play neocon, make sure you copy/paste that entire article when you make new threads. Pull from as many sources as you can without getting caught/zotted. Then watch the money fly from Frenso. MUHAHAHAHAH!!!!

[markses]

25. Fuck that

As much as I despise their site and their ideology, I think such activities are bullshit, especially since one has to buy into the obsolete and offensive copyright system in order to perform these functions.

[Rationality]

29. "buy into the obsolete and offensive copyright system?" I don't get it-nt

[markses]

23. I'm with the freepers on this one

We need more commons, not more copyright.

[Rationality]

28. I agree, but you know, if it doesn't cost anything to hit the site...

...why lift the articles? It's just not necessary on their/our part.

[imax2268]

24. Must be

catching...I busted two rightwingers on another site of out right plagiarism...they would cut and paste sections of articles to try and make a point...and they also like to copy and paste entire articles without including the authors names or the site that they got them from...

typical...they can't think for themselves so they have to rip someone elses work...

[hexola]

30. They seem to have a different "Free Speech" standard for Howard Stern...

Compare the comments on free speech regarding Stern vs. their own on copyright violations.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1114194/posts

...Can it, Howard. Free speech is not absolute. Never has been, never will be...

[Loonman]

31. The lazy jerks don't like to click links

Buncha clowns over there.

[Loonman]

32. The ignorant fools think they are being targetted

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1114163/posts

[bearfartinthewoods]

33. could it be that someone is going out of their way to alert

these newspapers to what the freeps are doing with the content? heeheeheeheehee :evilgrin: