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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:35 AM
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WTF? Scaife gave $2000 to Kerry for prez
get this, out of 100 or so donations he's made (legally) over the past 12 years, Kerry is the only Dem this evil overlord has ever given money to...with the exception of $500 to Murtha in 93.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=PA&last=Scaife&first=Richard
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:36 AM
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1. Probably covering his bases
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:37 AM
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2. interesting find...
...though i'm unsurprised
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:37 AM
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3. Who's Scaife?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:41 AM
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7. Scaife is the Republican Soros
He funded the Arkansas project and gives liberally to Conservative "Journalists" to go after Democrats.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:42 AM
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9. that is a SERIOUS insult to Soros
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:45 AM
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11. That's a fair point
since Soros gives to far fewer cranks and nuts. But just to get the idea across quickly it helps.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:36 AM
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18. Scaife is NOT the Republican Soros
Scaife's pocketbook was behind every dirty slander unleashed against Clinton. He funded the American Spectator, he owns his own newspaper in Philadelphia, and he is behind Newsmax somehow. He funded Ruddy's books on Vincent Foster and Ron Brown. He bankrolled Ken Starr, even at one point appointing him to a chair at some university as reward for his service on the Whitewater witch hunt. That was just before they discovered Linda Trip-- remember that the investigation was about to be closed down for lack of results when suddenly Starr decided to keep it open, turn down Scaife's job offer, and continue the investigation? It was right about this time that Trip began talking to Lewinski-- in other words, Starr kept open the investigation on Scaife's orders to prepare for the Monica trial.

Without him, Clinton would not have faced the organized slanders he faced, he would not have been impeached, and maybe just maybe the Republicans would have joined Clinton in fighting terrorism and we could have prevented 9-11.

Oh yeah, and he killed his brother and law and may have had a role in the suspicious death of an small-time investigative journalist found dead in his building.

If Soros is anywhere near that bad, let me know so I can stop approving of him, no matter what side he is on.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:39 AM
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4. He has enough to spread around ....
Does make you think tho' .....

Uh oh .... dem bones, dem skull and bones gonna come up again !
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:39 AM
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5. I wonder when that was
Scaife is no friend of the Democrats; so why would he donate to Kerry? Hmmmmmmm. Maybe because Senator Kerry is really an evil republocrat, and should be hung from the rafters?

Or maybe Scaife hoped the donation would come out and he's trying to trick us into turning away from Kerry, the greatest man of the 21st century.

Or maybe Scaife knew we'd see through his little ruse, and assume that he gave money to John Kerry to cause him problems. Thus he is able to give money to Kerry (Future Evil Overlord of America), knowing we would assume his support for Captain Evil isn't genuine.

Or maybe . . .

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:40 AM
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6. Ritchie is not Richard
She is the wife of Richard (despite being mis-identified as "Mr." in one of her contributions to Bush). And while it is odd, it was explained here previously, for what it's worth, that Ritchie and Theresa Heinz have a connection through service on some opera board of directors.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:42 AM
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8. Maybe she's as outraged by Bush as her husband was by Clinton
To sincere Republicans (as opposed to the greedy lying bastards who control the party) Bush is a disaster. Small government? Reduced spending? Foreign policy based on realpolitik? Honor and Integrity? For people who really believe in those things who can see through the spin, Bush fails on all counts.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:45 AM
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10. Scaife Through Various Channels Gives Bush & Co. MILLIONS
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 09:45 AM by cryingshame
so if his wife donates $2000, who cares?

It's like Giant Petroleum Conglomerate giving $1,000,000 to Democratic Candidates and $20,000.

Then Vulgar Pigboy can say, "Gee, even Democrats take money from Giant Petro!"
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:51 AM
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12. 2 kilobucks to Kerry, 2 kilobucks to Bush...
...sit back and laugh as the Liberal Message boards go "WTF?!?!?!?!?!"

2 kilobucks to Scaife is like the coins I leave on top of the dresser each night. Pennies. Nickels. Dimes. IOW, he gets than his money's worth watching us puzzle over it.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:52 AM
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13. As a gesture to...
Theresa. They undoubtedly know each other from P'burgh arts patronage and the simple act of being rich in a small city.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:53 AM
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14. Isn't it standard practice to give a pittance to the "other side" to make
the illusion of nonpartisanship plausible? Kerry has the stamp of approval from the corporate media so I don't know why this would surprise anyone.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:56 AM
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16. apparently not
Look at the list and tell me how many times they threw a pittance at anyone other than a puke.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:55 AM
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15. Chump-change so he can say he's "unbiased"
:(
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:04 AM
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17. John Kerry gets his money from the same corporations as Bush
Like it or not, that's the way things operate in our dear republic.

Until we decide to change things.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:47 AM
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19. Their Wives are Friends - see posts above
John Kerry gets his money from lots of sources that Bush will never see money from - environmental groups, etc etc. It is simplistic to say what you say. Yes I am all for changing things. I would like there to be NO DONOR MONEY involved in pres campaigns.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:53 AM
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20. That actually isnt nearly as true as it used to be.
Thats partly why the political atmosphere has changed so much. Many corporations and elites are no longer just funding anyone who sticks, they are funding only republicans. That is why Bush will have a ludicris monetary advantage in this election.

It would be very nice to get back to the days when corporations backed both sides. Then maybe we could work from there to decrease thier power.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:09 AM
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22. It would be better to change the campaign system entirely
Top to bottom. Equal time for all candidates, no corporate money period, because there would be no need for it.

A system that puts into office of president the person with the most money is high corruption on a massive scale. Kerry or Bush or whoever you are. This is what we must change.

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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:36 AM
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23. If the 'system' put whomever has the most money in office...
...we'd be looking at a Dean vs Bush match up right now, wouldn't we?

For that matter, we never would have had a President Clinton, but rather, a President Perot.

Yes, the public needs to watch campaign finance like a hawk, but it is an absolutely false assertion that money alone wins elections.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:58 AM
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21. It's Scaife's wife who is apparently a friend of Theresa
short piece on this:

How did a $2,000 check from the Scaife family end up in John Kerry's campaign account? Is Richard Mellon Scaife, notorious sugar daddy to the nut-fringe right, secretly a double agent for the left? Is Kerry's presidential campaign a diabolical plot by the hard right to divert early Democratic cash into a losing campaign? Is any of this connected to the deaths of Ron Brown and Vince Foster?

Actually, no. The donation comes from Scaife's wife of 12 years, Margaret "Ritchie" Battle Scaife. Ritchie Scaife has worked and socialized with Kerry's wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, on Pittsburgh's charity ball circuit—they co-chaired a capital campaign for the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and just this year worked together on the Pittsburgh Parks Conservancy's Spring Hat Luncheon. So, chalk this one up to the conspiracy of social class.

Ritchie Scaife also gave $1,000 to the Wish List, an organization that funds pro-choice Republican women who run for Congress. But this should be less of a shock. In a January 1999 interview with John Kennedy Jr. in George magazine, Richard Scaife revealed that he himself is pro-choice.

http://politics.msn.com/id/2092293/
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