no oath, no transcripts, in secret...this PROVES they were in on 9-11

[mopaul]

yes, i'm saying it again. i'm not stupid, i know what it means when bush and cheney avoided this commission for almost 3 years. i know they called daschle after 9-11 and told him to watch his ass about investigations, and then they sent him anthrax and killed a few folks to strengthen their threats.

i know why they are not under oath. they don't want the perjury trap. that could lead to impeachment, lying under oath. i know why there will be no transcripts. there is something they are hiding from we the people regarding 9-11. something awful.

i know why they are behind closed doors, the president and the vice president together, in secret. because...........they were in on it.

if you can't see it, it's because you DON'T want to.

end of insane rant

[nostamj]

1. you're wrong!

it's not 'insane' at all...

and please send that Fallujah/Guernica out to truthout, buzzflash, etc. needs to be SEEN.

[Hornito]

2. Insane rant? It's the truth. But people can't handle the truth!!

n/t

[bryant69]

3. It's the truth

In the sense that it's completely unproven, but fits our perceptions of how evil President Bush is.

Anybody who doesn't accept unverified Internet rumor as the gospel truth is a secret Bush Loving fascist and should be taken out back and kicked in the shins.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Hornito]

8. Completely unproven? I think not. There is a ton of circumstantial

evidence against the Bushies, of, at the very least, LIHOP. As far as MIHOP goes, there's not as much evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, but it's not a far stretch from LIHOP to MIHOP, tin foil or no!

The problem is, is that regardless of whether they did, or did not, participate in letting/making 9/11 happen, we'll sure as hell never find out from lame whitewash commissions and investigations. They know this. Anyone who accepts their explanations is an idiot, or worse. If they were being truthful, then they would not hesitate to testify, publicly, and under oath, and would not have fought a 9/11 investigation for three years. Period.

[bryant69]

13. Circumstantial evidence is no evidence

It just depends on how much you want to believe they are guilty of LIHOP. If you want to believe it can be very convincing; if you don't want to believe or you are neutral, it isn't that convincing.

And there are plenty of political reasons for them to resist the commission without having to resort to LIHOP. Clearly something went wrong on September 11th, and they want to make sure they aren't in the room when blame is assigned. That's certainly not very noble or heroic of them; but it is understandable.

[ElementaryPenguin]

14. Huh?? Since when is circumstantial evidence "no evidence?"

:shrug:

[bryant69]

19. Because it's interpetable

You interpret it the way you want; but that's not the only explanation for the evidence.

[BlueEyedSon]

4. It's "illustrative of something"....

to quote Brit Hume.

[Minstrel Boy]

5. Wake up, America!

Pull the narcotizing drip out of your arm. It's too late to connect the dots - the page has already been blackened with them.

Your enemy is not surrounding your country - your enemy is ruling your country!

[JayS]

11. I don't think Americans are all too interested in connecting...

...any dots unless they are arranged in an entertaining way and presented in a Made For TV special shown while nothing else good is on. Sad, but most likely true.

I created the post below about disturbing testimony in the current OK City bombing trial and it got nothing...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x54041

[Q]

6. Not 'insane' at all...

...and actually very perceptive. But...we should remind ourselves that Hitler was able to fool (and kill) millions of people before the world finally understood what was going on.

[Geo55]

7. Exclusive pic - BushCheney 911 testimony

[BeHereNow]

16. WELCOME TO DU!

LOVE the pic!
Thanks!
BHN

[Soloflecks]

9. Seen this yet?

http://www.americanfreepress.net/051302/FBI_Admits__No_Evidence_/fbi_admits__no_evidence_.html

After seven months of non-stop declarations by U.S. government spokesmen that there exists solid proof tying 19 Muslim men to plotting the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, FBI Director Robert Mueller has now admitted quite the opposite.

That 19 Muslim men who have apparently disappeared have been named as the hijackers is not in doubt.

What is in doubt is whether those 19 men were actually plotting anything, either individually or together.

The amazing possibility remains that others carried out the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, using the identities of the 19 Muslims who have been assigned guilt in the tragedy.

In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly:

In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper—either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere—that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot.
snip>
Mueller made this claim despite the fact that in the immediate wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, a variety of U.S. officials and media sources speciously announced, almost instantaneously, that there was firm evidence not only that these 19 Muslim men were agents of Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda “network” but that they were indeed the individuals who hijacked the doomed flights on Sept. 11.

Mueller seems to forget that early government and media reports loudly hyped “discoveries”—letters and other documents—in the luggage and personal belongings of the presumed hijackers which “proved” that they were on a “mission for Allah,” etc etc.

Now Mueller’s comments seem to contradict everything that’s been said.

[peekaloo]

10. AND the m*therf*cker is bringing his LEGAL COUNSEL!

[info being]

12. It's completely obvious

[lumpy]

15. Bush/Cheney brief 'visit' with the

commission is a complete farce. First came the refusal to submit to investigation by commission, conditional agreement= joint testimony, in secret, no public releases. Bush's twister-spinmeister considers it an 'opportunity' for Cheney and Bush to clarify their position 9/11.

[BeHereNow]

17. Those with nothing to hide...

Hide nothing.
BHN

[Cleita]

18. Nothing insane there MoPaul.

It's interesting that anthrax was also received by the offices of The National Enquirer. Since then no tabloidy stories about BushCo have been printed. Imagine what fun they could've had with the Condi Rice, husband guffaw if they hadn't been gagged.

[bigtree]

20. MSNBC SAID THAT THERE WERE NOTES TAKEN!!!!

RELEASE THEM NOW!!

[Geo55]

21. THERE WERE NOTES TAKEN

Afraid all you're gonna get is....National Security Issue..can't show ya

[Bjornsdotter]

22. Notes Taken?

Hi,

I heard that all notebooks were confiscated afterward, so the WH could be sure nothing confidential would be released.

I'm not sure if this is true....

Cheers,
Kim