Bush's "real" poll numbers are somewhere around 30%

[SoCalDem]

Think about it.. Remember during the impeachment, how it was always 60 something to 30 something?? and online polls (yes..I know they are unreliable, BUT..) they seem to be mostly 60+/30+.. with a small "undecided/idiotic"..

I just have this gut feeling that the 30% hard core repubes would vote for him if he executed Laura on live tv.....

The media has a vested interest to "make it close", even if it isn't. There is NO way to prove them wrong, so they just keep at it..

Remember our primary season? When the race was not close, they still made it seem as if it were close.. When the actual voting started, their "numbers" fell apart. ..

[Jack_Dawson]

1. I live in CA and nobody I know likes Bush

except a few older idiots at work but I don't hang out with them.

[Jacobin]

2. Hate to break it to ya

That may be true in California.

Those great Big Red States? The Bushistas are very quiet and unhappy, but they just loooooove ole Georgy and are privately cheering him on.......but not in the numbers they did before.

There are some defections, thank god, but it ain't over yet.

[tom_paine]

3. Agreed. We are surrounded by Soviet Pravda

How our once-Free, once-Proud Nation has fallen to be used as Toilet Paper by the Imperial Family!

[Sandpiper]

4. Elections for Incumbent Presidents usually aren't close

The poll numbers may be close for a while, but in the end, they usually either win big or lose big.

For Example:

Clinton - won big in 1996
Bush - lost big in 1992
Reagan - won big in 1984
Carter - lost big in 1980
Nixon - won big in 1972
Johnson - won big in 1964

I think the fact that Bush as an incumbent is only polling in 40s doesn't bode well for him, and Karl knows it.

[wyldwolf]

5. There was a post on the old DU last year - may have been a hoax...

..from someone who claimed to have access to some secret Canadian military research group who had Bush poll numbers in the 30s.

Don't recall the details. Can't vouch for the accuracy of it.