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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:51 AM
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A Kinder Gentler America: Rounding Up the Children of Iraq
Edited on Mon May-10-04 06:11 AM by Iceburg


Is America safer now?"

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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:53 AM
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1. Hand-cuffing little girls...

...that's pretty macho. This is probably one of Bush's favorite pics.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:01 AM
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2. an american black man, oppressing little girls
it outrages me that any american of any color or background would be in the business of oppression and genocide, with our so called love of liberty and democracy. we need to look deep into our souls.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:04 AM
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3. more





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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:06 AM
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4. I curse george bush
a curse is on our nation
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:22 AM
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6. I curse Rumsfeld esp. This is the text I put them with last week
Q: Mr. Secretary, you said, that for the most part, the detainees will be treated in a manner consistent with the Geneva Convention. Exactly which parts, which rights, privileges of the Geneva Convention will they have, and who will decide, and when will it be decided on an ad hoc basis? And just as a follow-up, can you say if there's been any --


Rumsfeld: Well, let me work on that one for a minute. That's a mouthful.



What we've said from the beginning is that these are unlawful combatants in our view, and we're detaining them. We call them detainees, not prisoners of war. We call them detainees. We have said that, you know, being the kind of a country we are, it's our intention to recognize that there are certain standards that are generally appropriate for treating people who were -- are prisoners are war, which these people are not, and -- in our view -- but there -- and, you know, to the extent that it's reasonable, we will end up using roughly that standard. And that's what we're doing. I don't -- I wouldn't want to say that I know in any instance where we would deviate from that or where we might exceed it. But I'm sure we'll probably be on both sides of it modestly.

Q:For instance, will we be allowed to see a list of exactly who the detainees are?

Rumsfeld: I don't know. I've got -- there are a bunch of lawyers who are looking at all these treaties and conventions and everything, trying to figure out what's appropriate. The only thing, I did notice that you can't take pictures of them. That's considered embarrassing for them, and they can't be interviewed, according to the Geneva Convention.



Myers: Let me add a couple --

Rumsfeld: Yeah, sure.

Myers: Let me just add a couple of things to that. We've got to remember that these are very, very dangerous people. And, as I think Charlie, you asked the first question about, well, why were they shackled? I mean, these are--

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Q: I'm just passing on the -- (off mike.)

Myers:Well, I'm not.

Rumsfeld: (Laughs.)

Myers: Charlie, I'm coming right back to you. I said you asked the question; I didn't say anything else. (Laughter.)

But if you remember the situation in Mazar --

Rumsfeld: A little sensitive!



Did you notice how sensitive Charlie is? (Laughs; laughter.) Do you want to stand up and give your full name and your organization? (Laughs; laughter.)

Myers: But if you remember the situation in Mazar, where the start of the rebellion was one of them that had explosives, a grenade or something, and killed himself, and it sort of started. I mean, these are people that would gnaw hydraulic lines in the back of a C-17 to bring it down. I mean, so this is -- these are very, very dangerous people, and that's how they're being treated.



At the same time, let me give you a little context on how they're going to be handled when they hit the -- Guantanamo Bay. The meals they're going to be served are going to be culturally appropriate for them. And so, I mean, we're going to try to do our best to treat them humanely, at the same time realizing that they're very, very dangerous people.




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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:27 PM
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10. Your kids might be next, you trouble making NAYSAYER!
Edited on Mon May-10-04 07:32 PM by Hubert Flottz
Rummy watched the 'Sands Of Iwo Jima' 39 times and John Wayne taught him everything he knew!

EDIT } Insert Laura Bush reading to the kids as they are dragged off and you've got the no child left behind act part II! I think I'd be fighting back too if I were their dad!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:10 PM
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16. "Laura Bush reading to the kids."
but only if it is from the Bible.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:18 AM
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5. Is there an URL where those photos can be located?
THANKS.

pnorman
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:18 PM
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7. Yes, here's a link
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:21 PM
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9. Thanks!
That also linked out to Information Clearing House, which contained the other pic I was trying to track down.

pnorman
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:24 PM
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8. I think I'm gonna hurl....
...what in the name of Buddha is going on here???

These pictures are just as obscene as the torture pictures....

Will Pitt is right....the war IS lost....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:56 PM
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11. Kick!
I can't get those pictures out of my head! These People in Washington are PIGS!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:00 PM
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12. I remember when these types of pictures came out.
At least a few DUers thought it was prudent because you never know, "those people" might stick a bomb in their childrens clothing.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:03 PM
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14. Bush should have left these people alone!
This is all over a hand full of lying scumbags!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:01 PM
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13. Oh my god, they train the terrorists early! And who photographs these?
God praise President Bush's valiant war against terrorism and all the evil people who commit such acts.

</sarky>

:puke:

This is almost as bad as the pics of the adult men being molested...

Many of these pics that end up for the American public to see... these pics almost seem to be staged. WHY would anybody allow a photographer to take a picture of a soldier handcuffing a gaggle of girls?! More blackmail? I doubt the soldier was doing this to protect the girls... :eyes:

The girls look pissed. I can't blame them.

Something is seriously, seriously wrong...
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:08 PM
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15. The new Al-Qaeda recruiting method. One big soldier -
one little girl, one set cuffs. 'Nuff said


(Horsey, Seattle PI)


GOD I AM SO SICKENED BY THIS. :cry:
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