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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:11 AM
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Kerry needs to exploit Bush self-destruct!
The news from Iraq's Abu Ghraib Prison should drive the final stake in the Bush Administration's heart. Yet like some Hollywood monster that just won't die it keeps on rising from what should be its political grave.

True, the "liberal" media keeps giving Dubya and company passes on topics it would crucify a Democratic administration on, but the Kerry campaign needs to exploit this current situation to the fullest. Why can't Kerry take off the gloves and act like the ballsy Navy lieutenant portrayed in his commercials.

A recent LA Times story gives cause for some concern:

Michael Genovese, a political science professor at Loyola Marymount University and the author of 14 books on the presidency, said Kerry's cautious responses to the recent insurgency and the prisoner abuses had only further blurred his position for voters.
(-snip-)
Earlier last week, Kerry did not call on Bush to apologize for the incidents until after he was repeatedly pressed on the matter.

Let me just assure you that if I were president, we'd have a very different set of activities going on in Iraq today," Kerry told reporters during a stop in Northeast Los Angeles on Wednesday.

"But would you apologize?" he was asked.

"I'd want to get the facts and hold the people accountable and make the appropriate statements…. I said we ought to take appropriate responsibility," Kerry said. "If that means apologizing for the behavior of the soldiers when that happens, then I think we ought to do that."
(-snip-)


Of Kerry, author Kevin Phillips offered this observation to Bill Moyers on the April 9 edition of NOW With Bill Moyers:"I don't have a sense that he has a sense of the jugular. I think he sort of has the Democratic establishment sense of the capillaries. You know, they hate to go in there and really strike hard because they're not sure enough of themselves."

Kerry was not my first choice. In fact at the single rally I've so far attended for him, his stump speech was deadly dull. Yet four more years of the Bush Cartel will ruin this country, so we need to get Kerry in The White House and recapture at least one of the houses of Congress.

In some respects Kerry doesn't need to campaign now because Bush and company are their own worst enemy but he definitely needs to focus his message.

I backed both Dennis Kuchinich and Howard Dean, as a precinct captain, because they powerfully and sincerely articulated their convictions. Kerry must start doing the same.

What can we do to light a fire under this man?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:15 AM
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1. No, Kerry needs to keep quiet wihile * bleeds.
Cardinal rule of politics - When your opponent is bleeding, keep quiet.
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:19 AM
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2. Got no problem with that.
Edited on Mon May-10-04 09:20 AM by BJ
Remember I did say:"In some respects Kerry doesn't need to campaign now because Bush and company are their own worst enemy..."

But when the dust over Abu Ghraib settles I'd like to see a John Kerry with a little more Howard Dean-like feistiness in him.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:26 AM
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3. ACT as Kerry's surrogate
Bush uses surrogates to speak for him while he remains above the fray and that includes all of his dirty political smears.

Instead of waiting for the media or Kerry or someone else to speak up about this, WRITE a letter to your local paper today. Speak up where your local people are; if your local paper doesn't necessarily print your letter, take out a display or classified ad. Don't wait on others to speak up, ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:27 AM
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4. Kerry is speaking out - Listen Up!
I am getting tired of posting this on every "John Kerry is doing nothing" thread, several of which quote this "brilliant" Loyola professor. Frankly, this LATIMES piece has Karl Rove's "backgrounder" fingerprints all over it IMHO. At any rate, try these:

Kerry Says He Would Demand Accountability
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=2&u=/ap/20040506/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_prisoner_abuse

Kerry Hits Bush's Commander-In-Chief Performance
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&ncid=696&e=1&u=/nm/20040506/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc

Kerry: Peace Corps Can Help Heal Iraqi Abuse Damage
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=696&e=5&u=/nm/20040508/us_nm/campaign_kerry_dc

A Kerry message starts to break through
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/05/09/a_kerry_message_starts_to_break_through?pg=full

John Kerry Responds To Personal Attack Campaign, Iraqi Prisoner Abuse, Diversity Outreach and Tax Relief on "Tavis Smiley" To Air Tonight On PBS
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0506b.html

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:40 AM
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7. I don't like the strategy. Trying to prove a negative is seldom effective
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:36 AM
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5. To Win Wars, you fight them on your own terms..Not when someone is
Edited on Mon May-10-04 09:37 AM by Tellurian
attempting to draw you in to "their" version of the War..

Kerry has to see that the Bush administration is blindsided once again with unanimously despicable issues...

Several issues would do it..

...Revelations of the Energy papers.

...Bush's broadening of Executive Powers.

...Bush designating Americans as Enemy combatants and
shipping them off to N.C. until processing to a detainment camp.

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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:37 AM
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6. Duh Kerry is speaking and it is hitting political section of papers
And even the CNN corporate whore web:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/06/kerry.abuse/index.html

Just no one is listening. I guess not even my fellow Dems.

He did this before he waited for the Repuke self-destruct and then began bashing Bush on the war when things got hot.

That is what he does all the time.

Calm down people. The fire is there but everyone has put the wet clothes over their eyes.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:42 AM
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8. kerry is doing fine. what i do see is
what i am hearing is dont want bush, but dont want kerry

this has to be shaken up now. and kerry's record we can. bush has so dissed kerry and that is what the people know. so now when i hear someone say they arent impressed with kerry, sweetly and with smile i am going to ask why.

and when they start saying out loud what rove has fed, i am going to show the lie in it. and i am going to share some of the good stuff i know about kerry. and start shifting from there

bush can continue to destroy self, and we can raise kerry up
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:51 AM
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9. Good strategy - and check this thread
for stuff to say:

List 'Em- DIFFERENCES Between Bush and Kerry

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1568451
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:27 AM
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10. That's all well and good.
All I'm asking is that John Kerry recapture that passion he displayed in 1971 when, in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee he said:"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

That was a defining moment.

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