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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:12 PM
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Why is the question of how many videos and pictures should be released
even being discussed?

Release it all, and release it now.

Funny.

The Republicans tried their best to have pictures of Clinton's dick slayed all across over computer monitors and daily newspapers.

They wanted Monica Lewinsky to describe in graphic detail, all on live television, how much she enjoyed sucking on the Clenis.

Come to think of it, they probably wanted her to act it out too. Just for the full effect.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:14 PM
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1. I agree..and some of the justifications for withholding the pics
even on this board are so transparent as to be laughable.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:47 PM
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11. Transparent being the key word here
Bush* just made a big deal about how we would deal with this in a Transparent manner. If everything is hidden from view it ain't very damn transparent.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:18 PM
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2. Because it would f*^k with the beautiful minds of Pickles and Barbara?
Oooh, and we couldn't have that now could we?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:19 PM
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3. Agreed
First heard the new spin last night.


Also thought it was odd that the vulgar pi*man would ask us, "who among us has never done something that they wouldn't want the world to see or hear about?" (Like cheating on a spouse?)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:21 PM
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4. I'm feeling ashamed of wasting so much of my time and energy
on a suspect thread. I feel so dirty....so dirty!

This is a non-issue injected into our forums to distract us. ANd I took the bait!
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:55 PM
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12. Don't be, CST...
Even when you know you're talking to a brick wall (or was it a broken record?), certain points have to be made somewhere -- and threads like to the one to which you allude give us the opportunity to make those points -- points which we might otherwise assume everybody takes for granted.

I figure there's always the chance I'll make a dent in the mind of some fence-sitting lurker. After all, there are legions of freepers reading this right now, and -- hard as it may be to believe at times -- we know for a fact that some of them do get worn down sooner or later by constant exposure to genuine thought. (Hi, freepers! :hi: Vote Kerry!)

Just assume you probably did some good somewhere, CST -- you just may never know about it.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:57 PM
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13. Thanks Sapphocrat!
That makes me feel like I didn't stress in vain. I guess my signature line is true! Thanks Trane!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:21 PM
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5. They are soooo terrified about what will happen if the American
public sees worse than they already have. Look how bad it's gotten over what's already been released. And they sure as hell don't want pictures of 'sexual activity' being seen. Because that's what interests and infuriates their base the most, genitalia and what it's used for. They couldn't give a damn about fifty dead babies lying in a mudhole blown to shit, but show them some Iraqi males screwing teenagers, or a tough guy civilian contractor raping a female, and the fundies will just lose their minds.

That's what they're afraid of.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:29 PM
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6. These same folks were afraid of Black men and White women 50 years ago
And even now
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:34 PM
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7. To release them is to shatter well nurtured illusions
and some people would move heaven and hell to prevent that.

Keeping Americans ignorant is a must in order to keep people like Bush in control...

the truth not only sets people free..it sets nations free as well.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:39 PM
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8. I'm not in favor of releasing. How would you like, as a victim, to know
that your degradation is on every paper in the world and on the internet 24/7? I don't want to re-victimize the victims. Use them
in trials, tell about them. Don't release them. For godsake, this
is a culture that practices honor killings. And, what about the
poor guys that are being shamed? Who are we to do it to them twice?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:01 PM
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15. you're damn right I'd want the pictures EVERYWHERE if it was me
Edited on Mon May-10-04 07:02 PM by thebigidea
You honestly think people who were tortured would want things covered up, as if it never happened?

"poor guys"?

"being shamed"?

You're the one who should be ashamed for wanting to sweep torture under the rug. Ugh.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:05 PM
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16. Andre to the rescue!!!
:hi:

:loveya:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:17 PM
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17. really? Well, since you are the one choosing for others, maybe you
might want to ASK them if they want this? If they do, fine. But it seems to me that we tortured them WITHOUT their permission. We might
want to ASK them if they want to be on EVERY FRONT PAGE IN THE UNIVERSE! After all, if they don't have a say, then its a screw job all over again. But then, don't listen to me. I'm too busy being ashamed.

SHIT!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:24 PM
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19. You might want to read the interviews of those photographed
Edited on Mon May-10-04 07:27 PM by thebigidea
Not a one thus far seems to complain about the pictures hitting the media.

Funnily enough, they seem more upset at their torturers and America.

You asked how I would like it, I answered. I would hope that if such things happened to me, people would care a tiny bit.

If I ever find out that you were tortured and pictures of it somehow came into my hands, I'll be sure to destroy the evidence immedeately and not breathe a word about it. You can count on me!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:40 PM
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9. Re: Monica
I've always wondered why she gave so much detail to the pigs who questioned her. How could they possibly have verified any of it? I probably would have denied the whole thing, saying I simply had a crush on BC and lied to Linda Tripp. But that's just me.
:hi: cat!!!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:59 PM
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14. I've always thought that it was a combination of being naive and scared
Because those witch hunters can be quite scary sometimes, and that she probably felt slighted by Clinton and wanted to pay him back.

I curse that fucking blue dress.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:22 PM
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18. Kathy!!
:hi:
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Harrumph Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:41 PM
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10. My God, CW, you are making me blush.
I like that in a woman!
:evilgrin:
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