What the Hell is going on! I get up this a.m. and Chalabi's House is

[KoKo]

Surrounded and troops have put a gun to his head. Israel sent a missile into a Palestininan settlement (and this is after killing Palestininan protestors yesterday) and after our shooting an Iraqi Wedding Party.

Are Sharon and Bush working together? Why are we behaving like thugs going after our "pet boy" Chalabi all of a sudden in such a dramatic way.

Why didn't Cheney and Wolfowitz just bring him to Washington to have a talk with him?

What's with all these theatrics going on. Should we be afraid that Chimp has come "unhinged" along with Sharon, or should we just figure the world has gone mad and turn off all news, including our computers?

Every day now there's some new bizarre event which makes no sense. It seems no "adults" are in charge anywhere except in France, Germany, and Spain.

How long can this maddness go on? :nuke:

EDIT: Oops! This is a Dupe. MoPaul is as upset as I am and already has a post. Sorry.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. We also took Chalabi off the payroll.

[mopaul]

9. we were giving chalabi 40,000 a month for years and years

chalabi is a crazy man, and now he's fucked with the wrong crazy people. the bush's

[underpants]

12. mopaul you forgot to carryt he 1-------- $400,000

Actually $350,000 to $400,000 but hey whats $50K to a convicted fraud anyway huh?

[BlueEyedSon]

19. $340,000

[KoKo]

2. This is a Dupe. "MoPaul" is as angry as I am. Continue on his thread.

Mods, please lock.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1630519&mesg_id=1630519

[mopaul]

15. angry minds think alike

this ain't a dupe, it's just liberals in general are angry and just have to say it. finally.

we could use more righteous indignation. call it bush fatigue.

[Mel]

3. Did you see this story?

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/neocon_lets_cat_out_of_bag.php

Neocon Lets Cat Out of Bag
Robert Dreyfuss

May 19, 2004

<snip>Michael Rubin—a young staffer at the American Enterprise Institute who’s just left the Pentagon, where he played a small role as a neocon cog in the Office of Special Plans war machine—let a herd of cats out of the bag about his favorite Iraqi phony, Ahmad Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress.</snip>

<snip>"By telegraphing that he is not the favorite son of America, the administration will bolster him, showing he is his own man."</snip>

<snip>In other words, it’s all a big con game. The still-neocon-dominated Pentagon—which this week stopped funding Chalabi’s INC —is playing its last card, hoping that it can boost Chalabi’s sagging fortunes by pretending to sever ties with him. That, the neocons hope, will allow Chalabi to strengthen his ties to Sistani, the king-making mullah who, they hope, holds Iraq’s fate in his wrinkled hands.</snip>

[calimary]

5. Poo! Link doesn't work.

Considering how these guys play, I am NOT surprised.

[KoKo]

6. Thanks for the snip. Unbelievable! Isn't that adding "insult to injury!"

They use Chalabi's false info to invade a country then they "fake" cutting ties in front of the whole world so that he will "seem" to be discredited with the US so he "fool" the Iraqi's into thinking he should run their country?

Seems the Iraqi's are smarter than the Chimp & Co. thought. They've given us a Hell of alot of trouble. I doubt they will fall for this stunt, like we here in America will. (not us, but the average Joe/Jane).

[Mel]

18. It's the same old refried-boogie

with these people is what it is. I swear, I don't get how the American people(average Joe/Jane) keep falling for it! arrrgh! These 'International Gangsters' near about to the letter run the same old sham. Enough is enough!

All I can say is we need to get the word out like we haven't been trying.:eyes:I swear some days I just want to break something ;)
We have the Internet (blogs) Air America Radio now so that's in our favor. We need to just slam it out there over and over. Notice how it comes so fast it's hard to slam it over and over for having to deal with another pile of BS they throw at us?
That's alright though they are only making me more angry and determined to stop them. I need an icon for I've had it up to here!

[Joanne98]

10. I think we should start a yearly academy award for the best

Performance by a politician.

[leftchick]

17. well that is just absurd!

Like all of the other plans the neo-cons have this one will blow up in their faces as well. They always underestimate the intelligence of people outside of their own little coterie of kool-aid drinkers.

[OneBlueSky]

4. Bush has been unhinged for a long time . . .

and it really doesn't matter all that much since he's not the one calling the shots . . . my hunch is that Cheney is the puppeteer pulling the strings, but he has a lot of help from his stable of corporatist and theocratic freaks . . . my concern is what they'll be telling Bush to do between now and Election Day . . . you can rest assured that it will include something big and bold (and very likely incredibly stupid) that's designed to keep BushCo in power come November . . .

[KoKo]

7. I wonder if the average Germans felt like this when Hitler was running

the country. Every day you are told your country is great...the greatest on earth, and just don't pay attention to those boxcars filled with people going by in the day and night, and ignore the smell of burning flesh and the disappearance of folks who used to live in your neighborhood. They've just gone on long holidays. Ignore your children being indoctrinated in those "patriotic camps"...it's all done for the "Homeland" and ignore the emblems that one wears, (flag lapel pins),to prove you are part of the faithful.

Ignore what your eyes and ears and senses tell you. Americans are a "great, loving, and giving people." We are at war but "hug your neighbor and visit a shut in." (Bush quote)

[htuttle]

11. Yes Indeed

I always used to wonder how the German people could have allowed Hitler to do what he did.

I don't wonder anymore.

[zanana]

14. htuttle--I'm so glad you said it first.

Ever since I learned about the Holocaust in school, I've wondered what could take a nation full of "good" people and turn them into immoral, heartless people. I think we know now that a tone is set. Large corporations are given even more power and little accountability, propaganda parades as "news", patriotism is fueled, nationalism thrives and the press is muzzled. No, Bush isn't just like Hitler, but he does have fascist tendencies. We didn't believe this country could be attacked on such a large scale, but it was. We don't believe that fascism exists in this country, but it does.

[Mel]

21. Nor do I 'wonder how the Germans let it happen'

and I make no bones about telling people just that. We are in deep doo!

[AntiCoup2K4]

23. Believe it or not......

....there are some German people who still believe Hitler began with noble intentions and just "got out of control" somehow. They choose to ignore the fact that he spelled out his plans explicitly in Mein Kampf and look to Hitler-directed inventions such as the Autobahn and Volkswagen to claim that, at least initially, Adolf only had the best of intentions.

I have heard similar rationalizations for Junior already. People claiming that he really is a "good Christian man" who was "decieved by the neocons". Never mind that all those neocons worked for his own father. Never mind that as the alleged "pResident", it's his fucking job to know whether or not his people are feeding him complete lies, and to overrule them when their plans get recklessly out of control - as President Kennedy did when presented with the 9-11 prequel "Operation Northwoods", which would have blamed terrorist attacks on Cuba.

Both the Germans and the American right wingers in this case are simply trying to absolve their own guilt in allowing such a vile piece of shit to come to power in the first place. In each case, they are in the minority, thank God.

[htuttle]

8. Something big and bold and *robust*!

Don't forget robust!

[underpants]

13. CORRUPTION?!?!............In IRAQ?!?!?!?!

A tiger?!?!?....in AFRICA?!??!!?

[Shopaholic]

16. I'm not real up on members of the Iraqi governing council

but wasn't this guy Cheney's bitch. . err. . boy?

[underpants]

20. Chalabi was THE source of all the "inside" WMD info

Since publicly stated by the DIA (Defense Intel Agency) to be false. Chalabi also provdied all the former "insiders" who all said exactly the same thing as if scripted. ON EDIT-Chalabi hadn't been in Iraq in 20 years but supposedly knew Aaaaaaaaaaaall about the WMD programs.

WE (you and me) have been paying the Iraqi National Congress (Chalabi's organization) $350,000 to $400,000 per MONTH for about the last two years.

He was convisted in absentia of fraud in Jordan in '92. H eset up a bank (thru Switzerland) and then loaned all the money in the bank to himself (one step away) or his brother then all the loans were defaulted on.....oops sorry we no longer have your money.

[Mel]

22. Yep and the same one feeding

media whore Judith Miller NY Times, who btw hasn't lost her job!