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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:45 AM
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Bush running from CHALABI faster than he ran from KEN LAY
Edited on Thu May-20-04 11:10 AM by jackstraw45
Guess we now know why Perle was ousted...

This is a BIG BIG BIG scandal brewing folks.

Nickname in White House for one of Chalabi's aides?

Curveball.

:crazy:

Pre-war, the State department KNEW that Chalabi was a crook but appears to have been overruled by DOD (Wolfowitz, Perle) and Cheney.

See this article:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-08-chalabi-icover-usat_x.htm

Remember, this is April 2003:

"State Department officials have repeatedly labeled Chalabi untrustworthy. They say he has yet to account for half of $4 million in funds for an intelligence collection project in Iraq that the State Department suspended and the more Chalabi-friendly Pentagon took responsibility for in 2002."



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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:48 AM
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1. I'm not sure I follow.
Why would Bush be afraid of Chalabi? I haven't had coffee yet.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:49 AM
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3. Police raided his home and HQ - he stole millions...just like LAY
Edited on Thu May-20-04 10:50 AM by jackstraw45
A strech I know but I get a chuckle.

Heard on the news that the administration is already "distancing" themselves from Chalabi.

Sound familiar?
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:48 AM
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2. Can't spell LIABility without chaLABI
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:53 AM
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4. the big difference is
that Bush couldn't blow Lay up. Chalabi is in a war zone with no laws. His life is over. His best choice now is to join the insurgents and chase us out.

This should be an interesting study of the world of crime, power, betrayal, and stupidity. Who will win?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:58 AM
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5. Read Perle from pre-war 2003
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/issue_mayjune_2003/debate.html

"We have Ahmed Chalabi, chief of the opposition Iraqi National Congress, to enter Baghdad. Ending the current Iraqi regime will liberate the Iraqis. We will leave both governance and oil in their hands. We will hand over power quickly—not in years, maybe not even in months—to give Iraqis a chance to shape their own destiny. "


Bushco gave Chalabi and his group over $28,000,000.

I smell ANOTHER SCANDAL for this crooked administration.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:07 AM
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9. $28M thats
the price for bearing false witness these days. Shame on you SHRUBCO*.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:27 PM
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15. wonder how many armor plates $28M could have bought
to protect our troops before they were sent off to war?
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:01 AM
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6. It's a scam
Bushco knows Chalabi is doomed if he looks like he is too cozy with the occupiers. So, they (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) "ransack" his house. It's all about street cred.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:05 AM
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7. Here's a different perspective
Mel posted this earlier today.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/neocon_lets_cat_out_of_bag.php

Neocon Lets Cat Out of Bag
Robert Dreyfuss

May 19, 2004

<snip>Michael Rubin—a young staffer at the American Enterprise Institute who’s just left the Pentagon, where he played a small role as a neocon cog in the Office of Special Plans war machine—let a herd of cats out of the bag about his favorite Iraqi phony, Ahmad Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress.</snip>

<snip>"By telegraphing that he is not the favorite son of America, the administration will bolster him, showing he is his own man."</snip>

<snip>In other words, it’s all a big con game. The still-neocon-dominated Pentagon—which this week stopped funding Chalabi’s INC —is playing its last card, hoping that it can boost Chalabi’s sagging fortunes by pretending to sever ties with him. That, the neocons hope, will allow Chalabi to strengthen his ties to Sistani, the king-making mullah who, they hope, holds Iraq’s fate in his wrinkled hands.</snip>






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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:06 AM
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8. Ken who?
Kenny boy, um I mean Ken Lay? Never heard of him!
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pleft Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:07 AM
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10. The administration is only doing this because...
it is the only way to make him acceptable to the Iraqi people. Everyone knows that the first governor of Iraq must appear to be independent from the US....This is part of the larger game of making Chalabi a hero and acceptable to the American people. Don’t think for a minute that he is still the favorite son of Cheney ed. Al.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:19 AM
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11. The Pentagon can't account for two trillion dollars and they have the nerv
to ask for accountability over four million dollars. :shrug: Up is down and right is wrong. What a world we live in.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:22 AM
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12. $28,000,000 actually...
It was $4,000,000 a few years ago.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:40 AM
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13. This guy, Chalabi, proves how stupid the people running this
country are. For them to even believe what he said without independent verification proves it. I am listening to Bernie Ward on CNN right now about this. He is blaming Dick Cheney for being the main Chalabi, patsy. It's too bad they weren't reading DU back then. They would have known then what a crook Chalabi is.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:41 AM
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14. Congressional Democrats better wake up
and jump on this story before the cover-up is finished.

A few aside, have you ever seen such a LIMP Congress?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:39 PM
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16. Does this have anything to do with Powell's MTP performance?
Isn't it strange that shortly after Powell basically admitted that the "intelligence" used to justify the invasion was false, they all of a sudden decide to go after the guy who provided it?
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:58 PM
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17. Agree with Central Scrutinizer
Chalabi is disliked among Iraqis, and Washington wants him in a key position of power. Perhaps the President of Iraq. It is important that the US appear to be distancing itself from Chalabli for Chalabi to gain support from the Iraqi people. If Chalabi becomes an apparent outcast from the US, he gains more legitamacy among the Iraqi people.

They are trying to spin this in DC as an action of the Iraqi police, but the police are saying they were ordred to do this by Americans. Question is why? Of what use would the US have to do this? What would the Iraqi police do it for?

We still have not been told who is being handled power to on June 30th. My guess is there must be a phenomenal amount of wheeling and dealing behind doors at present. Rememeber the head of the Iraqi governing council was just killed. He's out. My guess is they're moving toward Chalabi, and are going to feign some problems with him to get the Iraqi people to buy into appointing him.
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