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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:05 PM
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JEB Bush - - BFEE Kingmaker & Big-Time Crook
The election’s less than six months away. To help ensure a fair election, it makes sense to spread the truth about what kind of people make up the Bush Organized Crime Family. Here's a bit on the "brains" of the new generation.

Jeb Bush is friends with terrorists, drug-dealers and election stealers.

Want to know more? Here’s a little dope:



The Bush Family's Bloody Pals
Florida a Sanctuary for Terrorists


by Jack McCarthy

Florida is not only a sanctuary for retirees and tourists. It is also a haven for terrorists, some retired some still active.

Now Florida doesn't harbor the kinds of terrorists who would interest our bumbling "Homeland Security" inspector Tom Ridge mind you.

These are the kinds of terrorists who would be welcomed at a backyard BBQ thrown those WASP Sopranos, the Bush family.

CONTINUED…

http://www.counterpunch.org/mccarthy0709.html


The Bush Dynasty and the Cuban Criminals
New book reveals links of two presidents and the governor of Florida with exiled hardliners


by Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles

The brother of President George Bush, the Florida governor, Jeb Bush, has been instrumental in securing the release from prison of militant Cuban exiles convicted of terrorist offences, according to a new book. The Bush family has also accommodated the demands of Cuban exile hardliners in exchange for electoral and financial support, the book suggests.

Last year, after September 11, while the justice department announced a sweep of terrorist suspects, Cubans convicted of terrorist offences were being released from US jails with the consent of the Bush administration, according to the book, Cuba Confidential: Love and Vengeance in Miami and Havana, by Ann Louise Bardach, the award-winning investigative journalist who has covered Cuban and Miami politics for the New York Times and Vanity Fair.

The Bush family connections go back to 1984 when Jeb Bush began a close association with Camilo Padreda, a former intelligence officer with the Batista dictatorship overthrown by Fidel Castro.

Jeb Bush was then the chairman of the Dade county Republican party and Padreda its finance chairman. Padreda had earlier been indicted on a $500,000 (£320,000) embezzlement charge along with a fellow exile, Hernandez Cartaya, but the charges were dropped, reportedly after the CIA stated that Cartaya had worked for them.

CONTINUED…

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1202-05.htm


The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: Part III
A Black-List Burning for Bush: The Unreported Story of How They Fixed the Vote in Florida


EXCERPT…

Especially with a President named “Bush.” ChoicePoint’s board, executive suite and consultant rosters are packed with Republican stars, including former New York Police Commissioner Howard Safir and former ultra-Right congressman Vin Weber, ChoicePoint’s Washington lobbyist.

Thursday, 2 a.m., December 7, 2000. On the other end of the line, heavy breathing, then a torrent of words too fast for me to catch it all. “Vile . . . lying . . . inaccurate . . . pack of nonsense . . . riddled with errors . . .” click! This was not a ChoicePoint whistleblower telling me about the company’s notorious list. It was Choice- Point’s own media communications representative, Marty Fagan, communicating with me about my “sleazy disgusting journalism” in reporting on it.

Truth is, Fagan was returning my calls. I was curious about this company that chose the president for America’s voters.

They had quite a pedigree for this solemn task. The company’s Florida subsidiary, Database Technologies (now DBT Online), was founded by one Hank Asher. When U.S. law enforcement agencies alleged that he might have been associated with Bahamian drug dealers -- although no charges were brought -- the company lost its data management contract with the FBI. Hank and his friends left and so, in Florida’s eyes, the past is forgiven.

SNIP…

“They” is Florida State, not ChoicePoint. Let’s not get confused about where the blame lies. Harris’s crew lit this database fuse, then acted surprised when it blew up. Swedlund says ChoicePoint had a professional responsibility to tell the state to test the list; ChoicePoint says the state should not have used its “raw” data.

CONTINUED…

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=15363



FDLE hires former drug smuggler

The computer expert with strong ties to law enforcement will help the state track terrorists.


By LUCY MORGAN
St. Petersburg Times
published August 2, 2003

TALLAHASSEE - In an attempt to identify potential terrorists, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is using the services of a former drug smuggler turned millionaire.

Hank Asher, 48, a computer technology expert who lives in a $3-million Boca Raton house, has founded several companies that retrieve huge amounts of electronic information about individuals.

He also has become a close friend to former FDLE director James T. "Tim" Moore.

"Hank Asher has done more to facilitate intelligence and information sharing for police in the country than anyone I've ever known. He's a patriot, a true friend," Moore told recently told the crowd at his FDLE retirement party.

CONTINUED…

http://www.sptimes.com/Channel10/2003/08/02/State/FDLE_hires_former_dru.htm

Please put in a kick to the pants of the Bush Organized Crime Family with your own articles and examples of Jebthro's criminality. Remember, only YOU can prevent more wars of the BFEE!



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:09 PM
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1. Watched Jeb on TV last night, excusing all the failing schools here.
I watched his eyes, his expressions. They are cold and heartless. I fear him as much as his brother.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:27 PM
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3. See what you mean.
Or, mean is his see.



Wow. Well, if I had his Poppy and Babs'm I might end up the same way.

Still, he DOES have creepy peepers.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:34 PM
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4. Oooh, you must have captured that from the TV news I saw! Creepy.
I do NOT think people realize he is actually more dangerous than his brother. He is smarter and cares nothing for charisma.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:41 PM
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6. The banality of evil.
NAZIs at work



Source: http://www.ushmm.org/research/doctors/two.htm

Apart from the peepers, the guy looks almost normal. The things he's done and the people he knows are anything but. They are world-class criminals, murderers and traitors. Associating with such must run in the family.

Terrorist Connections Resurface In Florida

by Jane Franklin; June 29, 2002

Governor Jeb Bush is about to choose a Florida State Supreme Court judge. There are five finalists and his deadline is August 12. Since there is no Hispanic on the Court, most people expect Jeb Bush will want to name a Hispanic. There is only one Hispanic among the finalists. That one Hispanic is of course a Cuban- American. He is Raoul Cantero III, a corporate lawyer for a Miami firm, Adorno & Yoss--the only one of the five who is not a judge.

Governor Jeb Bush might consider it more important for a Supreme Court judge to have Cantero's experience working for Hank Adorno, who had a long association with the family businesses of Jorge Mas Canosa and his son Jorge Mas Santos, late chair and current chair, respectively, of the Cuban American National Foundation, the wealthiest and most influential right-wing Cuban-American organization.

Is Raoul Cantero ready to enforce the law even against Cuban- American terrorists? This is a matter of major importance because terrorism against Cuba is one of the issues that confronts the Florida court system with astonishing regularity. The U.S. Neutrality Act forbids launching military expeditions from U.S. territory against any nation with which the United States is at peace. Nevertheless, in Florida, the prevailing jurisprudence is that it's o.k. to commit terrorist acts against Cuba. In Florida courts, those who carry out armed attacks against Cuba are treated as freedom fighters. Contrariwise, anyone tried for attempting to find out about those plans and warn Cuba about them is quite likely to end up in prison, as have five Cubans recently sentenced to long prison terms, including life behind bars.

Now that White House Resident George Bush is supposedly waging a War on Terror, one might think that brother Jeb would not want to select anyone with a record that suggests approval of terrorism.

This one Hispanic on the final list for Florida's Supreme Court just happens to be the grandson of former Cuban dictator, General Fulgencio Batista. And his father served under Batista as an intelligence officer in the Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities or BRAC, notorious for torture and assassination. Of course it would not be fair to assume that Raoul Cantero shares the politics of his father and his grandfather Batista. But his own record indicates that he is continuing the family tradition of favoring terrorism against the Cuban people.

CONTINUED...

http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=2049§ionID=40





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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 03:56 PM
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29. he's a tad smarter than the chimp
so i fear him MORE. they're ALL a heartless bunch, learned it at mama bar's knee.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 05:22 PM
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30. Even Frank Rich of The New York Times has noticed...
From his review of "Fahrenheit 911"...

"But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer."

-- Barbara Bush
on "Good Morning America," March 18, 2003.

http://www.iht.com/articles/521066.html
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:18 PM
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2. Never, ever take your eyes off Jeb!
This guy is up to his armpits in the worst of the crime family's vile business.

"Jeb Bush seized flight school records at 2 AM on September 12."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1328855

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:35 PM
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5. Thanks for the reminder. Now THERE's a thread worth bookmarking!
Why the long face, Jebthro?



Thanks to your Big Brother, you're lucky to be out of jail.

Oh, well. Hope springs eternal, eh?


Kevin Phillips, Author of "American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush"

A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW


"Now what I get a sense of from all of this -- and then topped obviously by spending all the money in 2000 to basically buy the election -- is that this is not a family that has a particularly strong commitment to American democracy. Its sense of how to win elections comes out of a CIA manual, not out of the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution."
-- Kevin Phillips

SNIP...

BuzzFlash: The title of your new book is "American Dynasty." You make the argument that the return of George W. Bush to the presidency restores, in essence, a Bush dynasty. What is wrong with that?

Kevin Phillips: Well, dynasties are something that the United States came into being fighting against. We have George III in 1775 and 1776. I don't see any reason why, in the last 25 years, we should have George I and George II, and think about Jeb I and so forth. It's pernicious, almost, by definition of what America's all about. It's doubly pernicious when you start thinking about the legacy of economic politics and bias, the legacy of association with the national security state intelligence agencies, the legacy of involvement in the Middle East in a way that may send some horrible chickens coming home to roost. I just don't think there's anything good about a dynasty in this country at all.

BuzzFlash: You frequently reference European dynasties in the book -- and as you mentioned, we rebelled against one of those. You mentioned the Hapsburgs, the Stuarts, the Bourbons, and so forth. Every dynasty had its characteristics of rule. You spend a good part of the book detailing what are some of the hallmarks or characteristics of the Bush dynasty, going back four generations to the founder of the Bush dynasty -- who, you mentioned at one point, I think, was a Democrat? Is that right?

Kevin Phillips: Well, it's hard to say. You're talking about George Herbert Walker in Missouri and Sam Bush in Ohio. And because they were the two great-grandfathers of the current President, attention is merited to them. And one was clearly a Democrat -- that was Sam Bush in Ohio. It's not so clear what George H. Walker was. By the time he got to New York in the 1920s, he seemed to be supporting more Republicans, but his origins in Missouri -- St. Louis -- had him a Democrat there. It's probably not terribly meaningful what he was. He was a financier in that era, and, I think, a real piece of work.

CONTINUED...

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/01/int04001.html

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:45 PM
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7. The Bush Dynasty and the Cuban Criminals
Edited on Sat May-22-04 04:00 PM by seemslikeadream


Jeb Bush was then the chairman of the Dade county Republican party and Padreda its finance chairman. Padreda had earlier been indicted on a $500,000 (£320,000) embezzlement charge along with a fellow exile, Hernandez Cartaya, but the charges were dropped, reportedly after the CIA stated that Cartaya had worked for them.

Padreda later pleaded guilty to defrauding the housing and urban development department of millions of dollars during the 1980s.

The president's younger brother was also on the payroll in the 80s of the prominent Cuban exile Miguel Recarey, who had earlier assisted the CIA in attempts to assassinate President Castro.

Recarey, who ran International Medical Centers (IMC), employed Jeb Bush as a real estate consultant and paid him a $75,000 fee for finding the company a new location, although the move never took place, which raised questions at the time. Jeb Bush did, however, lobby the Reagan/Bush administration vigorously and successfully on behalf of Recarey and IMC. "I want to be very wealthy," Jeb Bush told the Miami News when questioned during that period.

In 1985, Jeb Bush acted as a conduit on behalf of supporters of the Nicaraguan contras with his father, then the vice-president, and helped arrange for IMC to provide free medical treatment for the contras.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1202-05.htm



En compañia del señor Jeb Bush y su esposa Columba Bush

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:20 PM
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10. He speaks Spanish just beautifully. Ask Otto Reich. They spell P-N-A-C.
From Right-Web.com:

Highlights & Quotes

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a founding member of the Project for the New American Century and the brother of George W. Bush, has been a trailblazer--along with his brother--of so-called compassionate conservatism. After he lost his first bid to be Florida’s governor in 1994, Bush converted to Catholicism (his wife’s religion), began urging his fellow Republicans to pay more attention to minorities, became a godfather to a poor black boy, and opened a charter school in one of Miami’s most destitute neighborhoods. (During the 1994 governor’s race he had said he would probably do “nothing” for blacks.) (1)

But compassionate conservatism apparently has its limitations. In the 1996 book Profiles in Character, which Jeb Bush coauthored with Brian Yablonski, Bush laid out his view of “modern victim movements”: “The surest way to get something in today’s society is to elevate one’s status to that of the oppressed. ... Many of the modern victim movements -- the gay rights movement, the feminist movement, the black empowerment movement -- have attempted to get people to view themselves as part of a smaller group deserving something from society. ... Eventually there will come a time when everybody will be able to claim some status as a victim of society, leaving few in society who will actually be considered the victimizers.” (4)

Bush has also called for fewer death row appeals and faster executions while at the same time arguing that Florida should withdraw from Aid to Families with Dependant Children and replace it with “temporary assistance.” (5)

Jeb is widely considered to have aided his brother’s controversial election victory in Florida by disqualifying thousands of predominately African American voters who were falsely accused of being convicted felons. According to a Salon.com investigation of Florida's voter rolls, “many voters, perhaps thousands, lost their right to vote because their names appeared on a flaw-ridden list generated by DBT Online (which has tight Republican ties) that included purported ‘felons.’ The investigation revealed that the lists were used in different ways at each of the state's 67 individual county election boards. Some found the list too unreliable and didn't use it at all, but most used the file as a resource to purge names from their voter lists. A disproportionate number of the voters purged were Democrats.” (7)

CONTINUED...

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/bush_j/bush_j.php

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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:56 PM
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8. did the 911 Commission cover this?
likely, not

Why did Jeb Bush and federal agents seize records from Huffman Aviation - Florida flight school of Mohammed Atta, and other 9/11 hijackers - in the middle of the night following the attacks of September 11th and load them onto a C-130? And why did Jeb Bush know, hours after the attack, where to look?
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hannah Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:07 PM
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9. Jeb
I work for the State of Florida, and received an e-mail at work from Jeb. They were asking for certified Correctional Officers from the State prisons to go work in Irag. I wish i kept the email. They were paying 75 thousand dollars, I think you had to stay at least a year. Also, you would be working for Dyncor...What do you make of this?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:22 PM
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11. I make mercenaries
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 12:06 AM
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15. Smirko thinks he's Sonny, Neil's Fredo and Jebthro's like Michael.
Bush and business: Fast success, brushes with mystery

BY ANDRES VIGLUCCI AND ALFONSO CHARDY
aviglucci@herald.com
Posted on Sat, Oct. 05, 2002

It was 1991, dad was in the White House, and Jeb Bush was hopscotching through Nigeria in a corporate jet, on his way to meet government officials he hoped would buy $74 million worth of water pumps from his South Florida business partner.

On the jet with Bush was a Nigerian associate in the deal, Al-Haji Mohammed Indimi, who carried several heavy Hartmann suitcases. At least one of the bags, the airplane's pilot says, was packed with cash to bribe the Nigerian officials.

Did Jeb Bush know about the cash in the suitcase? Did he understand what the money was for?

Bush declined to be interviewed for this story. His campaign emphatically denied that he knew anything about suitcases full of bribe money.

CONTINUED...

http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/4221945.htm?1c
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 12:09 AM
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16. Hey read this
Edited on Sun May-23-04 12:29 AM by seemslikeadream
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:36 AM
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21. Beeyoootifool! No wonder he's always gettin' hurt on bikes...


One's the brains. The other's the heart.
No wonder these zeros will get what they deserve.
Life in prison, without the possibility of parole.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:24 PM
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12. e-mail invite to rabbit for DynCorp in Iraq?! Wow!
The folks at Dyncorp have an interesting and long history with the Bush Organized Crime Family. In Bosnia, employees were charged with using children in the most horrible ways. I'm sure they're doing a better job nowadays helping people, one might say, in Iraq.

DynCorp Disgrace

Posted Jan. 14, 2002

By Kelly Patricia O Meara

Americans were seen in Bosnia as defenders of the children, as shown here, until U.S. contractors began buying children as personal sex slaves. Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for Ben Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago he blew the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting company doing business in Bosnia.

According to the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) lawsuit filed in Texas on behalf of the former DynCorp aircraft mechanic, "in the latter part of 1999 Johnston learned that employees and supervisors from DynCorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and other immoral acts. Johnston witnessed coworkers and supervisors literally buying and selling women for their own personal enjoyment, and employees would brag about the various ages and talents of the individual slaves they had purchased."

Rather than acknowledge and reward Johnston's effort to get this behavior stopped, DynCorp fired him, forcing him into protective custody by the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) until the investigators could get him safely out of Kosovo and returned to the United States. That departure from the war-torn country was a far cry from what Johnston imagined a year earlier when he arrived in Bosnia to begin a three-year U.S. Air Force contract with DynCorp as an aircraft-maintenance technician for Apache and Blackhawk helicopters.

For more than 50 years DynCorp, based in Reston, Va., has been a worldwide force providing maintenance support to the U.S. military through contract field teams (CFTs). As one of the federal government's top 25 contractors, DynCorp has received nearly $1 billion since 1995 for these services and has deployed 181 personnel to Bosnia during the last six years. Although DynCorp long has been respected for such work, according to Johnston and internal DynCorp communications it appears that extracurricular sexcapades on the part of its employees were tolerated by some as part of its business in Bosnia.

CONTINUED...

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/163052.html

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, hannah! Where ya been?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:28 PM
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13. well it's not like he's from Florida
Florida had a nicely corrupted state before he showed up.

It was ripe for the picking for BFEE.

It's a haven for criminals and Bush is one of them.

Why do these states let guys who aren't FROM those states become their governors?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 11:56 PM
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14. Good point! These Bush boys TARGETED certain states...
... for them to get "executive experience" in, kind of an affirmative executive action training. And yet, wherever they go, they leave a trail of tears, empty cashboxes, and interminable loss.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:04 AM
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17. and dead bodies
don't forget that.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:13 AM
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18. Jeb is a signee to PNAC.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:01 PM
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32. That's right
Makes you wonder if he was PNAC's first choice for the WH, and how much influence he had in picking the inner circle. I imagine quite a lot - Georgie owed him. After all, Jeb put his brother in the WH practically by himself, with a little help from Ms. Harris.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:05 AM
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19. KICK!
:kick:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 12:40 PM
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22. Thanks, Karenina! Hey, didya hear about World Finance Corp?
... Very interesting bank. A little background:

THE MIAMI NARCO-BANKING NETWORK

In 1979, the Nugan Hand Bank took as its president Donald Beazley, then president of the Great America Bank of Miami, which was indicted in 1982 for its cocaine-laundering operations. When Nugan Hand collapsed in 1980, Beazley moved on to become president of the City National Bank of Miami. The bank's new owner was Alberto Duque, a Colombian wheeler-dealer who also became involved with George Bush's son Jeb in the construction of a downtown Miami high-rise.

Scandals constantly surrounded the bank. In 1982, Duque's former New York partner, Eduardo Orozco, was arrested and convicted of running the largest money laundering operation ever uncovered in the U.S. Most of the funds were deposited with the CIA-linked exchange firm Deak Perera. In 1986, Duque was found guilty on 60 counts of fraud and conspiracy.

Throughout the years, the Miami narco-banking network enjoyed considerable political clout with both U.S. political parties. In the 1950s and 60s, Kuomintang money from Thailand and Burma came via Hong Kong to be laundered through south Florida property firms. The Somozas and other South American dictators bought Well out of the glare of public scrutiny, leading banks have sinister connections with up Miami mansions and filled up local banks. One Florida real estate agent estimated that of all foreign purchases in 1979, only 20% were the product of legitimate money.

The drug laundry World Finance Corporation that helped finance CORU in the 1970s had high-level connections to both the Democratic Party in Georgia and Washington (when Carter was president) and also to the Miami circles of the Republicans under Nixon.

Northside Bank of Miami was owned by Gilberto Rodriguez Orejula of the Cali drugs cartel. The Popular Bank and Trust Company, which was owned by deposed Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza until his death in 1980, was used by the State department to transmit funds to the Contras.

CONTINUED...

http://www.wakeupmag.co.uk/articles/ciadrugslaunder.htm


Then there's THIS one, with the greasy fingerprints of Jebthro:

How the Bush Family Coddled a Major Foreign Terrorist on US Soil

EXCERPT...

When Bosch helped found the terrorist umbrella network CORU in 1976, it began to receive funding from WFC , which printed and sold "bonds" to finance Bosch's terrorist work.

CORU founders, including Bosch, were implicated in the terrorist horrors of 1976 - the Cubana Airlines bombing and the assassination in Washington, D.C., of former Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier. The deaths of Letelier and his research assistant, Ronni Moffitt, in a car bombing brought to seventy-six the number of people CORU claimed to have killed in North and South America since its founding barely four months earlier.

John Dinges and Saul Landau, in their book on the Letelier case, Assassination on Embassy Row, concluded that CORU had the "active support of the CIA" and was "allowed to operate to punish Castro for his Angola policy without directly implicating the United States."

At the time of the assassination, not-directly-implicating-the-United-States in the terrorist activities of CIA surrogates was George Bush 's job. If CIA dads in their old age tell their sons war stories, George Bush had a good one to relate to Jeb about how back in 1976 he came to save the bacon of Jeb's later-life hero Orlando Bosch and his Cuban exile pals. CIA Director Bush had to work overtime to keep the agency out of the storms when Letelier's murder on Embassy Row brought death squad politics to the nation's capital.

-- Hinckle and Turner, "Deadly Secrets," p. lii.

Source:

http://afghanistanwar.com/archive/index.php/t-26071.html
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:08 PM
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33. I DO NOT GET IT.
Any cursory look by anyone who has as much as 2 brain cells to rub together will reveal the truth. Meine FICKEN FRESSE!!!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:43 PM
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44. "Television - The drug of the nation" ...
..."Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation." -- The Disposable Heroes of Hiphopcracy.

The only explanation I can come up with is that the TV has made thinking obsolete for a near-majority of Americans.

I've heard kids tell their moms and dads: "I don't want that toy because it wasn't on TV."

I've heard moms and dads say that "If Bush is so crooked, why isn't it on TV?"

Well, gee. Maybe the same turds who own the TV stations own Bush?

It seems odd they haven't thought of that.




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rebellious woman Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:48 AM
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20. delete
Edited on Sun May-23-04 07:49 AM by rebellious woman
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:51 PM
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23. He is the scum of the
Earth. I still am wondering how or if he actually got reelected.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:28 PM
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34. 10 Reasons Not to Vote for Jeb Bush in 2002
This seems appropriate...

10 Reasons Not to Vote for Jeb Bush in 2002

BY ROCHELLE RENFORD / http://www.weeklyplanet.com/current/cover.html 

Make no mistake. Americans do love their royalty. Our founding fathers may have given the finger to the royals in England, but generations later the monarchy still rules. The lack of an official king and queen has only allowed the American public to anoint several unofficial royal lines instead. As much as Americans extol the virtues of hard work, most of us probably would have preferred the silver spoon route. Work is fine, but really, wasn't leaving the womb hard enough? For some lucky sperm, the birth canal is the last tight spot they'll have to find their way out of. Like the Kennedys and the Rockefellers, the Bush clan is a monument to unearned privilege and power, but they've distinguished themselves with their capacity for denial. 

Gov. Jeb Bush has said that after college, he was on his own financially and made his own way through his own hard work. So what if that "hard work" was for his father's campaign, and for corporations run by his father's friends. While working at IntrAmerica Investments, a real estate development firm owned by Bush Sr. supporter Armando Codina, Bush's salary jumped six figures in about six years. He has said his family name wasn't an advantage but spent much of his career wooing clients who wanted to get next to his family. He was cut in on investment deals, even though he didn't actually have any cash to invest, and he walked away from scandals involving attempts to defraud the U.S. government, claiming that he wasn't a fraud but a dupe. Only he knows which is true, but it's clear that if he hadn't used his family connections to do favors for his wealthy comrades, some of the scandals wouldn't have happened. When developer Hiram Martinez Jr. requested $18-million in federal loan insurance for an apartment development in 1985, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development questioned its land value and delayed the request. Rather than allow HUD to do its job, Bush wrote a letter to the U.S. agency's undersecretary on Martinez's behalf. The loan was approved, the land values were inflated and Martinez got six years in prison on fraud charges. Bush has amnesia about the letter. Later he made a call to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to help another associate looking to get out of following some pesky federal rules.

Bush denies that he received special treatment in both of those incidents, but any citizen who's dealt with either agency knows that's not true. It's pretty damn special to have a top manager take your call, instead of getting a clerk who transfers your call or tells you to fill out forms.

It's his denial that makes Bush an ineffective governor. It's not possible to see why minorities would need affirmative action when you refuse to see that alumni and legacy admissions are a form of affirmative action too. It's easy to focus on punishment rather than rehabilitation when you've never had to be accountable for your own questionable dealings. Recognizing every citizen's right to vote is harder when you really believe that the only rights that count are yours. 

CONTINUED...

http://www.whoseflorida.com/10_reasons_not_to_vote_for_jeb_b.htm

1. He's Not Stupid, But He Thinks Voters Are
2. Faking It as the 'Education Governor' 
3. One Florida, Divisible (With Higher Education for Some)

The whole list is something. We must wake up our friends in Florida who don't know. The BFEE lives.



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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:14 PM
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24. I'm CONVINCED the bush family heads the mafia in the USA
Their ties, their administrations....everywhere you look, they're associated with criminals and criminal acts.

A mafia dynasty, if there ever was one.

"oh no! look over there! It's the Italians!!" NOT!

:kick::kick:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:38 PM
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35. SOCO And SICO; NCB and BCCI; TCB(1) and TCB(2) spells TERROR!
Jebthro likes to go where the money is. A big big bank for one. It would seem likely he's also interested in petroleum and illegal narcotics, two more of the world's top moneymakers.

SOCO And SICO; NCB and BCCI; TCB(1) and TCB(2): Acronyms of the Financing of Terror??

Israel Jared and the Emperor's Clothes website


EXCERPT...

Some conclusions and relationships
 
* Jeb Bush worked for Texas Commerce Bank as the assistant to the founder and head of the South America division.
* Texas Commerce Bank linked was linked to Saudi and drug money.
* Texas Capital Bank is linked to SOCO International PLC and its offshore North Korea oil leases through John C. Snyder and Snyder Oil.
* The "Forbidden Truth" links current terrorism to Saudi Banks and BCCI.
* Peter Dale Scott and other have Texas Commerce Bank linked to BCCI.
* Texas Capital Bank is linked to Texas Commerce Bank through John C. Snyder and Jody M. Grant.

Texas Capital Bank looks like a reinvention of Texas Commerce Bank. Same miraculous Enron like story of success, same "oil men/Bush supporter" links, maybe the same domestic and international Oil Exploration clients. When Texas Commerce Bank started popping up in mid 90s drug money investigations, it got sold off to Chase Manhattan. A year later (1998) Texas Capital Bank appears in full Texas glory. Probably just in time to help finance GW campaign. Peter Dale Scott has got a great website on BCCI Saudi terrorist Financing Links and a new book coming out in 2003:"Drugs, Oil, and War".  Wayne Madsen covers Saudi - Bin Laden ties here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD202B.html .  Professor Michael Chossudovsky (who has a new book out: WAR AND GLOBALISATION THE TRUTH BEHIND SEPTEMBER 11) also links Bush new chosen investigator to the Saudis and BCCI:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chossudovsky010903/chossudovsky010903.html

Source:

http://www.rmfdevelopment.com/political/SOCO_SICO_NCB_BCCI_TCB1_TCB2.htm
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:15 PM
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25. Another great post, Octafish
BTW, Jack McCarthy is one cool writer. I've been following his writings for some time now. He also responded to my emails. Professional characteristic, IMHO.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:51 PM
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37. Hey, susu369! Didja know Jeb's tied to bin Laden, too?
Thanks for the good news, susu369, regarding Jack McCarthy! He's a real journalist! His work shows: Good people do good things. We know what the other kind of people do.

Reporter Willoughby Mariano helps us see that the House of Bush and House of bin Laden are like THIS. Seems Jebthro applied a little arm-twisting on behalf of the bin Laden connected firm. Some patriots, those Bushes!

Osceola County, Fla., Commissioners to Stop Talks with Development Firm

Willoughby Mariano
The Orlando Sentinel, Fla.

Dec. 10--KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- Osceola County commissioners voted Monday night to kill talks on a $100 million convention center with an Orlando firm because of its possible ties to Osama bin Laden.

For two months, Xentury City Development had tried to fend off allegations that its Saudi-owned parent company has links to a bank that the United States alleges helps finance terrorism.

SNIP...

Yet Xentury's plans unraveled after researchers from the Local 362 of the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees union submitted a report to the county suggesting Xentury's parent company, Xenel International, may have links to banks that finance terrorists. A researcher for the union discovered a potential connection between Xentury's parent company, Saudi Arabia-based Xenel International, and an overseas bank the U. S. Department of State thinks was used to finance Al-Qaeda.

The CEO of Xenel is Abdullah Alireza. Alireza sits on the nine-member board of supervisors of an Islamic bank called Dar Al-Maal Al-Islami Trust. A subsidiary, Faisal Bank Sudan is among the co-founders of a third bank, Al Shamal Islamic Bank, according to published reports. State Department records showed Al Shamal Islamic Bank has been used to finance global terror.

CONTINUED...

http://www.enr.com/news/otherSources/2002/12/10/krtbn/0000-0515-OR-DEVELOPER.asp

BTW: Thank you, susu369! You've always been most kind to me -- three years now, counting my incarnation as Oblomov.
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rebellious woman Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:21 PM
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26. re. bush<link>
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 03:05 PM
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27. rebellious woman
Edited on Sun May-23-04 03:07 PM by seemslikeadream
I just started reading. Thanks so much, so much for the link.


Guatemala:
Exhuming the Past


The skeletal remains of Francisco's brother, ready to be photographed by FAFG before they are shipped to the laboratory for examination.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:43 PM
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36. Miami Casablanca


The accused spymaster, Gerardo Hernández, is a captain with Cuban military intelligence. Three of the ring members are still at large; two were double agents, providing information both to the FBI and to Cuba. Only Hernández has been charged with conspiracy to murder the four Brothers to the Rescue pilots — the rest are accused of acting as unregistered agents of a foreign government and other lesser espionage-related charges, such as infiltrating exile organizations and attempting to obtain information on U.S. military operations in Miami.

Government officials said the spy ring did no damage to U.S. security. Although some had managed to work in U.S. military bases in Florida, they did not break into classified information or sensitive areas.

As a side note to La Red Avispa, authorities discovered that the group had no money. Spymaster Viramontes, for instance, never paid his rent on time, and others had to work two jobs to make ends meet.


Cuban Exiles’ Alleged Anti-Castro Plots and U.S. Counterterrorism

The discovery of La Red Avispa came as the FBI was beginning an investigation in Puerto Rico of several anti-Castro plots, allegedly planned by U.S. Cuban exiles. That investigation was launched after a federal grand jury indicted seven Cuban exiles in another plot to kill Fidel Castro, in Venezuela in 1997. All the cases are connected to Luis Posada Carriles, according to reports in the Miami Herald. Posada, a CIA-trained explosives expert has lived in semi-hiding in El Salvador, ever since his 1985 escape from a Venezuelan jail while awaiting trial in the bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people. He was the mastermind behind three years of bombing attempts in which he used Salvadoran and Guatemalan agents to smuggle bombs into Havana.

The end of the Cold War emboldened the Cuban-American community, and by 1991 many Cuban exiles dreamed that the end to Castro’s rule was near. A series of anti-Communist plots began brewing in Miami. Cuban-Americans joined para-military groups in Miami that promoted the overthrow of Castro. The overweight members of Alpha 66, the remnants of Bay of Pigs veterans, along with newly-recruited Cubans, held military games in Homestead, Florida — with plastic guns, to avoid problems with local authorities.

more
http://www.elandar.com/back/summer00/stories/story_miamispy.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 03:45 PM
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28. VICTOR BOUT INTERNATIONAL ARMS DEALER
GALLERY OF INTERNATIONAL ARMS DEALERS



By Matthew Brunwasser

Victor Bout is the poster boy for a new generation of post Cold War international arms dealers who play a critical role in areas where the weapons trade has been embargoed by the United Nations.

Now, as FRONTLINE/World reports in "Gunrunners," unprecedented U.N. investigations have begun to unravel the mystery of these broken embargoes, many of them imposed on African countries involved in bloody civil wars. At the heart of this unfolding detective story is the identification of a group of East European arms merchants, with Victor Bout the first of them to be publicly and prominently identified. The U.N. investigative team pursued leads that a Mr. Bout was pouring small arms and ammunition into Angola, Rwanda, Sierra Leone and the Congo, making possible massacres on a scale that stunned the world.



Despite being pursued for years by a flinty group of private and government arms investigators, a positive visual ID of this United Arab Emirates-based arms merchant only became available when two Belgian journalists ran into him at an airstrip in remote rebel-held Congo. And it was only recently that his name became familiar in the United States, following press reports of his role in arming the Taliban regime in Afghanistan five years ago. If not for this link to Afghanistan, it is probable that Bout would still be a low-profile character in the clandestine world of illicit arms trading.


more
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/sierraleone/bout.html



VICTOR BOUT
FACT SHEET
BORN:
1967, Dushanbe, U.S.S.R. (now Tajikistan); an ethnic Russian.

PASSPORTS:
At least five, two of which are Russian and one Ukrainian.

ALIASES:
Often referred to in law enforcement circles as "Victor B.," as he is thought to have at least five aliases: Butt, Butov, Badd, Bulakin and others.

EDUCATION:
Graduated from the Military Institute of Foreign Languages, Moscow.

PREVIOUS CAREER:
Until 1991, served as an interpreter in a now-disbanded military transport aviation regiment in Vitsebsk (now Belarus). Translated for U.N. peacekeeping force in Angola, 1987. Left the military as a lieutenant.

LANGUAGES:
Russian (native), Farsi (Persian, also the language of Tajikistan), English, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Xhosa, Zulu.

MOST RECENTLY:
Last seen at liberty in Moscow in March, 2002.

CRIMINAL RECORD:
June 2000: Charged with forging documents in the Central African Republic and convicted in absentia. Charges were later dropped; no explanation was given.
February 2002: Belgium issued an arrest warrant for Bout on money laundering charges.

more
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/sierraleone/bout.html




MERCHANT OF DEATH
Viktor Bout standing near an airplane.

Published on Friday, May 21, 2004 by the Inter Press Service
Arms Dealer Wanted in Africa, Needed in Iraq
Coalition forces find new uses in Iraq for an arms dealer they had branded a villain in Africa.

by Julio Godoy

PARIS - Arms dealer Viktor Bout was the merchant of death wanted for feeding conflicts in Africa - until Iraq happened.

Today the United States and Britain are using his extensive mercenary services in Iraq. The condemnation of his role in the diamond wars and other conflicts in sub-Saharan Africa over the past ten years is being silently erased.

The Tajikstan-born Bout would be an embarrassing ally to acknowledge publicly. But the coalition partners are showing him exceptional favors as he does some of their job for them.

The UN Security Council drafted a resolution in March to freeze the assets of mercenaries and weapons dealers who backed ousted Liberian dictator Charles Taylor. Bout should top that list, French diplomatic sources say. But the diplomats and UN sources say the United States has been working to keep Bout off that list.

U.S. officials have indicated unofficially that the reason is that Bout is useful in Iraq, the sources told IPS.

The tanks were believed to have been transported by one of Bout's air freight companies in a deal conducted through Pakistan's secret service. The deal was uncovered by the Russian foreign intelligence service SVR in Kabul, Der Spiegel reported.

more
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0521-12.htm

"The top arms manufacturers -- and the U.S. sells more weapons than the rest of the world combined -- have a vested interest in keeping their product on the move, legally or otherwise. And aren't there also simply times when a government decides it's in its best interest, and its citizens' best interest, to let traffickers traffic?... According to Clinton administration N.S.C. officials, from its first days the Bush administration didn't see transnational crime as a national-security issue, and it didn't share their fixation on Victor Bout Condoleezza Rice instructed the N.S.C. to work the Bout problem diplomatically. ''Look but don't touch'' is how one former White House official put it to me. After Sept. 11, Rice called off the Bout operation altogether. Moscow was not to be pressured on arms trafficking in general and Victor Bout in particular. The reasoning, according to a source who talked to Rice, was that they had ''bigger fish to fry.'' (Rice refused to comment for this article.) " , nyt, 08.17.03
http://www.bushwatch.com/comment.htm
January 19, 2001

New United Nations sanctions against Afghanistan take effect, adding to those from 1999 (see November 14, 1999). The sanctions limit travel by senior Taliban authorities, freeze bin Laden's and the Taliban's assets, and order the closure of Ariana Airlines offices abroad. The sanctions also impose an arms embargo against the Taliban, but not against Northern Alliance forces battling the Taliban. But this doesn't stop the illegal trade network the Taliban is secretly running through Ariana (see Mid-1996-October 2001). Two companies, Air Cess and Flying Dolphin, take over most of Ariana's traffic. Air Cess is owned by the Russian arms dealer Victor Bout, and Flying Dolphin is owned by the UAE's former ambassador to the US, who is also an associate of Bout (see October 1996). In late 2000, despite UN reports linking Flying Dolphin to arms smuggling, the United Nations gives Flying Dolphin permission to take over Ariana's closed routes, which it does until the new sanctions take effect. Bout's operations are still functioning and he has not been arrested. Ariana is essentially destroyed in the October 2001 US bombing of Afghanistan.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline_pf.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=300
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:59 PM
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38. For about an hour after the Soviet Union collapsed, we had a chance...
... to establish a world without nuclear weapons, one where humanity used its talents and treasure and resouces to make a world that would be a better place for the present and the future generations. Instead, men of little vision and great avarice closed the window and decided to contine to enslave the world, strip the world of its resrouces and kill all who oppose them.

This turd Bout, is but a mere merchant of the BFEE. Hope he makes it to the New Gulag in one piece.

TERRORISM MONITOR
Volume 2 Issue 6 (Mar 25, 2004)

LOOSE NUKES AND AL-QAEDA

By Taras Kuzio

In an article in the January-February issue of Foreign Affairs, Graham Allison, director of the Belfer Centre for Science and International Affairs at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, pointed out that nearly each month someone is "apprehended trying to smuggle or steal nuclear materials or weapons." The last incident, in February, involved a former Soviet intelligence officer attempting to smuggle plutonium-239, cesium-137 and uranium across the Ukrainian-Hungarian border. The current U.S. Ambassador to Japan warned "there could be 40,000 nuclear weapons, or maybe 80,000 in the former Soviet Union, poorly controlled and poorly stored…" Half of the Soviet arsenal, Allison argues, "remains inadequately secured."

Potential "loose nukes" suppliers include Russia, Ukraine, Belarus (led by Europe's last dictator, Alyaksandr Lukashenka) and the Transdniester enclave of Moldova. Of these potential sources, Belarus and Transdniester are aligned with Russia and are propped up financially by Moscow.

UKRAINE'S MILITARY LINKS TO PAKISTAN AND THE TALIBAN

From 1996 to 2000, Pakistan spent US$800 million on Ukrainian arms and military equipment, making it one of the largest purchasers of Ukrainian armaments. The bulk of this expenditure went to the purchase of 300 T-80YD tanks. In June 2002, a Pakistani delegation visited Ukraine, seeking to modernize its T-69 and T-72 tanks as well as its U.S. F16 and Russian SU-27 aircraft. A US$100 million deal was signed for Ukraine to deliver 285 engines for tanks. Close military links between Ukraine and Pakistan have inevitably raised the question of whether there were also Ukrainian military links with the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which was backed by Saudi funds and Pakistani personnel and political support.

In January of 2002 reports surfaced in a number of Western media, including Der Spiegel, that Ukrainian T-55 tanks had ended up in Afghanistan via Pakistan. Der Spiegel pointed to Leonid and Andrei Derkach as being behind the military shipments to Afghanistan. Leonid Derkach headed the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) from 1997-2002, during which time the SBU was heavily involved in such illegal arms transactions. His son, Andrei, is implicated in many other arms scandals that involve such notorious gunrunners as Leonid Minin.

CONTINUED...

http://www.jamestown.org/publications_details.php?volume_id=400&issue_id=2929&article_id=23647

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:04 AM
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39. Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
Edited on Mon May-24-04 12:09 AM by seemslikeadream
WATCH THIS VIDEO


EVERY DEATH CREATES NEW ENEMIES
MORE TERRORISTS
MORE DANGER
MORE DEATH
AND REMEMBER...
HE IS JUST GETTING STARTED...
BUSH'S PLAN FOR PEACE
IS THE PEACE OF THE COMMON GRAVE

LET AMERICA BE AMERICA AGAIN

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html



Let America be America Again...by Langston Hughes


Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed--
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There's never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek--
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean--
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home--
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a "homeland of the free."

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay--
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again--
The land that never has been yet--
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME--
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose--
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath--
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain--
All, all the stretch of these great green states--
And make America again!



Octafish, I think you'll like this one too. Thanks for the Memories!
http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:24 AM
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41. No answer for now except to remind DU that Jeb's tied toSantos Trafficante
That's some poem, seemslikeadream. Thanks and I'll have to look up the animation from my rabbit. This ol' Apple ain't what it used to be. One thing doesn't change: A real friend. Thank you!



http://www.maebrussell.com/Bibliography%20Sheets/840s2.html
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:29 PM
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31. Felix Rodriquez (Alias Max Gomez) was/is? good friends with
Poppy Bush. He was Fulgencio Batista's lieutenant and after Batista was ousted he went to work for the CIA and is responsible for the murder of Che' in Bolivia. Che was captured then murdered.

Rodriguez was an associate of Carlos Marcello and Santo Trafficante, both Cuban Mafia bigwig drug traffickers, gambling casino owners with a bitter enmity towards Castro for shutting down their operations in Cuba. The House Assasinations Committee in the 70's cited Marcello and Trafficante as primary suspects in a conspiracy to kill JFK. RFK had Marcello deported sometime before the JFK assasination. Marcello is linked to Jack Ruby through the Carousel Motel, apparently they exchanged "dancing girls".

There are pictures of Rodriguez talking to Poppy in the White House, they both were involved in Iran--Contra.


IMO, Poppy Bush was involved in the JFK assasination with his multiple connections to those with the motive and others directly involved.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:07 AM
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40. Yeh, the BFEE turd bragged about wearing Che's watch.
I read his memoir, "Shadow Warrior." The little prick reads like he was an angel uh defendin' freedim un all. He's been BFEE from at least Dallas and all the way through Iran-Contra and maybe well beyond. Here's a most important bit before I run out of steam tonight, DU Friend 9215. Didja ever hear of the "Christic Institute?" This fellah Sheehan is still around, bending Kucinich's ear...

Ollie North and The Operation

by Daniel Sheehan

Transcript of a speech given in late 1986 by Daniel Sheehan, chief counsel for the Christic Institute

DANIEL SHEEHAN: Well, good afternoon. It's a real pleasure. After the years of fighting in the trenches against the contra supporters here in the United States, it's finally time for the American people to find out who those supporters are, what they've been doing, and what it is that's going to result in their going to federal prison. Now, everyone here has heard about the scandal, the downing of Eugene Hasenfus and the C-123 cargo plane he was piloting on Oct. 5 <1986>, and later in November the startling revelations by Attorney General Edwin Meese about the secret sales of arms, spare parts for the F-14's, and the TOW missiles to Iran, and the diversion of some of the profits from those sales to the contras in Central America.

We also know that, as a result of these scandals, the legislative branch of our government has established two select committees, one in the U.S. Senate and one in the House of Representatives, to investigate the need for additional legislation and supervisory structures over the executive branch of our government. We also know that within the executive department there has been appointed a special prosecutor, Mr. Walsh, to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of those involved in this affair.

What is less known is that there is an investigation and prosecution going on in the judicial branch of our government since May of 1986. There has been on file a federal racketeering charge in the federal court of Miami. This is the case that you may have read about Friday morning , where the U.S. District Court of Miami has thrown out all of the motions of the defendants to dismiss that case. As a consequence, we are authorized to proceed with federal subpoena power to investigate the criminal racketeering activity of these people.

Now, the questions that are floating around in our nation today have been highlighted in a Senate Intelligence Committee Preliminary Report, which was released on Thursday. This report left over one dozen major questions. Some of these are: Did President Reagan know of the diversion of funds to the contras arising from the sale of arms to Iran? Did President Reagan approve of the activities of Lt. Col. Oliver North: dealing with the Iranians, and dealing with the diversion of funds from the Iranian gun sale to the contras?

Who, indeed, are these shadowy arms merchants that we are beginning to hear about: Ghorbanifar, Hakim, Khashoggi? Who are these people? What role did the government play in the transfer of these arms to the Iranians? Who is this Theodore Shackley, who Khashoggi says, is the man who first suggested the idea of trading arms for hostage in the Middle East? What role is it that this Mr. Buckley plays inthe exchange of arms, this man who was the CIA station chief in Beirut and who was one of the hostages? And more generally, when, and where in the world will this end? Now, these are a few of the questions that we know the special prosecutor is looking into and the select committees of our Congress are looking into.

CONTINUED (LONG DOWNLOAD TIME -- WORTH THE WAIT)...

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/oln123ha.html


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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:46 PM
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42. Great stuff Octafish.
When this cabal goes down all of this research we have done on the JFK coup and other deeds by the nefarious Bushies will be useful when old cases are re-opened.

OK, that's a little wishful thinking, but hey, what else can we do while we watch and wait?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. BCCI, Jebthro and Smirko – Robert Morgenthau for USAG
You probably know this stuff, 9215, but I bet many newer DUers don't:

Manhattan DA Robert Morgenthau knows Jebthro, Smirko and Poppy are tied to BCCI -- the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, called by DCI Robert Gates "the bank of crooks and criminals international." Morgenthau was a great US attorney, but the Reagan-Bush DoJ doesn't like the good apples, if you know what I mean.

Ever hear of CenTrust? Jeb has. And an honest US Attorney General will make sure the whole BFEE remembers, too – from Leavenworth.


Background:
Investigating BCCI and Savings and Loan Fraud


The BCCI scandal and the savings and loan crisis are complicated by near-incomprehensible numbers, multitudes of players, and the heightened secrecy that often protects negligent and criminal behavior. Allan Dodds Frank, a business investigative reporter and producer at ABC News, observed that "(these) people are spending lifetimes constructing complex crimes....(I)f it were so easy, they wouldn't have made them so complicated."

In spite of the magnitude of numbers, names, and places, the BCCI affair and the savings and loan crisis can be reduced to a few basic themes. Reporters who discussed the coverage of these stories at The Annenberg Washington Program provided brief overviews of the scandals and tried to distill the issues for conference participants in much the same way they would for viewers or readers.

Although the scandal surrounding the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) is perhaps the biggest banking scandal in history, it received limited media coverage. BCCI was a Pakistani-managed, Middle East-financed international bank with branches in 70 countries. Peter Truell, a reporter for The Wall Street Journal who has written some of the most significant stories on BCCI, described the essence of the scandal:

It is a story about stealing very large amounts of money and using it for a multitude of illegal purposes, perverting governments, corrupting politicians, corrupting regulators, corrupting bank regulators.

CONTINUED…

http://www.annenberg.nwu.edu/pubs/news/news03.htm


Here’s the skinny, courtesy of one Sen. John Kerry:


BCCI IN THE UNITED STATES, PART TWO

ACQUISITION, CONSOLIDATION, AND CONSEQUENCES

Initial Plan For BCCI in the U.S. After the Takeover


BCCI worked make these branch offices high-profile from the beginning. In Miami, for example, the bank deliberately sought out well-known public officials and invited them to visit the bank. Both past and present Florida governors accepted the invitation, as did a U.S. Senator, and the then-son of the Vice President of the United States, Jeb Bush, who was at the time Florida's Secretary of State. Miami branch chief Abdur Sakhia said although BCCI had only been in south Florida a short time before its opening, it was already growing rapidly and becoming profitable, and political figures were glad to help the bank celebrate its growth.

We started in April 1982, but our formal opening in August 1982. Governor Graham came to that opening. Jeb Bush came to that opening too, along with Atlanta Mayor Andrew Young. Oil ministers from Venezuela, Abu Dhabi, the minister of economy and finance from Jamaica, Barbados, officials from Central Banks from all over the region. We had eight to ten ministers and central bank governors and leading businessmen from Venezuela and Peru and Trinidad, everywhere. It was a very successful opening. . .I have a videotape of portions of those in which Graham is being introduced to all BCCI people. Jeb Bush is also in those videotapes. Dante Fascell came to my house. We had met socially a couple of times. Reuben Askew came to the bank several times and had been to my house. Paula Hawkins came to the bank several times separately.(6)

SNIP…

CenTrust: BCCI Schemes With A Dirty S&L

Throughout the 1980's, BCCI had wanted to establish a foot-hold in Florida through owning a bank in that state with the ability to take deposits from Americans, a power precluded BCCI's branch operation there under federal bank laws applying to foreign banks, which are outside the U.S. federal deposit insurance system. Internal memoranda at BCCI begin referring to a variety of possible acquisitions of banks in South Florida, and a number of different BCCI officials, including Abdur Sakhia, who testified before the Subcommittee, began investigating possible target banks in Florida for BCCI's acquisition. A memorandum from Sakhia to Abedi in early 1986, entitled, "Future Plans in the United States," describes BCCI's intentions:

SNIP…

In point of fact, BCCI had expanded its branch offices to three in Florida -- Miami, Tampa and Boca Raton -- but was unable to find a suitable target bank in Florida over the remainder of 1986. Moreover, BCCI had decided by early 1986 that whatever it did in Florida would have to be secret, because the Treasury losses discovered by BCCI's auditors in 1985 and announced publicly in December 1985 had made BCCI even more notorious in international banking circles, and would subject any proposed purpose of a U.S. bank by BCCI to even more scrutiny.(52) Sakhia, as well as others affiliated with BCCI, had already begun meeting with CenTrust chief David Paul beginning in early 1985 and continuing through 1986, socializing with Paul. According to Sakhia, nothing came of these meetings. (53)

CONTINUED…

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/07later.htm

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. Something poetic about this: Robert Morgenthau digging up BCCI's dirt, and
Henry Morgenthau, FDR's Secretary of the Treasury, hounding the BIS (Bank of International Settlements) for Nazi moneylaundering by US industrialists during WWII.

The octopus has a lot of tentacles, and they've been busy a long time.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. And now you know why I've been so gung-ho...
Edited on Mon May-24-04 09:08 PM by Octafish
... regarding John Kerry. He knows how to sink the BFEE. But he can't do it alone and that's why you and DU and the rest of the good people in this world are SOOOOOOOO important, Minstrel Boy. Most have no idea, my DU Friend...



John Kerry, left, sails with President John F. Kennedy
aboard the 62-foot Coast Guard yawl Manitou
in Narragansett Bay on Aug. 26, 1962.

Strange how things work out in this universe layer.

Wouldn't it be great ...?



EDIT: "You" to "Most." I know You know, MB.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. From LBN and
slaveplanet


Explosive new Sibel Edmonds interview


Very important, lengthy interview with the former FBI translator published today. Get a load of this - she's pointing her finger at the BCCI/BFEE Octopus, not "al Qaeda."


JH: I understand why you can't say anything about this, but there are several books out about the Bush ties to the Saudis and the bin Ladens in particular. And in David Griffin's book, The New Pearl Harbor, there is a very good synopsis of the ISI, which is the Pakistani intelligence service. He shows the direct connections between the CIA, the ISI, and Mohamed Atta. He makes a very convincing case that the Pakistani ISI had been helping to plan 9/11 for a long time.

I don't imagine that you are allowed to say much about that.

SE: You are correct. But I can tell you that the issue, on one side, boils down to money--a lot of money. And it boils down to people and their connections with this money, and that's the portion that, even with this book, has not been mentioned to this day. Because then it starts touching some people in high places.

JH: Can you explain more about what money you are talking about?

SE: The most significant information that we were receiving did not come from counter-terrorism investigations, and I want to emphasize this. It came from counter-intelligence, and certain criminal investigations, and issues that have to do with money laundering operations.

You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points - and they (the intelligence community) are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing "foreign relations" which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental levels. And I keep underlining semi-legit organizations and following the money. When you do that the picture gets grim. It gets really ugly.

JH: Let me read you a short quote from Dr. Griffin's book, quoting from War and Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11 by Michel Chossudovsky and ask you to comment on it. "...The transfer of money to Atta <$325,000>, in conjunction with the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week, is the missing link behind 9/11....The evidence confirms that al-Qaeda is supported by Pakistan's ISI (and it is amply documented that) the ISI owes its existence to the CIA."

SE: I cannot comment on that. But I can tell that once, and if, and when this issue gets to be, under real terms, investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:18 PM
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48. if this planet blows to pieces this year,
You may never have heard of Khan Laboratories, but if this planet blows to pieces this year, it will likely be thanks to Khan Labs' creating nuclear warheads for Pakistan's military.


The "Back-Off" Directive and the Islamic Bomb

... A top-level CIA operative who spoke with us on condition of strictest anonymity said that, after Bush took office, "There was a major policy shift" at the National Security Agency. Investigators were ordered to "back off " from any inquiries into Saudi Arabian financing of terror networks, especially if they touched on Saudi royals and their retainers. That put the Bin Ladens, a family worth a reported $12 billion and a virtual arm of the Saudi royal household, off limits for investigation. Osama was the exception; he remained a wanted man, but agents could not look too closely at how he filled his piggy bank. The key rule of any investigation, "follow the money," was now violated, and investigations-at least before September 11-began to die.



And there was a lot to investigate-or in the case of the CIA and FBI under Bush-a lot to ignore. Through well-known international arms dealers (I'm sorry, but in this business, sinners are better sources than saints) our team was tipped off to a meeting of Saudi billionaires at the Hotel Royale Monceau in Paris in May 1996 with the financial representative of Osama bin Laden's network. The Saudis, including a key Saudi prince joined by Muslim and non-Muslim gun traffickers, met to determine who would pay how much to Osama. This was not so much an act of support but of protection-a pay off to keep the mad bomber away from Saudi Arabia.



The crucial question here is that, if I could learn about this meeting, how did the CIA miss it? In fact, since the first edition of this book, other sources have disclosed that the meeting was monitored by French intelligence. Since U.S. intelligence was thus likely informed, the question becomes, Why didn't our government immediately move against the Saudis?

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=312&row=0
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. BCCI Financed the Pakistani Bomb.
Don't you just LOVE south Asian journalism? They actually practice what it's all about...

Senator Kerry's ticking nuclear bomb set to explode

Posted on Wednesday, March 17 @ 00:32:00 EST
Topic: United States of America

The myth that A Q Khan’s proliferation activities were conducted without the knowledge of the Pakistani army chiefs and prime ministers and further that the US administration was fully satisfied with this explanation stands demolished. Consider the following. One, in an interview to the Far Eastern Economic Review US deputy secretary Wolfowitz indicates there was a deal between the US and Pakistan for the cover-up. Two, according to Khan’s friends, General Zia-ul Haq directed him to respond to the 1987 Iranian overtures for nuclear technology but told him not to go too far. Three, two former assistant secretaries of state of the Bush (Sr) administration, Harry Rowan and Henri Sokoslki, have disclosed that General Aslam Beg told them in 1990 that if the US were to cut off aid to Pakistan it might be forced to share nuclear technology with Iran at a price. Four, between 1984-86, the US sold arms to Iran illegally to secure the release of hostages held by Hizbullah in Lebanon. A part of the proceeds of the arms sales was diverted as aid to contra rebels in Nicaragua in defiance of a Congressional ban.

Nuclear Bombshell: The Truth that John Kerry Knows
K SUBRAHMANYAM

When a CIA plane carrying the arms supply was shot down and the American pilot taken prisoner, the matter became public. The national security advisor, Admiral Poindexter, and Colonel Oliver North were put on trial and were initially convicted and subsequently acquitted on a technicality.

Whether the Iran-contra deal encouraged the Iranians to make overtures to Pakistan on nuclear technology and General Zia was emboldened to direct A Q Khan to respond positively would need to be further investigated.

However, it is an open secret that the US was permissive of the Pak nuclear weapons programme: The Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) owned by the Pakistani, Agha Hasan Abedi, was chosen by the CIA to put through the Iran-contra arms deal.

The bank’s collapse in 1991 kicked up a lot of political dust: So much so, the bank’s illegal penetration of the US banking system, through a benami take-over of the First American Bank, became the subject matter of Senate Foreign Relations sub-committee enquiry chaired, most interestingly, by senator John Kerry — the present Democratic contender for the US presidency.

CONTINUED...

http://www.politrix.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=628



Source: http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2409643

Here's the Federation of American Scientists' Pakistani-Bomb Timeline:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/nuke/chron.htm

Nuclear proliferation. It isn't just for nerds anymore.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. Thanks, seemslikeadream! Most heartening information...
... and at the same time, it breaks my heart into a million pieces to think that my NATION -- OUR COUNTRY -- could be led by such as these. Prison for life for every single one involved in this treason. No lobotomies, either (sorry, opihimoimoi!). We need to know what makes such criminals tick, as well as who they work with and for.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. Snazzy sez from LBN - Riggs maybe the new BCCI
Edited on Mon May-24-04 09:29 PM by seemslikeadream
Equatorial Guinea also involved in the Riggs bank scandal


but laundering money for the government (Obiang) and likely paying out the bribes from the oil companies.

LA Times story (somewhere odd) has good details: http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view.cgi?archive=43&num=11319&printe...

That's the Jonathan Bush linked company that there were other stories about today and recently--funneling money from Saudi's to the West Coast 9/11 terrorist cell.

I don't yet get if or how the coup money would be related. Greg Wales doesn't google very well, for one. But naturally we have a Bush linked company doing something hokey with oil rich EG, so there's got to be more to it. From some reading today, I think the International arm of Riggs is based in Miami--maybe throw in some Jeb, Cubans, drugs or other crazy Florida stuff that always makes up a nice BFEE crime conspiracy. I'm catching a strong wiff of BCCI.

Business
Bank and African Oil State Ties Probed
By Ken Silverstein, LA Times 9/4/04
Apr 11, 2004, 07:50



A federal grand jury and a Senate subcommittee are investigating the relationship between a prominent Washington bank and a tiny, oil-rich West African state.

Investigators are scrutinizing hundreds of millions of dollars in accounts held at Riggs Bank by the government of Equatorial Guinea and its ruler, Brig. Gen. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo. Sources familiar with the probes said investigators were trying to determine whether any deposits into Obiang's personal accounts were the fruits of corruption and whether funds from a state account were diverted to the president or his family members.

The Times first reported on Riggs' relationship with Equatorial Guinea last year, which prompted the bank to conduct an internal investigation. Riggs subsequently dismissed Simon Kareri, a senior executive overseeing the Equatorial Guinea accounts.

In February, Riggs ordered Equatorial Guinea's government to withdraw all of its assets from the bank. U.S. government and banking sources said Equatorial Guinea has had difficulty finding another U.S. bank to take its money, and most, if not all, of its deposits are still held at Riggs.

"Riggs' security procedures detected questionable activities on the part of Simon Kareri," said Mark Hendrix, a bank spokesman. "Riggs turned the matter over to U.S. criminal authorities. Riggs is cooperating with authorities and, in light of the investigations, views it as inappropriate to comment further on these matters."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=574675
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. Thanks, slad! Without snazzy and DU, it'd be near-impossible...
... to keep up to speed. Old farts at play like me tend to remember the past in order to not to repeat it with the same cast of bad characters. Wow. That Bush Organized Crime Family is really something -- I need a scorecard. What paranoids like me have been screaming for decades is that the corruption is systemic. If the spaghetti should really hit the fan, the whole pot of sauce is gonna get sprayed on everyone milling around in the kitchen through the pantry and into the dining room beyond. I pray there are enough good soldiers, sailors, marines, coastguards and national guardsmen and everybody else who believes in the US Constitution on KP.





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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:11 PM
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55. DU sailors extraordinare - We're all with ya Octafish!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:07 AM
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56. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Now you've got ARTISTS in my bathroom? Seems we'll have to send for the Witchsmeller Pursuivant. Gee. The only place where I thought I was safe from Johnny Ashcan and the USA Rat Act was the privy. Can I at least purchase the original sketches?



But first, to raise a little cash...

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #43
54. But where's the sex?
We gotta have sex, rape and all that before America gets interested......

Viola!!

Lawyers acting for creditors of collapsed bank BCCI began their opening statements at the High Court on Tuesday in a case against the Bank of England.

BBC News Online had this summary of what was said in court.

The main lawyer for the complainants, Gordon Pollock QC, referred to the Bank of England as a once revered institution - he emphasized the word once.

He said he intended to show that Bank of England officials had been spineless, weak and selfish.

But he emphasized repeatedly that he did not argue that they were corrupt - although if any official had wanted to be bribed - BCCI's founder, the late Aga Hasan Aabedi was, as he put it, "your man".

Mr. Abedi could get you girls, boys, seats at the opera, or money in suitcases if you wanted, Mr. Pollock said.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3393179.stm




Here is some info without a link that needs to be investigated and and sourced. I had it in my notes

I got this about 2/15/04

Officially, the Saudi connection is still under investigation in the UK, I believe. UK Operation Ore is part of the US Operation Landslide, where cumulative data going back 20 years is being collated to trace pre-internet era child abuse rings linked to BCCI funds. The lynchpin in covering up BFEE involvement in the UK is Blair's bagman 'Lord' Michael Levy. He and an Australian mall builder called Lowy are linked to Brazil's President Lulua da Silva via slush fund payments in the late 1980s to mid 1990s to cover up vice rings operating in the Arabian Gulf.

Thatcher's Minister for Defence Procurement Jonathan Aitken did a plea bargain when they busted him for receiving 'royalty payments' from Abedi for procuring 6 to 10 year olds for the House of Saud. Aitken did a minimum sentence for perjury and is holding out for a whitewash of his plea bargain deal, which lists credit card payments to offshore accounts held by BFEE members.Haven't got an online link but Lowy can be checked out. The UK Sunday Times did a story about 18 months ago about Blair's personal 'blind trust' - the Manchester Trust - which links him to Lowy who doshed up Levy in the UK in 'consultancy fees'. (Levy was being investigated by the UK taxman for failing to file returns and listing only 'consultancies'.

Lowy was one of a construction group who held leasehold agreements about franchising the redevelopment of the WTC shopping malls pre 9-11). Lulua da Silva has a paedophile record in the UK under various aliases and Operation Ore has the plea bargain affidavit he swore in the UK when busted for involvement of slush fund payments from Colombia and Paraguay via the BCCI branch that was busted when the BCCI manager was shot in th street. This implicated Shaikh Zayed, President of the UAE and head of govt of Abu Dhabi, who personally lost in excess of $25 billion when BCCI was closed down by Bob Morgenthau.

There are numerous other threads in this. The Al Qaeda suspect Khaled bin Fawwaz has a sister in the UK. She is personally known to me as one of the lynchpins in UK centred BCCI slush fund transfers. She has a brother in law, first name 'Ronny', who became BCCI Colombia manager after the murder of the previous manager. He later transferred to Bangladesh before the Morgenthau NYC bust of BCCI, and was investigated for fund flows of Malaysian/Thai prostitution rings. When they caught him they also busted the late Michael Hutchence - Aussie band man of InXs fame, who allegedly topped himself a few years ago, just before his UK girlfriend Paula Yates (Bob Geldof's ex) died of a mysterious heroin overdose, subsequently thought to be a pure heroin hit...Hutchence also did a plea bargain over his paedophile activities and was fined in excess of $30 million. Geldof is named as a child sesx offender 30 years ago. The Hutchence family wrangle over probate funds has failed to uncover any of his ammassed rock music earnings and has blocked all coverage of the plea bargain he did with Aussie/Thai/Malaysian cops and the 'victim restitution payments' he made as part of his plea bargain.

Back to bin Fawwaz: This UK based sister is also involved with various members of the North London family called Abraham*** who testified to IRA bombings that were covered up by Thatcher to protect BFEE involvement in UK slush funds. Her personal connections extend to the late Dr David Kelly - the Iraq WMD inspector who allegedly topped himself last summer. In `1994 the UK special branch (anti-terrorist cops) applied a D Notice - that is, a Ministry of Defence gagging order - about a story corroborated by several witnesses that said Dr David Kelly and bin Fawwaz's sister met in a North London IRA safe house near the Bahai temple that Kelly allegedly worshipped at in Compayne Gardens, London NW6. This woman lives with an eminent 'professor of Islamic history/culture' who is a big number at London University and a Blair adviser on Muslim relations. He lives and works under a pseudonym because he and the late Dr David Kelly were both busted in the 1960s in the UK for child sex offences, and served time in UK prisons under various assumed names. They have a son who was busted several years ago for rape of a minor - a 12 year old I think.

Also linked to these two is the UK's ambassador to Saudi Arabia - Sherard Cowper Coles - whose criminal record in the UK has also been officially expunged (by Thatcher and Major and then upheld by Blair) in return for a plea bargain that confirmed Jonathan Aitken as being Agha Hassan Abedi's No 1 bagman and slush fund controller for child prostitution rings in the far east. Cowper Coles was previously UK Ambassador in Tel Aviv and arranged for Lord Levy to have access to sensitive intelligence amassing databanks from Jordan, Israel and Pakistan that contributed to the WMD information which was used as a pretext for the Iraq war by Blair. Before that, he was PPS to UK Foreign Secretary Robin Cook. I have personally known then for nearly 30 years. Cowper-Coles wife, Bridget (nee Elliot, a niece of the late movie actor Denholm Elliot: remember the butler Coleman in 'Trading Places'?) gave an alibi to the UK journalist who calls himself Peter Truell and is credited as writing informative accounts about BCCI - much quoted on DU postings about BCCI.

I think Octafish has some links to his publications.

Truell is an alias. He is wanted for serious sex offences in the UK against minors, murder of a police officer and illicit slush fund payments facilitations for Prince Charles. Also an IRA-style bombing in London's Kings Cross in the later 1970s. Truell's plea bargain affidavits about Jonathan Aitken and the Thatcher BFEE connection state that the original 'Prince William' and 'Prince Harry' were murdered in 1985 by Prince Charles and lookalike substitutes inserted. 'Truell' is a known rent boy of Prince Charles - as the central London venereal diseases unit attached to Charing X hospital attested to when Aitken was initially busted. 'Brigett Cowper Coles nee Elliot' served time in the UK's Fordham women's prison in the late 1970s for money laundering, theft, perjury and conspiracy to pervert.

The Previous UK ambassador to Saudi - Derek Plumbly - also has a paedophile record in the UK which was covered up by Thatcher when she became PM in 1979. He had financial dealings also with the Sultan of Oman which proved that Far East child sex rings regularly serviced the Omani royalty and were paid for via BCCI transferrs out of Dubai. These in turn are linked to similar child prostitution scandals involving the Rule of Sharjah - one of the UAE emirates - Shaikh Sultan Bin Mohammed al Qasimi. The list goes on and on and on.

I don't expect any of this will emerge in public before a major UK/US paedophile scandal breaks in the UK. The BCCI class action in London is pacing itself by confining remarks to opening of the historical background of BCCI. Here is a quote from London's Evening Standard, Tuesday 10 February:

Bank's alert on 'devil' BCCI:
The Bank of England told the Malaysian Central Bank to treat disgraced BCCI "like the devil", the High Court heard today. BCCI had applied for a licence to open in Malaysia in 1985 and the Malaysians asked for the Bank's official view. A Bank official warned about a lack of transparency in BCCI's operations and inadequate supervision, Gordon Pollock QC for Deloitte & Touche told the court.

*** Back to the Abraham family in North London. They themselves were part of an unsuccessful bid in the late 1980s and early 1990s to steal the ownership documents of a large tract of commercial land - just around the corner from the Bahai Temple in Compayne Gardens, London NW6 that Dr David Kelly used as his IRA contact base - that is about to be redeveloped for new railway links/shopping malls/hotel and leisure complexes. The case went to court many times and revealed a large group of IRA sympathisers who wanted to be paid off for giving evidence about Thatcher's BFEE involvement and attempt at coup d'etat financed by BCCI coke funds. Various plea bargain deals were struck and showed a fund flow connection to UK stuff connected to Whitewater and the Clintons.

Upshot was that Abrahams' unresolved felonies were pased over and the plea bargains stuck. A couple of weeks ago, the head of the London Borough of Camden's social services - a woman called Penny Held - and the Labour Party Executive member chairning the social services committe in Camden - Penny Abraham - both suddenly left their posts "by mutual arrangement". Held is a known acolotye of ex-Tory party leader Ian Duncan Smith who was ousted before Xmas last year and replaced by Michael Howard. The breaking story that is allegedly imminent says that Camden Council deliberately withheld evidence 3 years ago about paedophile activities in their care homes for orphaned/at risk children in the 1980s. The case went to court and was thrwon out by the judge because both the Crown Prosecution Service and Camden Council 'counldn't find the documents'....

This link known sex offenders who were also IRA mercenaries who worked as care staff in these Camden Council homes. Some of these link to a ring that Dr David Kelly was financially involved with, along with Cowper Coles and Plumbly. It puts Ian Duncan Smith in a bad position because it shows his personal military record to be a sham and names him as the NO 1 UK mercenary working for Opus Dei to hide their involvement in UK and US sex rings.


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:17 PM
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60. Hey yea where is the sex 9215?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:09 PM
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53. my bad please ignore
Edited on Mon May-24-04 10:14 PM by 9215


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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:26 PM
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57. A friendly Kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:03 PM
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58. Thanks, redqueen! Hey, this is a good time to bring up PNAC's goals.
Here's a great summary of what PNAC (The Project for a New American Century) is about -- the Fourth Reich. Funny how these characters seem to always go where the money is -- whether it's petrodollars, derivatives or narcodollars.


The 'Right' Way To Dominate The World

Harley Sorensen, Special to SF Gate
Monday, September 30, 2002
SF Gate

EXCERPT...

The plan was drawn up and published by a conservative think tank known as "The Project for the New American Century." It was published in September 2000, before Bush was elected president.

According to another report, this one in The Moscow Times, an outline of the plan was drawn up much earlier, in 1992, when George H.W. Bush was president and anticipating re-election.

The team that drew up the first version was headed by Dick Cheney, then secretary of defense and flushed with success over the Gulf War. Others involved included Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Zalmay Khalilzad ("special envoy" to Afghanistan), John Ellis ("Jeb") Bush, and I. Lewis ("Scooter") Libby (Cheney's current chief of staff).

SNIP...

What I'm calling the plan to take over the world was titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses -- Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century."

The think tank that wrote it is headed by William Kristol, often seen on television as a conservative commentator. According to a Sept. 17 editorial in The Charleston Gazette, Kristol was paid $100,000 a year by Enron, the troubled energy broker.


CONTINUED...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/09/30/hsorensen.DTL



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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:11 PM
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59. Bill Kristol taking payola from Enron?
I'm *shocked*! *Shocked* I tell you!

LOVE your posts, Octafish. :)

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