Should Dennis Kucinich be allowed to speak at the Dems Convention?

[Cascadian]

Poll question: Should Dennis Kucinich be allowed to speak at the Dems Convention?

I think Dennis Kucinich has done an outstanding job in keeping the progressive issues out there. The DLC mushy middles must not be allowed to silence the left. I also believe that John Kerry really should consider adopting some of Kucinich's platform.


Does anybody think that Dennis should be allowed to speak before the Democratic Convention in Boston?


John

[freetobegay]

1. This ought to knock your socks off!

I support the DLC, and yes Kucinich should be able to speak! Peoples hatred for the DLC in unfounded & when they realize that, they will be much better for it.

[Cheswick2.0]

22. our "hatred" of the DLC is not unfounded

The DLC has earned their bad reputation. I know several former members who feel exactly as I do.

[freetobegay]

27. I'm glad hate is not a "family Value"

That alone will add years to my life.

[bobthedrummer]

2. He called Bush a liar-of course he's going to speak.

I voted for him in Wisconsin.

He has delegates.

[Solidarity]

4. Yes

YES!

[Eric J in MN]

15. I voted for Kucinich in Minnesota (nt)

nt

[Yupster]

3. Why not

There willl probably be over 100 speakers at the convention. No reason ech candidate shouldn't get his ten minutes.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

5. I support his speaking at the Convention 100%!!!

He's not some Full Fledged DLCer(Repub-Lite)!!! He's a true voice for progress!

[JohnKleeb]

6. nothing would please me more

This is the man we should have nominated, I am happily supporting Kerry mind you but you just think why not Kucinich, sorry for the wimpering, feeling bad about other stuff now and it shows.

[Lenape85]

10. Here Here

:)

[JohnKleeb]

12. I'll be all right

sigh.

[newyawker99]

38. Hi RCNJEnvStudiesMajor!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Lenape85]

13. Here Here

I couldn't agree with you more. I'm a Kucinich Democrat voting for Kerry.

[JohnKleeb]

14. it's not as if I dont like Kerry, he was my second choice

it's just, why not Kucinich? but the good news is that Bush will be out.

[pinto]

7. why not? he's a Democrat.

[FlashHarry]

62. How 'bout Zell Miller?

He's a Democrat, too. Or Richard Perle. He claims to still be a registered Democrat--as does Bob Novack, by the way.

[AntiCoup2K4]

67. Wouldn't be surprised if the DLC tried to work them in.

But I'd rather hear from real Democrats like Kucinich and Dean :)

[Zinfandel]

82. Were they running for President, representing the Democratic party?

Are they progressives? liberal, true Democrats?

Do they have a strong FDR progressive message and platform, that the republicans want to abolish?

Dennis Kucinich does!!!!

The DLC sucks!

http://www.kucinich.us/

[movonne]

8. Yes, yes a thousand yesses.

[sweetness]

9. I would worry if he didn't

speak or if he couldn't speak. It would confirm my fears about the current state of the Democratic Party.

[dweller]

11. and to make sure his ideas ARE heard

be sure to sign on to the petitions at his website...

"The Kucinich Campaign wants to make sure that Bush is defeated this year. But a weak Democratic Party that fails to
meet today's challenges won't win the election. To help align the party platform with the values of most Democratic
voters, we are collecting signatures for six petitions, reflecting our most urgent national priorities.
Our goal is to present a million signatures to the final Democratic Party Platform Committee meeting which will take place in Florida on July 9th and 10th, as a complement to our efforts on the ground at the Democratic National Convention in Boston."

You can read them and sign them here:
http://www.kucinich.us/petitions/

they include:
UN in and U.S. out of Iraq
Universal Health Care
Jobs and Trade
Repeal the Patriot Act
Create a Department of Peace
LGBT Civil Rights

peace,
dp

[pinto]

17. I support your voice in the party and its platform. One point about the PR

release though: most Democratic voters did not vote for Kucinich. That's just a bottom line numbers fact.
Good luck on your efforts in Boston. You will be heard.

[Cascadian]

20. Already did!

:hi:


John

[bywho4who]

16. You Bet YOUR _ _ _ I DO

Since the DNC&The press have completely marginalized him for another bonez boy you better believe I do I can't wait for him to tell America how it really is.




:smoke: :hippie:

[Doosh]

18. no, too controversial

[Cascadian]

19. Why is he too controversial?

eom


John

[Doosh]

40. that must be a pretty big rock you live under

you're crazy to think America is ready for Kucinich to take the podium at the convention. I don't think he's an extremist, but most of America will.

[GreenPartyVoter]

71. People think it's extreme because they don't hear that message often

enough.

You say something with enough frequency, people start to believe it, or at least get used to it.

The GOP certainly know this.

[Beatrix]

75. Yet the republicans can run

a right wing nut that beleives god told him to invade Iraq.

I always find that interesting... Dems can't run a person on the left because most of america is "middle", yet republicans can run hard right fascists who want to destroy every ounce of freedom in this nation and that's just fine. So fine in fact that we have to try to get closer to them to win.

Sounds like more DLC double think to me.

[GreenPartyVoter]

87. Welcome to DU :^)

[TheFarseer]

33. I tend to agree with you

I don't know why he provokes such a negative reaction with republicans and moderates. Although I do think that if this many strong democrats like him so much, it's the least we can do for the parties most loyal people.

[dweller]

58. They fear the eyes

that sees through the lies.

DK will invigorate the convention with his words.
dp

[Vladimir]

21. Of course

Kucinich is a hero.

[kiahzero]

23. I voted yes

Let every one of the former candidates speak: From Lieberman in the center-right, to Kucinich on the left. Show the world how broad a party the Democrats are.

[bossfish]

84. When Joe-mentum speaks....

...will be when my dog gets a walk

[happynewyear]

24. reservations for the convention being taken now

I just noticed this the other day. Can anyone say Boston '04!?

I'd love to go, anyone else?



http://www.kucinich.us/convention/housing.php

[Zinfandel]

25. Fuck YES! Kucinich WILL absolutely speak at the Dem Convention. After all

Dennis is a lifetime liberal progressive DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!

http://www.kucinich.us/

"I have just concluded three days of campaigning in Alabama, and all of the mythologies about the deep South and the inability of the Democratic Party to register victories in the deep South ought to be challenged because what I saw and heard was an effort by so many people, Democrats and Independents alike, to demonstrate a connection with the highest vision of this country.... And so I'm grateful to all those who helped put the campaign together there.

"I'm also grateful to all of you who have been responding in the last few days to increase the level of your contributions. We have a few more primaries and caucuses left. With your help we are going to continue to score progressively higher totals, but it really depends right now on you going to our web site to contribute and to increase the level of your contribution."

[happynewyear]

26. DK = the best choice

Too bad other don't realize it zin ... :D :hi: ;-)

[Deja Q]

28. Is somebody in the DLC trying to keep Kuninich out?!

Kucinich must speak.

Kerry must adopt some of his ideals.

For the Dem party to censor its own... What I have to say about that, if true, would do more than push the proverbial envelope... so it's best left unsaid, I suppose. x(

Though I will say he should not be barred and the fact that the DLC wants to do this... (better stop myself here...)

[freetobegay]

29. HypnoToad, no one in the DLC is trying to stop Kuninich

From speaking. It's whats called propaganda bullshit. We have some here that are resorting to NEOCON tactics!

[NV Whino]

32. Absolutely yes.

Here's a poll I've been following at democrats.com. After eliminating all other candidates they are down to Kerry and Kucinich. In poll #51 Kucinich is 68% and Kerry at 34%. Dennis keeps climbing in each successive poll.

Not only should Dennis speak, he should be nominated!

[happynewyear]

59. wow that's very interesting info.

Perhaps DK was right, in the end, it will all come down to the war! He is picking up delegates all over the place. Maybe he does still stand a chance of winning! :party: Damn, I HOPE SO!!!!!

:dem: :kick:

[Zinfandel]

79. Yes indeed, NV Whino, I agree.............................

And DK and all the rest of us will give 100% to Kerry, after the primaries, (over in two weeks) to help kick the "Bush Crime Family" out of the WH...Even if BushCo plans on and will exploit Black Box Voting (BBV).

Absolutely, Kucinich NEEDS to & MUST be heard...his great, wonderful, progressive message will open and blow the sleeping indifferent mainstream America's collective minds!!!

http://www.kucinich.us/



:kick:

[AntiCoup2K4]

69. The only neocons in this party are the DLC

That traitorous piece of shit Will Marshall being a prime example. He's an actual PNAC'er, for Christ's sake!

[lastknowngood]

30. Why should he be allowed to speak? He is for progressive

issues and the dem platform will be a DLC fest. I doubt if you will be able to tell the difference from the repug platform. Nothing he would say would be in the platform, it would just be to appease the real dems and mean nothing in the long run. I suggest we try to impose some real dem planks in the platform and if we have to do so do it in the streets and down the road. Look until we get our party back we will never make a difference. Let's try our best to drive a stake in the heart of the DLC/DNC/RNC>

[freetobegay]

34. Going by what you say

There is no difference in voting for Kerry or Bush?

[Le Taz Hot]

64. I wasn't aware there were any real progressives

left on this board. Good to see some of you are still hanging on. And you're right, there is no difference.

"Meet the new boss . . . "

[onethatcares]

31. Yes, he should be allowed to speak

This is the candidate that best expresses my feelings. My vote for Kerry is a vote in absententia for Dennis.

[Solidarity]

35. In Primetime

Not 4:00 AM in the morning when people won't see and hear him.

[cheezus]

36. I just stuck my Dennis bumpersticker on my server

old dual celeron linux box.

[spanone]

37. Yep.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. absolutely!!!!! and they better allow him to!

[smirkymonkey]

41. Idealistically, Kucinich was my first choice

Kerry was my practical choice, although I am now questioning that. However I will continue to support him as I think the platform he is running on is more conservative than his real agenda once he is in office.

I hope to hear from him more and more - we need his voice. The Democratic party has shifted way too far to the right.

[banana republican]

42. YES

we do not need to have the re-puke requirement that candidates sign an agreement not to criticize their opponents.

Chris Vance in the Other Washington(state) has required His fellow Re-pukes to sign an agreement *not* to criticize there fellow re-pukes. Republicans(who I respect) who refuse to sign the Re-puke agreement are forbidden from speaking at the Re-puke convention.

Let's hear it for freedom of speach..............

[AntiCoup2K4]

70. What do you expect from Chris Vance?

The man's almost as much of a fucking imbecile as Junior!

[Darranar]

43. Yes, certainly! n/t

[LWolf]

44. Yes. Prime time. n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

45. Absolutely! In a sane world, DK would be our nominee. eom

[laura888]

47. bingo! I second that! n/t

[Oddman]

46. There will be two stages at the DNC

one for the main acts and one for the supporting acts . . .

[Justice]

48. Here is My Take

Bush* must be defeated. He must.

Dennis has many good things to say - but I would not want to see speeches at the convention which serve as an attempt to emphasize any large or small differences in the dem party.

Dems need to work together to defeat Bush. Once we do that, we can discuss our differences.

[democracyindanger]

49. Of course he should

And I resent your implication that there's an effort to prevent him from doing so.

[mot78]

50. Of course

He has just as much of a right of a any other prominent Democrat. His speech would also help keep would-be Naderites at bay.

[stickdog]

51. Yes, of course. If he isn't, there will be more than a little

Nader to pay!

[Ripley]

52. Absolutely. Why not.

That is the question.

[Cleita]

53. Allowed? Not only that,

he should be invited as a key speaker. I wish Kerry would have the vision to ask either him or Dean to be VP. Enough of moving to the center with right wing choices like Lieberman and McCain. Those of us who aren't exactly enchanted with Kerry need a ticket that will excite us to vote, not just go to the polls for duty's sake.

[left is right]

56. I love DK

I hope he speaks primetime at the convention. I would love to hear him expound on the very real threat to our constitution brought on by *co. But please don't pick him as VP. We will lose his good, honest voice in congress and we can't afford to lose even 1.

[Cleita]

57. So Dean would be okay with you?

The second honest voice our side has?

[left is right]

61. HD is an honest voice

We need everyone we can get--I hope he speaks at the convention, too.
As for Vice President, Surgeon General, Chief of Staff, Secretary of ?? I feel great about any of them. But as I see it a choice of HD in any capacity does not take a good honest Dem from Congress. We have too few as it is

[leesa]

54. Absolutely! As one of the few Americans with a brain, let him speak!

[mmonk]

55. Absolutely

[notbush]

60. ANY candidate that has received the number

of votes Dennis has , must address the convention.
However.....I'll bet he will be addressing the the convention at 3:30 in the afternoon on the first day of the convention.
AHHHHH democracy ....what a wonderful thing.

[dweller]

63. little

:kick:






dp

[mithnanthy]

65. Definately!

Kucinich was my first choice, since Al Gore wasn't going to run.

[DinahMoeHum]

66. Absolutely! as the keynote speaker. Or Howard Dean.

n/t

:kick::kick::kick:

[proud patriot]

68. Of Course he should be allowed to speak

All Sides Of The Democratic Party need to
be represented at the convention IMHO.

[redqueen]

72. He'd better be allowed to speak

This party has done all it can to marginalize or outright eschew left liberals. It's really hurt us at the polls.

What makes you say that DLC must not be allowed to silence the left? Is there any basis for that statement?

[PATRICK]

73. Exclusion equals fear of

a man who was both right and a true Democrat??? he more than earned his absolute right to speak at the convention. Sour grapes Lieberman is another matter if he can't leave his more divisive faux GOP wish list at home, but otherwise he earned it too. Everybody gave a needed contribution and examination in the primaries.

Actually we need those people who can bring the house down and we seem to have a LOT of them now that I think of it. NO, determining the ORDER will be the headache and I wouldn't even want to start a post about it.

[Beam Me Up]

74. I'll vote for Kerry but I WANT Kucinich! n/t

[eridani]

76. Not just yes, but HELL YES!

He brought the house down at the Maine State Dems convention.

[doubles]

77. Hell Yeah!!!! nt

[Zorra]

78. I hope he says this: "Yes, Senator Kerry, I accept the VP nomination."

[Moloch]

80. Why shouldn't he?

He was an important part of the primary season and has lots of followers now. In my opinion, the only person who should be absolutely barred from speaking at the convention is Zell Miller..

[yellowdawgdem]

81. what Beatrix said : ) eom

[Zinfandel]

83. DOUBLE KICK!!!!

:kick: :kick:

:smoke: :hi:

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4806639.html http://www.kucinich.us/

http://www.kucinich.us/video/



Donate!!!!...To someome...Kerry, great, http://www.johnkerry.com/about/ ...Kucinich, fantastic, but do DONATE!!!!

[Zinfandel]

85. Never seen such a lopsided "poll" on DU...

Yes, DK should speak in prime time...Fuck the DLC...and how they want to ignore Kucinich.

[Jose Diablo]

86. With progessive delegates

Kucinich in '08.

[arwalden]

88. Sure, of course he should speak... the big question would be "When?"