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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:18 AM
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If Al Quaida has any offensive capability, now's the time to show it
I noticed that "Al Quaida" only attacks when it benefits Bush and his junta, and never attacks when it would be most opportune, like right now when everyone's looking at a flag draped casket and presumably paying less attention elsewhere.

Also, to attack now would be a major blow against Bush and would illustrate his incompetency right when he's being compared to St. Reagan. Since this would be an opportune time to do it, if they're going to do it at all, and Bush has promised us we'll have an attack between a few weeks ago and the election, why not now?

Why the silence? Could it be that "Al Quaida" is a fabrication of the US black ops people? All the evidence points that way so far, doesn't it? Especially when you look at who benefits and the timing of these events.

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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:21 AM
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1. I was ready to blast you...
But your post makes a fair bit of sense. I wish I wasn't so conspiracy-minded, but evidence speaks volumes.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:22 AM
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2. Um, not really
al Qaeda does in fact seem to attack to support Bush... this is because they know he's easy to manipulate. Holy war with Islam? You got it. Stupid war in Iraq allowing al Qaeda to marshall it's forces? That too.

I believe that the group is actually on record as supporting Bush, since he's playing right into their hands ('cause he's just that dumb, I suppose).
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:26 AM
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5. Exactly. A mistaken premise that they are against Bush
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 06:27 AM by NewYorkerfromMass
They obviously love Bush and his end times strategy.
Iraq is now the heaven of terrorist breeding grounds.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:29 AM
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3. while I don't believe it's "black ops" I do think it is WAY exaggerated
by flashing the klieg lights of media hyperdrive, daily terror alerts, books, military action, etc. etc. the Bushies have taken what was a threat and magnified it by showing us the "towering" shadow reflection of Al Queda.

Truth to tell, the likelihood of them pulling off such an attack was already extremely low. Now that it has happened, even minimal vigilance all Americans would be bound to feel dramatically lower the odds.

This admin magically managed to fabricate a HUMONGOUS bogeyman that is not strategically a problem like China. Without Russia, our government searched and searched for some new EVILS to focus on and ramp up the fear so they could restore previous military budgets. It is sick.

ON top of that....they get to destroy our precious liberties at home.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:32 AM
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4. There's something funny about the claims too.
Sometimes when "al-bad guys" make an untraceable claim on some obscure website about an attack that benefits *, our guys say, yup, see, al-bad guys did it, no question about it -- front page news all over. But for other attacks that don't seem to offer any benefit to *, when there is a similar untraceable claim, they jump in immediately and say, nope, fake for sure, no way THOSE bad guys did it. Like how can they be so sure unless....
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 06:58 AM
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6. First of all, it's only Americans who are obsessed with Reagan
For the rest of the world, it's way down the news agenda by now.

Secondly, you are assuming that the major al Qaeda attacks (you seem to be ignoring the minor ones, like the American killed in Saudi Arabia yesterday) can be scheduled any time they like, so that when a US ex-president pops his clogs, they can just say "quick, bomb the USA, it'll make Bush look bad". I think their major attacks are more precisely planned than that.

Personally, I think al Qaeda really has been limited in movement by the arbitrary arrests, expulsions, and denials of entry of loads of Muslim people in the US. Among those detained are probably people that al Qaeda would have used if they planned an attack in the USA.

And I think you need to explain how the timing of al Qaeda attacks has really benefited Bush, compared to other times they could have chosen. For instance, was the train bombing in Spain timed for maximum benefit to Bush? I'd say not - he'd be better placed if Aznar was still in power. Unless you think that the reaction of the Spanish electorate was unexpected.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:18 AM
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7. It probably was (unexpected, that is)
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 09:19 AM by kiahzero
If in fact al Qaeda was hoping to influence the election, they were probably hoping that the Spanish would have a "protect me, strong man!" impulse after the bombing that would end up supporting Aznar.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:31 AM
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8. Hah! You mean ...
nobody expected the Spanish Electorate!

Their chief weapon was surprise. Surprise and fear. Their 2 chief weapons were surprise - I'll come in and do this again.
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