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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:01 AM
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Bush stresses "the importance of authentic faith" (Pres. Prayer Team Site)
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 11:02 AM by Bush_Eats_Beef
I think a person's faith helps keep perspective in the midst of noise, pressure, sound--all the stuff that goes on in Washington. A person's faith helps you keep vision. As a matter of fact, helps clear your vision--is a vision. It is one of the prayers I ask is that God's light shines through me as best as possible, no matter how opaque the window.

I'm in a world of, sometimes a world of fakery, and obfuscation, political back shots, and so I'm very mindful about the proper use of faith in this process. And you can't fake your faith, nor can you use your faith as a shallow attempt to garner votes, otherwise you will receive the ultimate condemnation. And therefore, the best way for faith to operate in somebody is, as I said, to let the light shine as opposed to trying to defend or alter or get my job mixed up with a preacher's job.

And the only way you can do that is just be yourself, without crossing any lines of politics and religion. Separation of church and state important in America. And by that I mean the people of faith should participate in the state, and there's a difference.


--George W. Bush in Christianity Today, May 28, 2004

Edited to include URL: http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:03 AM
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1. JEEZZZZUUUUUUSSSSS enough with the faith crap already Bush*
:puke:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:03 AM
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2. Hey! Un-hijack my spiritual beliefs you fiend!
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:05 AM
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3. ultimate condemnation
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 11:05 AM by Corgigal
yeah GOD doesn't allow your nutty ass to be re-elected.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:07 AM
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4. real christians vote democrat.
sorry, w.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:21 AM
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5. The false prophet speaks
Ugh.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:27 AM
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6. Who the Fok Died and Left bush incharge???
oh, I forgot....Saint Raegan. bush has super powers, he can see who has authentic faith...and who does not. bush, you for sure don't know shit about faith....you piece of shit.

"Politics is not religion and we should govern on the basis of EVIDENCE NOT THEOLOGY." Prez WJC
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happyending Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:27 AM
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7. Who would
Jesus torture?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:25 PM
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18. Jesus was not very fond of the people of Capernaum ...
So? ... he condemned them to hell ....

Luke 10:10 - 10:15
But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,

Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.

Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.

And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.


Ehem ... well: he apparently didnt care much for Chorazin and Bethsaida either ....

Mind you: the 'crime' here ? ... not being 'received' ....

So goeth the justice of righteous creedalism ....
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:28 AM
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8. this wd be funny
if the pathetic, manifest-destiny POS wasn't capable of annihilating us all.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:29 AM
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9. It doesn't even make sense grammatically
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 11:30 AM by Justice
particularly the last paragraph.

....be yourself, without crossing any lines of politics and religion." ?


Separation of church and state important in America.

And by that I mean the people of faith should participate in the state, and there's a difference.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:27 PM
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19. We might call that a non-sequitur ... if we were so inclined
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:28 PM
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20. I was thinking the same thing Justice...WTF is he trying to say?
Just shut the hell up George, go join Reagan and the rest of the lying politicians in politician purgatory.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 05:25 PM
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26. It makes no sense because it's not really what he feels.
He can be quite clear when speaking of killing, punishing, getting revenge and other antagonistic or pathologically anti-social postures. He's very at home with antipathy. He's nowhere near comfortable with spirituality or faith. Those are clothes that just don't fit, no matter how much he tugs at 'em.
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:29 AM
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10. What he really means is:
I'm in a world of, sometimes (always) a world of fakery, and obfuscation, political back shots, and so I'm very mindful about the proper use of faith in this process. And you can't (can easily) fake your faith, nor can you (and it's simple to) use your faith as a shallow attempt to garner votes, otherwise you will receive (who gives a shit about) the ultimate condemnation. And therefore, the best way for faith to operate in somebody is, as I said, to let the light shine (never admit to making a mistake) as opposed to trying to defend or alter or get my job mixed up with a preacher's job (I'm not a preacher, I'm the freakin' Pope!).
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:36 AM
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11. If we let religion control our government policies,
We will get the government controlling our religious policies.

I want to choose my religion. I don't want it dictated to me from the government.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:37 AM
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12. Is he calling himself an opague window?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:44 AM
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13. his usual b.s. doublespeak
:puke: can't watch him on tv, can't even read his drivel
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:52 AM
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14. He used "obfuscation" in an interview?????
Boy, I would LOVE to hear the audio on that one.

:eyes:

"Separation of church and state important in America."


Yeah, so are verbs.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:09 PM
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17. Well, he does practice these things...supposedly...
...of course, in Dubya's case, practice doesn't always mean perfect.

I wonder how many flash cards, sock puppets, and "Hooked On Phonics" drills were required before he mastered that one.

:toast:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:59 AM
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15. Well, he certainly has identified himself, hasn't he?
From now one, let none of us say he's "oblivious", or "deranged" or "out in left field".

Note the words, "otherwise you will receive the ultimate condemnation".

George, you surprise even me. I thought your brain was half-gone. Apparently, you know exactly what you are doing, and the price you will have to pay.

Good job! (pulls out a sticker) You get a Mr. Happy face.
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I thought so. Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:34 PM
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16. Buggar off, undisclosed primate.
Betty rules. America's best Christian.
http://www.bettybowers.com
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:30 PM
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21. how about the importance of an authentic president
f***ing asshole
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:36 PM
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22. He's totally out of his fucking mind.
Seriously.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:39 PM
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23. It is not his job to tell me
anything about what kind of religious faith anyone should or should not have. The only mitigating factor is that he spoke it to a religious magazine, and that's damn small.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:47 PM
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24. "no matter how opaque the window"
:crazy: What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:50 PM
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25. So, did God tell Bush to torture the POWs in Iraq?
Maybe AssCrash is covering up for God too!
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