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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:28 AM
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Has your opinion of Colin Powell changed over the last couple of years?
I see him on TV with Kofi Annan. And it seems to me he is no better than any of the other liars of this Administration. He came into his job with a sterling reputation, justified or not. He was considered the most respected person in American politics.

But after his performance at the UN prior to the invasion, many have changed their opinions about him. He never apologized for the lies he told before the world. In my opinion, he does not deserve the respect he had previously.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:33 AM
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1. I naively thought, at one time, that...
he was the only Bush person that had some integrity, I no longer think that. After his disgusting performance at the UN and the fact that he KNOWINGLY spewed the lies he did, he is scum like the rest of them, imo.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:40 AM
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22. Same here. What a disappointment!
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:51 AM
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25. Powell and integrity
you can put money in the bank,integrity is not bankable,Powell is a greedy houseboy,Mr.Belafonte had it so right.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:34 AM
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2. I have definitely lost respect for him
I thought he was one of the few good aspects of Bush Inc., but it turns out he's a company man after all.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:35 AM
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3. Nope, I still think he's a house n-word
My opinion of him hasn't changed for over a decade.
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:39 AM
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10. Harry Belafonte agrees with you, gratuitous
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:35 AM
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4. My opinion of Powell hasn't changed...
... since I learned about the part he played in the My Lai massacre and coverup.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:37 AM
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5. I lost respect for him in 1991
When he presented faked satellite photos to the UN to prove that Saddam was massing troops along the Kuwait/Saudi border.

Remember that, when the Florida journalist got commercial satellite photos of the same region at the same time and they showed nothing but empty desert?

That's when I first realized Powell was full of shit, this is just chapter 2.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:37 AM
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6. My opnion has not changed, he is the same old lying repukehead
he always has been. Just a lttle more transparent now.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:38 AM
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7. Yes, I admired him when he said (before GWB) that our
military strategy for any action (non-negotiable) must include:

1. A specific, well-defined mission/objective
2. Application of "overwhelming force"
3. Clearly defined "exit strategy"

He based this on lessons learned from US experience in Vietnam.

Well, he's now violated every one of those three.

So, since he's pretty much a sycophant and all-around failure, yes I'm very disappointed with him and wish he would leave his position. His presence is just enabling Bush to get away with a lot.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:38 AM
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8. Nope. Always was a consigliere for BFEE. Just because he speaks in
complete sentences and can wear a suit, doesn't make him less than a thug - which he always was. Glad to know he had to make nice to Villepin and Schroeder these days.
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wes_clark_for_pres Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:38 AM
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9. yep
I had zero respect for him after he fawned to the media about Shrub's first debate performance in 2000 thus giving "serious"credence to Shrub's pathetic performance regarding his foreign policy ideas...He had a serious ax to grind after Clinton exposed his part in the Somalia debacle and whored himself out to the Repukes for the 2000 election...just my opinion. Again, no respect for the guy. I hope that he has serious troubles sleeping at night after all which he has become a part of.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:40 AM
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11. I never held him in high regard
Not even in the slightest. When friends would effuse about him I would ask them to name some things he had done to warrant that praise. The most I ever got was his service in the military and his pro-choice position.
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:40 AM
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12. Nope. He's still a spineless asshole who long ago sold
his soul to the rethugs.

He's been doing the rethugs dirty work for decades.

Remember My Lai?

Guarantee he'll have a nice job with the Carlyle Group when he leaves office.
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:43 AM
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13. Nope
Edited on Thu Aug-21-03 09:44 AM by HERVEPA
Disliked him during Gulf war when in news briefings he dispassionately talked about war's progress, totally ignoring the death and suffering of Iraqi's. He could have done both and sounded more human.

He signed up to work for Bush when he knew what a scum Bush was/is.

He was booed at the Rethuglican Convention for talking positively about affirmative action. Then he went to work for those people.
He has been strongly opposed to gays in the military.

It was clear what he's about a long time ago.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:46 AM
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14. Nope. I didn't fall for his media image under Bush I and I still think
he's a big nothing.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 09:56 AM
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15. Wonder how many careers
he destroyed on his way to the top?

He is standing on their shoulders always was

and always will be. But what the heck, he did

get Little Powell a good job.

180
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:08 AM
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16. That was probably part of the deal...
He agreed to sign on if they would hire his incompetent son?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:14 AM
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17. Not really
In my opinion, "moderate" Republicans are no such thing. They know as well as, if not better than, anyone that the Republican party is controlled by right-wingers with a radical agenda. The fact that they choose to remain in this bastardization of the Republican party and vote people like Tom Delay into leadership positions indicates to me that they must support that agenda.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:23 AM
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18. colin laughed at cracked 'smirky' jokes, at a time when grief for
the dead was everywhere....right after Kofi's speach to the UN employees...when Kofi asked for questions, there was dead silence...and like a true leader, he made himself (and others from his high level staff) available for questions in private...the silence was so very sad...

yet, just minutes later, colin was totally and inappropriately 'smirking' away...like he has acquired shrub's approach to the world...it's hard to call colin a 'diplomat'....

in addition, colin is the FIRST time that a MILITARY GENERAL has filled this sensitive diplomatic position...and it has shown to be totally WRONG person for the position....

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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:24 AM
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19. it reached absolute zero during the UN -presentation
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roberthall10 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:25 AM
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20. I have always thought him overrated
I never thought he deserved the attention he got as a possible prez candidate in the 90's. Then he looked better because the rest of the Bush crowd were so bad. However, he really sold out on Iraq, and I will be glad to see him go next year.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:38 AM
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21. I agree 100%
Sharonann sez

"Yes, I admired him when he said (before GWB) that our


military strategy for any action (non-negotiable) must include:

1. A specific, well-defined mission/objective
2. Application of "overwhelming force"
3. Clearly defined "exit strategy"

He based this on lessons learned from US experience in Vietnam.

Well, he's now violated every one of those three."


I read his book and admired his clear thinking...not any longer.

Dave




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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:46 AM
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23. Like Harry Belefonte said,
he's nothing more than a 'house slave', only Belefonte didn't use the word 'slave'.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:50 AM
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24. NO
I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS A F***ING SELLOUT SKANK.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:51 AM
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26. No. I think he's
a punk, and I've always thought he was a punk. Look who he works for.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 10:54 AM
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27. No, It's Been Confirmed
I always thought that Powell was a moderate, but I also noticed that he never seemed ACT like a moderate. He doesn't stand up for moderation and never has. He's sold it. I always figured if he became Pres. he'd be controlled by the wingers.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 11:03 AM
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28. i used to respect him
now i think he's corrupt filth.

yes, my opinion of powell has changed.
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 11:13 AM
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29. hell yes!!
I don't know why he's being the lap dog that he is. He's very smart and a competent leader but what's going on now is awful. I wonder if Rove is a master at hypnosis, that would explain all sorts of things
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 11:27 AM
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30. I never had a positive opinion
of Colin Powell. He is just another member of the ruling class. He has totally forgotten his working-class roots and become just another Republican. It is all about enriching himself.

No, Colin Powell never had me mesmerized.

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