I can't go to sleep! Saw "Manchurian Candidate" today!

[gauguin57]

I'm too creeped out to go to bed.

George W. Bush and Dick Cheney ARE the "Manchurian Candidates"!!!

I could hear people murmuring in the theater when they recognized, in some scene in the movie, an analog to some well-publicized nefariousness in the Bush Administration. I kept chuckling, when I realized the movie might as well be talking about Halliburton!

The acting by the three principals: Liev Schreiber, Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep, is outstanding. I worship Meryl; and, in this movie, she will make you want to sleep with the nightlight on!!!

Check it out!

[Cleita]

1. I saw the first one, It was a good movie and scary, but most of

us considered it a good scary movie back then.We knew the government was full of crap. I haven't seen the new incarnation, but today it would fit in well with the scare tactics of the cold war. Be afraid, be very afraid, but dont' be afraid of this movie

[gauguin57]

2. The whole "keep 'em afraid of terror and keep 'em under control"

theme definitely runs through the new movie.

The original was GREAT ... it was more subtle than this new one. But the new one definitely has its merits.

[genius]

3. Is the ending good? I'm planning to take someone who hates bad endings

unless she's warned in advance.

[tishaLA]

7. The ending is less good than the original

it lets the air out of the souffle, but them's the breaks. It's still better than Streep's mannered performance. Go see it for the fine acting by Washington, Schreiber, and Jon Voight. And for the taut dirction from Demme.

[leftyandproud]

4. Seargeant gaugin...

gaugin...prentice...57...

[gauguin57]

5. lol!

Yes, Mother ... where is it you want me to go? ***bright light***

When you say "bad endings" ... do you mean, like scary endings, or a poorly constructed ending, or an ending that doesn't answer the basic questions raised by the film ... or what?

I'd say the ending was pretty satisfying.

Caution: listen carefully to everything ... there are a lot of little pieces of information in background television broadcasts in the film, etc.

[belle]

11. I thought there were some major plotholes.

[Dover]

6. It WAS good. And I've often wondered if the whole Bushco gang are

aliens. They certainly don't seem to bleed and there doesn't appear to be any light in their eyes. No one home there.

It also reminded me of a guy in some chatroom...can't remember which it was right now...that complained he had a chip in him, placed there by the military when he was in the service, and it was ruining his life. He was quite serious, and had a deep mistrust of the government and was compulsively posting conspiracy theories. He reminded me of the guy in the movie from the brain-washed army unit, who approaches Denzel at the highschool where he's speaking, and tries to get Denzel to talk about the dreams.....
People in this chatroom treated this guy like Denzel treated his buddy...suggested he get psychological help and kept their distance. He was clearly disturbed and might have been suffering from any number of mental illnesses, OR.........

[Minstrel Boy]

9. That's the thing about mind control.

Despite the government's admissions (i.e., "limited hangouts") of MK-ULTRA, MK-SEARCH, Ewen Cameron's "zombie room" and the rest; even though it's part of the public record that many innocents have been tortured, sometimes to the death, in mind control experiments; even though implants, abuse and EM stimulation are real, there are few subjects which are met with greater derision. Any victim who comes forward will be immediately presumed by most to be quite mad.

FYI, the transcripts of a nine-month Toronto radio series on mind control:

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/ckln-hm.htm

[GCP]

16. Didn't McVeigh say the same thing?

If so, it really makes you think....

[truth2power]

19. Yes, he did. I heard it reported once, maybe.

Then nothing more about it. At the time it made me wonder. :tinfoilhat:

[Tight_rope]

8. Was going to see it tonight...but going tomorrow!

[tedzbear]

10. I loved Meryl in it!!!

She was fun to watch doing her take on the evil mom. If it weren't for her though I would have been bored and disappointed with the remake. The original was better.

[jpgray]

12. Didn't Meryl base her performance in part on Karen Hughes?

This movie is getting classy reviews.

[dmr]

13. That's what I read

Karen Hughes and one other female Republican, but I can't remember who.

[gauguin57]

14. I think it was the Peg-ster.

Peggy Noonan. The other Repuglican woman, I mean.

Yes, the movie does have flaws. The original was much more subtle. But considering what's happening in the news today -- well, the movie has an undercurrent (mostly found in background TV show chatter) of contstant terror alert to keep the sheeple in line.

I do think it's worth seeing, even if it ain't the greatest film to come down the pike.

[dmr]

18. That's it! Karen Huges and Peggy Noonan!

I watched Meryl Streep in an interview recently. She laughed and wouldn't name the two republicans because she had gotten a lot of flak for it before. But she definitely said that she did not pattern the role after Hillary as many suggested.

Karen Hughes is one very scary lady.

[Joanne98]

17. Yes Karen Hughes and Margaret thatcher lol

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

15. The ManChimpian Candidate (nt)