Dear Sweet Jeeezuz, shoot me...

[DemWitch]

I'm agreeing with Pat Buchannon...

[grannylib]

1. OH man, that happened to me once! What'd he say????

[DemWitch]

4. He said the war in Iraq is stupid...

that even if IRAN had nukes we don't go after them... our country is too big into "nightsticking" other governments and it'll be our downfall... Saddam, even if he had nukes we shouldn't have gone...

[IronLionZion]

11. it will be our downfall

you can't piss off the whole world and expect everything to be just peachy. Our punishment may not come tomorrow, or even next year. Many powerful empires have been toppled in the past for the same reasons - arrogance, bullying, belligerent nationalism. People were pretty sure that those empires were infallible, yet they fell anyway.

Russia and China have us in their crosshairs. We're gonna wish we didn't dis them and we'll definitely wish we didn't send our manufacturing to China.

[Morning Dew]

23. We dismantle entire factories, pack 'em up and ship 'em out

to China. But not before we train their workers to operate the machines. It's sickening.

[Cleita]

17. Buchanan has always been against the war in Iraq even

back when Bush was pushing for the IWR. He has been consistent about it. It may amaze you that Bob Novak also was against it back then, but has been mute about it since the invasion.

[ElectroPrincess]

2. Yes, ain't it frightening?

I found myself admitting that at the run up to the Iraq war. It freaks me out but he's a true conservative IMO in the old time sense.

[movonne]

3. Why ???? I heard him on Randi Rhodes sounds like the same

old Pat....

[leesa]

16. He has these moments of lucidity that just startle you. Maybe he's had

a silent stroke.

[barb162]

19. I find myself agreeing with him fairly often

he is enormously sensible on many things and he has a way of cutting to the heart of the matter, especially on issues like Iraq. And he is quite articulate.

[Nite Owl]

5. Scarey ain't it.

I found that happening too. Even Nixon is looking not all that bad these days. The bar has moved so low with *.

[onecitizen]

9. Yeah but just wait till........

he starts up about Kerry and the Swift Boat Liars and you'll see the same ol' Buchanan. I was liking him a little myself seeing him on McLaughlin all the time. But THEN: the Not-so-swift Boaters broke and Buchanan was Buchanan once again.

[havocmom]

6. Had a couple days when I agreed with Buchanan and Al Sharpton

Both! On the same day! Man, reality is getting so weird I may try drugs. My synapses are frying on a regular basis just because the input is so friggin incongruous.

Was reading some news Friday and ended up wandering around the huse, muttering "the Kaiser stole my string", much to my husband's amusement.

[liberalhistorian]

7. I know exactly what you mean,

because I feel the same way! I never thought it would happen, either. And, as someone else on this thread just said, I'd also almost rather have Nixon than Shrub. A lot of true conservatives don't like Bush, though, and the ones I know are really angry about him.

[Chovexani]

8. It's not just you!

I swear to god when Pat Buchanan is the voice of reason we are fucked as a species...

[Cleita]

18. Don't worry about it. When he starts spouting about Israel,

Jews, illegal aliens, and that the holocaust was exaggerated, then you know he hasn't changed.

[barb162]

20. well, 5 or 10 years ago I would have said the same

but things have shifted so far right that old right types like Buchanan and Hatch (Utah) are sounding so normal. SO NORMAL. When Hatch, who I alsways thought of as this extremist years ago and totally hated him, well, now he almost sounds like a statesman compared to DeLay and the rest of the gang of criminals.

You probably are right in your comment about our species if these guys maintain power. The global warming has already started and they will speed it up.

[xcmt]

10. Something to remember.

Keep in mind that Pat Buchanan and certain select conservatives like him often make comments that progressives like us will nod our heads and agree with. But this is only because they're even MORE conservative than Bush and his companions. You usually don't hear the second part of the argument.

For example, the war in Iraq is bad...because we can use those troops to patrol our Mexican border and keep the illegal aliens out of the country. A similar xenophobic argument can be made against NAFTA and free-trade.

We shouldn't attempt to persecute drug users and addicts for possession charges...because left unchecked they'll OD and remove themselves from society.

[vetwife]

12. Theone year he's not on the ballot and wouldhave a shot at winning

is this nuts? He at leasst would draw some votes from Bush !

[Eloriel]

21. Uh, that's not quite true

Or at least you should've made it clear that your "example" was completely fictitious.

That's not to say Buchanan isn't xenophobic (and homophobic, and a lot of other things), just that that's not his actual for objecting to the Iraq war.

[Strelnikov_]

22. So Wide Open Borders And Unrestricted Free Trade

are good for the middle and working class of this country?

Any expression of doubt in our current economic direction is xenophobic?

How does it feel carrying the water for the Capitalist Oligarchs?

[RobinA]

13. That's Alright...

I agreed with Jonah Goldberg about a month ago. It's some quirky statistical thing having to do with random numbers I think. I didn't pay it any mind and it never happened again.

[eridani]

14. No, don't--paleocons agree with us on two things

The war in Iraq is stupid, and NAFTA/WTO is killing our working class. They are nasty culture warrior types otherwise, though.

[Reverend_Smitty]

15. Thats 2 more things...

than I agree with the neocons...hold me someone, I'm scared :scared:

[Nordic]

24. funny thing is they now seem relatively harmless

compared to the neocons.

I used to hate those old Paleos. Now they seem almost charming.