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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:43 PM
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The Dead (Silent) Zone
I’m not an avid Stephen King reader, but I remember years ago being rather engrossed by the Dead Zone. To explain my point I’ll have to be a spoiler for you:

In this book, there are two main characters: one who has recovered from an incredibly long coma, and another whom is a ruthless (not to mention mean and evil) politician. The man awakened from the coma learns has second sight– he can see into the future. As fate would have it, he learns that the ruthless politician will start World War III. This leads him to a dilemma about what to do. (King brings up an analogy in the book concerning “Would one kill Hitler to save many?".) The hero (the coma-awakened man) decides that he has to kill the politician before said politician is, as appears likely, elected president.

The hero hides in a hall of sorts, waiting to get a shot at the politician during a campaign event. However, when the hero rises from the balcony to take his deadly shot, the politican hides behind a child. The hero can’t hurt an innocent and he lowers his gun. It’s over for the hero.

Intrerestingly though, this was a press event. The image of the politician hiding behind the children was revealed to the nation, and his threat was gone.

Hiding behind the children…

The facts are these: The President of the United States was informed that the first plane had hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center before he went in to visit the class. This is indisputable. During his visit, he was quietly informed a second plane had hit the South Tower. This too, is indisputable. He then sat for seven minutes, finishing a story with the children before leaving. This, as well, is indisputable.

George W. Bush claims he stayed “because he didn’t want to scare the children". Does this mean children can’t handle being politely told “good-bye” ? Even if one appeared slightly abrupt to children, are not matters of life and death worth an abrupt change in routine?

Didn’t want to scare the children…

Even if a President doesn’t possess all the requisite knowledge to make a decision, shouldn’t the Office Holder be actively searching and querying people for information when faced with a national disaster? This incident alone should show how ill-suited George W. Bush is for his office. At best his behavior was incompetent, inept, and indecisive. At worst, well…

We wouldn’t want to scare the children would we?

From: http://discevra.org:8088/index.php?p=11">here.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:02 PM
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1. Very ironical, isn't it?

I hadn't thought of that scene for a long time. Thinking back now, I remember how evil that candidate was. King's descriptions, and the emotions they invoke in you stay with you a long time. Thanks for reminding me.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:10 PM
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2. Great
Noticing of a parallel

It's weird how the RW rants about how Palestinian snipers are hiding behind kids throwing rocks to take out Israeli soldiers.

It would be interesting to think of all the times corrupt politicians hide behind children or do awful things in the name of " the children"

Children pull the publics heartstrings,children evoke all the images of family upstanding morale's,yet most child abuse occurs in the home at the hands of caretakers in private. So Hitler allegedly loved kids and dogs and was a vegetarian because cows have such gentle eyes. Yet his directive did get kids tortured by the likes of Mengle away from the German public in camps everyone was in denial about..A torturer doctor.
Someone you trust with your health when you are sick,injured and vulnerable someone supposed to help.Yet he does not care he had his own agenda and the patient was expendable for the hidden agenda.

Making brown eyes look blue injecting their eyes with chemicals with needles,for the children.

Now Bush wants to test every American citizen for mental illness.

Hitler had initiatives like this too. What Hitler didn't have was vagus nerve stimulators implants and Sub dural implants that release Prozac and Haldol and other powerful psychotropic agents and emotional dulling agents slowly into a patient;s bloodstream for 6 months or more.

What about our lives would change if we actually saw 4 years ahead? What would we do today about the future, if we could see the future and understand clearly where this regime is pushing us? What would Bush do if we knew the agendas?
I know what Bush would do, he'd hide behind a child,a fellow and make him take the fall,he's hide behind lies,charisma and P.R.,he's cower behind a flag,a cross,an army or the threat of total nuclear destruction or he'd hide underground in a hidey hole and kill himself before the citizens banged down the door to arrest him.So much like Hitler he would act, dying by his own hand rather than be held accountable to those people he hurt,robbed,lied to,all the people's who's trust he abused .He would rather die than tell the truth and let go of the power he misused.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:17 PM
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8. Hitler's vegetarianism was a Goebbels lie. How much of *s image is too?
Hitler was an odd sort of vegetarian - the sort who loved sausages and whose favorite dish was pheasant. Even now people still believe that he was a vegetarian ascetic. Goebbells propaganda still works. This should give us real pause to think about just how much of what even we aware DUers may have bought into of Rove (Goebbells II) and Hughes' spin on *.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 08:08 AM
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3. Kick for morning
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:06 AM
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4. Bunnypants* as Stillson? You betcha!
And I wonder, given the Total Power of the Goebbels v2.0 Bushevik Propaganda Machine, even IF we had a looking glass to see the Evil of the Second Imperial "Term" (obeyed only because the illusion of freedom is necessary for Virtual Slaves), a majority of the people would refuse to believe their lying eyes and Bushevik propaganda would muddy the waters sufficiently, making it easy to do so.

We have "crossed the Rubicon", as it were.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:56 PM
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7. yep, I considered the stilson/bush connection BEFORE the supremes
selected him as president. The same nonsensical rhetoric that ALMOST makes sense until you analyze it, the same shady past that stilson goes to great lenghths to keep quiet. The apparent greased skid entry into the job that seems a fait d'accompli but is just a wax veneer over horsesh!t.

The only thing that bothers me about the comparison is that the ONLY way to stop WWIII was to kil or discredit Stilson, and I hope that is not part of the comparison.
We just need to get him out of office. Discrediting him, and bringing him up for charges on the warcrimes he's committed would be nice icing on the cake, though.

:)
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:58 AM
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5. It's so funny that you mentioned that scene
I've thought about it so many times over the past few years, only I had a different thought:

There is nothing that Bush could do that would make this press turn on him. If the exact same thing happened right now and Bush used a child to shield himself, the pundits would be all over the airwaves, talking about how Bush is so strong and resolute -- he knew what he had to do to save himself and the country and he did it. Not like Kerry, who would have to call the UN and see if he could duck.

Seriously, this isn't far-fetched.
Think about it: what could Bush do to make the media tell the truth about him?
I can't come up with anything.
Even if the administration started KILLING them one by one wouldn't do it -- in fact, it would have the opposite effect.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:10 AM
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6. Exactly. We have crossed the line into utter Totalitarian Slavishness
The media has been Gleichschaltung "brought into line" and the Imperial Subjects fo Amerika are VERY ready for Virtual Slavery.

In a generation or two, it will be actual and undeniable.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:39 PM
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9. I've found myself thinking the same thing
The same exact photo (of shrub holding up the baby) would appear on all the newsmagazines and and footage of the incident would play in an endless loop on all the networks -- except all the pundits would maintain the fearless Chimp was actually endangering himself to protect the young'un. (Repeat as ncessary in the same way that immediately after the election theft the entire media started yapping about how in order to heal the nation's wounds we all had to pull together behind the new president.)

Then Auntie Rove would make sure the intrepid media started reporting all sorts of vile dirt about the Walken character, most likely that he was on the record as being an evil, whacked out liberal.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:58 PM
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10. then they would discover kiddie porn on Walken's home computer
and then the big discussion would be, "Is it time for the federal government to shut down the Internet?"
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:29 PM
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11. Shameless kick for evening folks --nt
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