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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:26 PM
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Need help dealing with a Freeper
Here's what the Dittohead said (this is on another forum which is really unrelated to politics, but he keeps bringing it up):


On another note, Clinton cut back spending under his administration through drastic cuts in military development, including in the area of intelligence. Way to work it through Willy...Uh where'd those planes come from.


I remember reading that it was actually Oilslick Dick himself who initiated these defense cuts, but I can't remember in my tired state where I read about it. Google hasn't helped so far.

So I implore you, great encyclopedia of knowledge known as DU, help me! :D
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:29 PM
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1. this may help
It's directed at attacks on Kerry, but it's the same years, same cuts they are talking about, I think.

http://ideamouth.com/respect.htm#Intelligence
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:35 PM
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2. Sorry, I'm allergic to Freepers.
I can't get anywhere near them. Even to offer them food. Just posting this will probably give me a rash.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:24 AM
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3. I'll look tomorrow...
...but about six months or so before 9/11, Rumsfeld said we would need much fewer troops than we actually had, and was planning on reducing the size of the military even further.

Clinton did reduce the military. Then again, please remember that on his watch we weren't playing the international version of the Gong Show, waiting to get escorted offstage for being completely hated. (Apologies to folks born after the 1970s and the Gong Show.)

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:56 AM
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4. Republicans were in charge of the House and the Senate
Edited on Sun Oct-10-04 12:57 AM by librechik
most of Clinton's terms. They make the budget, not the president. They did the cutting. Cheney was among the leaders of the cut govt spending gang--they want to put govt out of business so it can't help poor people, only defense contractors.

Besides, we thought we had a post-Cold War "peace dividend" where we could stop making weapons for awhile. That kind of economy isn't enough to saisfy the defense contractors and hawks. They have been agitating for war or the stupid missile defense system forever!

Now they blame Clinton for what they did themselves! That's just the way they are.
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gmaki Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:07 AM
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5. Here is the answer to any Clinton criticism from a freeper
"Alright you've convinced me, I vow to not vote for Clinton in November"
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lpricanprynces Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:19 AM
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6. Enflame him even more by citing Fox News
The New York Times reported Saturday that a top-secret internal document warned the FBI director in the months before Sept. 11 that the bureau faced significant terrorist threats from Middle Eastern groups but lacked the resources to deal with them.

Despite the assessment, Attorney General John Ashcroft rejected a proposed $58 million increase in financing for the bureau's counterterrorism program last Sept. 10.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54237,00.html
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catchthefever Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:00 AM
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7. Raytheon hired over 3000 ppl in 1999
I was hired at Raytheon in 1999 - the defense development was booming. I left to another company and was laid off within a year. Got hired somewhere else, and when Raytheon started laying off in 2002, I see some of my former co-workers coming around for interviews. Now, work is getting pretty light again in the defense industry.
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