Revisiting Falwell's claim on the GOP....after viewing Frontline.

[madfloridian]

This article was posted here in September. It is time to revisit it.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040925/news_1n25christ.html
Falwell says evangelicals control GOP, Bush's fate

SNIP.."WASHINGTON – The Rev. Jerry Falwell said yesterday that evangelical Christians, after nearly 25 years of increasing political activism, now control the Republican Party and the fate of President Bush in the November election...."

SNIP...""The Republican Party does not have the head count to elect a president without the support of religious conservatives," Falwell said at an election training conference of the Christian Coalition.

Falwell said evangelical Christians are now "by far the largest constituency" within the Republican Party, their route to dominance beginning in 1979 with his founding of the Moral Majority, a precursor to the Christian Coalition......"

And just a little dig here:
Howard Dean quotes George Bush about the Christian Coalition:
"I hate those people," he'd once snarled at me when I ribbed him at a White House governors' gathering about some trouble he was having in Texas with the Christian Coalition."

Seeing Frontline brought this to mind. I was raised as a Southern Baptist in the heart of conservative Florida. I am not being critical....just pointing this out. We have Southern Baptist churches splitting here along Conservative/Moderate lines. A church my father helped start in the 60s just did that. It has been heartbreaking to many of our friends, though we do not go there anymore.

The conservatives are against any role of women outside of the home, and women are to be subservient to their husbands. The split was inevitable. My dad would be so sad if he were still alive.

[InfoMinister]

1. PNAC

They need to know about PNAC since they're so scared of the UN and world government and all.

[ibegurpard]

2. If that Bush quote is legitimate

it makes him even more despicable because he's pretending to be one of them.

[madfloridian]

7. I believe it is totally legit.

It would be vintage W, with that flippant attitude.

[Sugarbleus]

3. I missed FRONTLINE... what did they present?

I too have this same article saved on my computer.. :)

[madfloridian]

9. They brought up the Bush conversion, and the strong influence...

that the religious right played in the campaign, even Daddy Bush's campaign.

[Sugarbleus]

16. Was it a "new" piece or a re run?

I did see a piece on this subject with the Bushes some time back. It made me puke then.

Most of us, by now, know that Bush and the neo cons are heavily supported by the RW relgious in this country; it's been in the works for years. I just wish the "blinded" believers could SEE that these people are purely pseudo-religious....CINO There isn't anything deeply spiritual about them AT ALL.


GOD WANTS SPIRITUAL FRUITS, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS!!

[Maat]

4. Funny that you should mention this.

Two years ago, my California/Nevada relatives moved back to Oklahoma, and became intense convservative Southern Baptists. They don't seem to care that they are supporting the SBC, and their resolutions, which are anti-gay, insistent on women 'submitting' to their husbands, and insistent that women may not be pastors.

And my husband, child and I are Religious Scientists (like Unitarians) - very un-fundie, and very Democrats.

[Maat]

5. Big rift in the family.

And Bush could sacrifice a baby on national television - and they would still vote for him.

[madfloridian]

8. They don't seem to care because they feel pious.

I was raised that way, my kids were also. They left that church and found another. We were spared the most rigid parts, as that has happened in this decade.

The church split here is breaking up close friends who are so damn superior they are unbearable.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

6. Just saw on TBN (or whatever comcast 25 is here)...

... saying that 'The Democrats have become the secular party'.

Like secular is a bad word........... and for the righteous to read-between-the-lines.. VOTE REPUBLICAN.

Evidently, republicans will soon have to tatoo 666 on their foreheads to prove their worth to the party.

[Kanary]

12. "Secular"? And all this time, I thought that's what our founders intended

Silly me. :hi:

Kanary

[Dob Bole]

10. I split from the SBC

and went to a "moderate" church (as far as theology goes.)

It's pretty common around here. President Carter left too.

[ladybugg33]

11. But I thought "God wants people to be free?"

He meant except for women in the funddie churches,.

[madfloridian]

13. Only the menfolks.

:hi:

[Andromeda]

14. Wow!

Howard Dean quotes George Bush about the Christian Coalition:
"I hate those people," he'd once snarled at me when I ribbed him at a White House governors' gathering about some trouble he was having in Texas with the Christian Coalition."

But, but, but that's little George's base.

[madfloridian]

15. Yes, indeedy, it is.

I try to put this in for a few digs now and then.