It is now irrefutable: Men are dumber than women.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

Considering the recent polls that state a significant margin of men support Bush while the opposite is true of women.

Ohhhhh, my poor, ignorant brothers. Why dost thou not useth thy brains?

[Lautremont]

1. I've known that for awhile.

Being a man, it took some time to realize. I'm embarassed for all men when I hear stats like that.

[TahitiNut]

66. I've never yet seen a guy that was so stupid ....

... that there wasn't some gal stupid enough to go out with him. :evilgrin:

[Darth_Kitten]

2. A woman didn't remind them to? Ta DUM!!!!!!!

:evilgrin:

snort.. :D

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

3. LOL!!!!!! For that one, I'll forgo the cat juggling comments.

:toast:

[anarchy1999]

4. Take heart. We still love you all.

Ignorant as you may be. Let it never not be said, behind the man is a woman. Many men have left their brains in the park, on the side of the road, who knows? But we, the women of their world are there to pick up the pieces, to support and to carry on. We always have been and we always shall be. Cheers to all of us able to find soulmates that we get to work with to be a positive force for change.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

5. Thank you for your kindness, Ma'am.

My mother was a woman... I wouldn't be here without her.
:dunce:

Editied beekause i gots no idear how to tipe and thinque at the sam tyme... U C, Eye am a Mann.

[anarchy1999]

10. You are ever so welcome. Now go check your dictionary. Edit without.

n/t

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

15. It be edited now....

Pleez chek it out & le me no wut u thinc.

:toast:

[anarchy1999]

19. Made me laugh for the first time today, too funny. I love your humor.

n/t

[Mojambo]

6. This thread is sexist and I'll have no part of it. n/t

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

8. Maybe.... But it's probably true....

I can say it. A am male...


Hmmm.

I am man hear me roar....


LOL

[anarchy1999]

9. This thread is not sexist and welcome, please have no part of it.

n/t

[951]

12. I'm quite sure if I posted the same thread about women it would...

be deleted like the Maria Hassan thread and several Anti-Laura Bush threads.

[Mojambo]

32. Agreed.

There is a double standard that no one seems to mind.

Perhaps it's a necessary over-correction but it seems like anymore there just can't be sexism against men, only against women. I think that's wrong.

JMO though.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

36. There is, but what the hey. We've had our run in the grand stage

Things are evening up and it's about time.

I wrote a short story once in which men were only kept for reproduction purposes only. As long as it doesn't get to that point, I can live with it.

[sangh0]

41. Yeah, right.

Like you would mind being kept around for reproductive purposes only.

I believe ya!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

63. No, in the story, men hid in the swamps of Louisiana and were picked

up for extraction and then snuffed.

Hey getting laid, is fine but in a black widow society? Yeachhh.

[IowaGuy]

46. Hey, I know I'm just a stupid guy...

but that sounds awfully good to me....plumbing, fixing cars, mowing, shovelin' snow, raking, takin' out garbage...or just being kept around for reproductive purposes, sounds like a trade up to me...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

48. LOL.... Not that bad a life in a Zen kind of way

:toast:

[PittLib]

53. Are you available?

'Cause I've got a lawn, a pool, a car, my basement needs repointing...

Is anyone else sick of metrosexuals?

[IowaGuy]

67. You know what old Red says...

"If the women don't find ya handsome, at least let them find ya handy" or somethin' to that effect....

[jdj]

70. I am

sick of metrosexuals

I'm really incensed that the queer eye guys go around chopping off all the hippie guys' hair.

I really need anger management when it comes to that. Just because They don't like it doesn't mean it isn't beautiful.

I think a metrosexual is either a queer on the fence or perhaps a true narcissist like in "American Psycho".

[anarchy1999]

38. You said you were not having any more part of this thread. What gives?

n/t

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

39. You insinuated you were out for a night on the town.....

You're as bad a lurker as I am! LOL!

Have a good time!

[CAcyclist]

43. Oh, right

I can ignore all the sexist terms you guys use against women whose beliefs you don't agree with because I also think they deserve what's coming to them, but god forbid any women (or supportive men, for that point) should get a little uppity.

True discrimination is done by the powerful against the powerless or less powerful. It's not just one group against another. True sensitivity means agknowledging the world we live in isn't equal.

Thus, minorities can be discriminated against, but affirmative action is not discrimination and poking fun at men by women is not discrimination because the men are more powerful, both physically and financially. Thus, what women say are not likely to harm men, whereas what men say about women can have a direct negative effect.

[CAcyclist]

44. My comment is meant strictly for 951.

I don't feel any negative vibe from any other post

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

45. I'm sorry.... And you're a.... woman?

Lighten up, my friend. One of the most wonderful things about the battle between the sexes is that for so long, women just LET men think they were in control. It's just that now, they are getting tired of the facade.

Sorry, but as long as genitalia is distributed the way it is, straight men have the hormonal thing working against them for the first half of their lives.

That isn't a necessarily bad thing, it's just the way it is. You're damn right they were going to try to hang on to the idea that muscles meant righteousness. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. See Dubya.

IMHO, societal evolution is in the process of going into hyper drive. There will be quibbling but as long as biology stays the way it is, the end will justify the truth in that women have definitive control over the existence of "mankind."

[jdj]

71. honeychild, I love you, but you watch too much tv.

"women just LET men think they were in control. It's just that now, they are getting tired of the facade".


Ummhmm...And down here in the south, those slaves really pulled the wool over on those crackers. RIGGGHHHTTT.

[jdj]

69. The thing is, this assertion is supported by statistics.

not that I feel like looking for some, but we say Bush supporters are stupid all the time, and a significant number of them are white males.

The real issue is, what to do about it.

some say, macho up the dem image, the others say court the "special interests" (read non-white, non-male, non-het, etc.) which makes it sound as if at its heart the party REALLY is intended for white men and appealing to minorities is just strategy.

Perhap the folk objecting to the sexism need to put their heads together and come up with a solution to the problem, so we don't have the dilemna of why it okay to call someone stupid UNLESS they are a white male Bush supporter.

[Skittles]

50. what is sexist about pointing out more men support Bush

than do women?

[shance]

64. As a woman, it's pretty sexist and divisive, however well-intentioned

The truth, in my opinion, is of course men are in no way dumber than women.

However, perhaps what the thread intends is to imply that a good amount of men who have been in the *alpha male* seat for centuries, have become largely insulated from the struggles and prejudices that others have had to endure either because they are female and/or have a different color of skin, etc.

Seems to me, when people stay largely insulated from other's experiences, they have little way or understanding (or concern)for other's pain and/or life experiences. I also believe they miss out on really wonderful, life enriching experiences because they remain closed off from opportunities that would open up their world to a much bigger, broader telescope of the world.

[ClintonTyree]

7. Some of us aren't that bad........................

there are some of us that can see through all the bullshit. I know plenty of women that are voting for Bush too, it's not just a male thing. I think it's more of an education thing. The more informed you are on the issues, the more apt you are to be a Democrat.

Don't start drawing battle lines between the sexes on DU now. There's enough arguing going on around here anyway. Chill. ;)

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

11. DG.... This was tongue in cheek.

I would hope that most folks are secure enough in their own being to at least chuckle at themselves every now and then.


Darn it, I even laugh at Jon Stewart when he tags Kerry on a point or two.

Lighten up! Have a beer on me! :toast:

[GodHelpUsAll2]

16. You always have

a few in every crowd that finds something sinister in just about everything. The playfulness in this country has all but died.
But for what it's worth, I thought it was funny and didn't take it literally.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

23. Why thank you Mr. Nametoolongtotype...

A beer or a glass of wine to you sir or Ma'am.

[anarchy1999]

14. I don't think BP was drawing battle lines, I believe he was reaching out

to all of us. I could be wrong. And you are right. Most of you guys aren't half bad. (Just kidding). I'm one of the lucky ones. I have a good man and he makes me love you all.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

18. Thanks, Anarchy. You are correct.

There are a lot of us guys who are pretty decent people.

[anarchy1999]

21. I know and I am very proud to know many of you all, as are many of the.

rest of us "women folk" around this here DU place.

n/t

[greekspeak]

13. Definitely, men have the market cornered on being mouth breathers

I have met some ridiculous men in my time. And the only thing that keeps them from falling completely apart is a woman with sense.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

61. A lot of us are ridiculous...

Especially when we're thinking with our libido.

[hiphopnation]

17. flame war in

5......4......3......2.....1.....


PS I'll take that beer!! :beer: :nuke:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

20. I hope not. I'll still buy you the beer.

If anyone can seriously believe this is sexist, it's my humble opinion that they are just an angry person wanting any chance to blast at another human being.

[hiphopnation]

22. I happen to think it's dead on

so let me buy the next one. I don't take it personally at all. It's true! (coming from a man)

:toast: :beer::toast: :beer::toast: :beer::toast: :beer:

[anarchy1999]

25. I agree 100%. There will not be a flame war on this thread unless

someone lets it happen or wants it to. I'll help buy the refreshments.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

27. Great! Send a bottle of Burgundy to the table!

[anarchy1999]

28. On it's way. I've got to go now and meet my guy on his Friday night,

get over the week, fun fest with all his guys. (he sells ownership in gas wells, so I can protest all the time).

Good luck with this thread, and I'll send over three bottles, looks like you are going to need it.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

31. LOL... I don't pretend to know the reasons, but since there are more

men in the positions of power, it makes sense that they should be targets.


have a great evening!

[Swede]

24. On a serious note,society seems to be hell bent on dumbing down boys.

Look at the movies, the boys are boneheads. In commercials the men are idiots. It isn't cool for boys to be smart. Maybe we're paying the price now with uninformed belligerent men. You know, Bush supporters.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

26. True... But I can handle it. I enjoy laughing at my own foibles more

than laughing at someone elses.

No guilt that way.

Wine or beer?

[Tsiyu]

35. Guinness?

Or a Sweetwater 420.

The fun beer. :party:

Or a Heinie.

Oh, the gender thing? It's best not to take fabricated images to heart. Be what you is.

And if you is a dumbass man votin' for *, some woman needs to have a Come-To-Jesus meeting with you.

:beer: :toast: :beer:

[MADem]

29. Why do you suppose that is?

I've noticed it too. Hapless husbands, helpless fathers. Snarky women. Wiseass little girls. It is unfair all around. What is the societal goal? Payback? Knocking the neanderthals down a peg?

I wish we could get past it all. I'm tired of the man on the riding lawnmower, the men arguing over who has the best lawn, the hapless dad who cannot make a meal, but can manage the microwave, and women being the only ones (except Mr. Clean, of course) who ever mop a goddamn floor or do the laundry so it smells great.

Obviously, this shit works on a huge percentage of the population. But the very fact that we are discussing it tells me we will one day look at those commercials with the same horror that we look at the "Call For Phillip Morris!" commercials, with a childish bellhop shilling cigarettes to happy men with greasy hair and delighted women in puffy dresses.

[Swede]

33. Maybe that is part of America's problem. Triggerhappy greedy,selfish

leadership in commerce and government.

[wickerwoman]

57. Those commercials annoy the hell out of me too.

I think they run on the principle "Screw the job up badly enough and you won't be asked to do it again." So if we pretend that men are just helpless at washing dishes, cooking, cleaning, changing diapers, doing laundry, etc. it reinforces the meme that this is women's work while at the same time giving women a false sense of accomplishment that they can do all the disgusting shit men don't really want to do better than they could.

And it isn't really a new trend. It's been around since the 1920s at least and is probably as old as modern advertising itself.

Plus, it's never really been cool for boys *or* girls to be smart. Or not book-smart anyway. If you read victorian boarding school novels, the hero is always an all-rounder, pretty good at sports, average at school work. The cool kids are the smartasses not the actually smart kids. Anti-intellectualism is as old as mysogyny in this country and probably even more pervasive.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

30. Oops. Answered in the wrong place....

Hey! I just discovered a great excuse for mistakes!

[sandnsea]

49. Excuse for not competing

It's a bitch when boys are in school with girls and girls suddenly get the same rewards for having brains. It's not so easy for guys to pretend their better than girls anymore, so they pretend they don't care. It's a shame, cuz we're not going backwards for the male ego.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

51. Please explore the difference between "their" and "they're" before

making declarative statements in my threads again.

:toast:

[sandnsea]

52. Please explore

3 pregnancies, 28 years of child rearing and working, and menopausal hormones, before nitpicking me on they're and their; a mistake I never would have made in my youth! :)

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

59. Heh... There's days I can barely spell my own name.

:toast:

[Karenina]

34. Why dost thou not useth thy brains?

Hey, BP! Lighten up! The bros ARE using them, it's just that sometimes they spontaneously jump from one head to another! :evilgrin:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

37. LOL.... If only I had always been able to use the brain on top....

I would be a much better person today. :toast:

[camero]

40. Popcorn anyone?

:chomp chomp:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

42. LOL... You have the concept down, my friend!

:toast:

[Forkboy]

47. ain't that the truth?

:)

[ghostsofgiants]

54. You'd think Bush would be more popular with women...

After all, he is a douche.

Yes, I ripped that off from Triumph. Shut up.

[shraby]

55. Can someone enlighten me as to why

men are supposed to prefer Bush more than women? I know women can see through all the macho stuff Bush throws around..they've been there, seen that and what kind of man is usually behind it. But men prefering Bush? :crazy:

[OxQQme]

56. The Age of Aquarius

This past 'age' has been headed up by Marduk aka,Yahwey\male god person of anger and rightesnous (sic). He was a jealous half-brother who tried to take over from his sister prematurely and got bitch slapped for his efforts. Hence the over-the-top angry male single god that we've been led to believe is the 'ONLY' one as told by Moses.
The 'Ages' have turned.
Aquarius is feminine, nurturing, soothing, water sign.
Ishtar\Innana is due to have her 'age'.
John Kerry has it in him to allow feminine power to come to the fore-front.
Hillary rawks..............

[DemBones DemBones]

58. Perhaps it's time to take the vote away from men and allow us women

to have a shot at changing things? Caveat: I have had to argue with female Bush*bots this week and their obdurate insistence on being uninformed was quite obvious.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

60. I was with Tim Leary once when a young Repug asked him how he chose to

cast his vote.

Tim said, first choice was a woman, second was a man of minority and if all there was were white males, the decision got really tough.

God bless you, Tim. I miss ya.

[zippy890]

65. Hillary Clinton would be the best president

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

73. check

[in_cog_ni_to]

62. The world would be a different place if women were the rulers.

IMCPO

I love this little quote:

"Three Wise Women would have. . . asked directions, arrived on time, helped deliver the baby, cleaned the stable, made a casserole, brought practical gifts, and There would be peace on Earth." ;)

:hi:

[Guava Jelly]

68. I resemble that remark

as a man that is.
Actually i am a staunch partisan Democrat who despises the monkey in chief maybe my testosterone is tempered with estrogen? I do have 5 sisters and no brothers

[jdj]

72. Is that really it?

I don't want to beleive this, I don't I don't...

Don't y'all ever wonder about all the repugs that end up being gay men? I mean I'm gay myself, but how can they claim to be "more macho" if by their own definition buggery disqualifies you from that status? I said their own definition so no one go postal on me.

Is it possible it is intellect? I mean really, they did a study of "The O'Reilly Factor" viewers vs. "The Jon Stewart Show" viewers, is it possible that it is just that dem men are smarter people? I wish someone would do a rock solid study on this, because this macho/not macho, feminine voter/masculine voter is just some infectious meme with no data backing it up.

[Cleita]

74. So now can I have the keys to the tractor?

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