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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:03 PM
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WTF? Sinclair is not showing Stolen Honor but is attacking Dems
in a newscast style format. I mean ATTACKING...dems trying to take away freedom of speech. This is WORSE than if they were showing only "stolen honor."
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:04 PM
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1. Who is boycotting, and who hasn't done thier part.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:05 PM
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6. The boycotting has worked...VERY WELL
They were painting the initiative as trying to limit Sinclair's free speech.
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:40 PM
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49. Are you kidding me?
Freedom of press doesn't mean freedom from private repercussion for speech. Especially when that speech is over the broadcast spectrum, which we the public own, and in which Sinclair has no First Amendment rights, according to the Supreme Court in Red Lion Broadcasting.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:31 PM
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70. Sinclair can have ALL the Freedom of Speech he wants.
He can stand on ANY street corner (as long as he doesn't block traffic) and exercise his PERSONAL Freedom of Speech ALL DAY & ALL NIGHT. He is an American and is entitled to do this. I will fight for his right to Free Speech. BUT:

in NO WAY is he entitled to the Irresponsible and Selfish use of the PUBLIC OWNED AIRWAYS to spread whatever his PERSONAL opinions may be!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:04 PM
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2. It's a lot of whiney-butt so far and a lot of lies
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:05 PM
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3. So exercise your freedom
and turn it off!
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:06 PM
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8. I have turned it off
I wanted to see if the TV station had the audacity to show this. I only watched one minute of it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:05 PM
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4. Oh, gosh. Did that lawsuit work?
Somebody didn't want them using his pictures and film?

Damn that private property.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:05 PM
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5. Oh really
Lets see how THAT one works out for them, shall we?
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:05 PM
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7. no ...listen closely
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:06 PM
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9. I hope that everybody is watching this and taking notes
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:16 PM
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This is the boys will be boys group...they would be shruboys...
so that would mean pillage and rape are fair game in war-time...all that stress yaknow...
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:18 PM
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21. these are the same type of characters caught in sexual abuse scam
in Iraq...anything is fair in wartime and they are going to have to live the fallout...
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:08 PM
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11. I watched close for about one minute
slam slam slam democrat democrat democrat. I haven't seen such forthright attacks on FAUX. I was fuming and need not have a heart attack.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:15 PM
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16. Sounds like hate speech. They should lose their license over this.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:07 PM
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10. Watching too.
I just noticed that they called out by name someone in the FCC that thought this was inappropriate, yet only said the CHAIRMAN of the FCC agreed with Sinclair - and failed to identify him as Powell's son.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:11 PM
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12. It's full of lies and distortions
Now they are showing people saying Kerry's testimony was a lie. I have a feeling that this will backfire. Millions of veterans know that Kerry's testimony was true.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:12 PM
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13. Sinclair are a bunch of fucking LIARS ! ....
Boycotts are FREE SPEECH ....

Criticism is FREE SPEECH ...

THEY can go to hell: ... they havent the GUTS to show that movie now: and its 'our' fault ? ..

Sheeesh .... chickenshits ...
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:12 PM
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14. Yawn..very boring. Lasted less than 1 min.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:15 PM
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15. Now comparing Kerry to Benedict Arnold - this is outrageous
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:16 PM
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19. Talk about whiney cry babies
Sinclair knows their ass is on the block over this, and they don't like it. They whine too much and people are going to turn it off.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:16 PM
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17. I screamed at the TV a few minutes ago. nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:17 PM
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20. Don't get upset - the Rethugs are exposing themselves
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 07:17 PM by yardwork
Listen carefully and take notes. Pretend you are on a jury.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:24 PM
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27. Yes, please, do this ^
They are not showing this where I am - we all need to know what was said. Thanks!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:16 PM
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18. Their Kerry supporters are via satellite feed and SBG keeps
turning down the sound on his comments.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:19 PM
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22. One of the Kerry supporters is in a wheelchair but they try not to show it
and SBG just cut him off! They jumpcut the interview! This is outrageous.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:21 PM
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23. That is the argument most easy to tear apart...
They are trying to deny democrats their freedom of speech by insisting that we didnt have the right to tell advertiserswhat we thought.

No one stopped Sinclair from excersing their freedom of speech. We told advertisers our point of view. Sinclair could have continued to show stolen honor if they wished to. If their principles were not more important than their profits.

Proble, for them is that they are showing this in markets where they hoped to take some of the more conservative democrats away from Kerry. I live in a highly republican area, and it is not being shown here. But they are showing it in Tallahasseem which has a closer Democrat Republican split. I doubt they are going to appeal to democrats by attacking democrats, Or to independents by attacking other voters. This may actually work in Kerry's favor

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Larry Tyler Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:22 PM
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24. Sinclair may not be showing it but,,,,
I just watched it in its complete form on the internet.
The damage will still be done.
I choose not to post the link to the showing due to those that might take it from here and post it in other forums.

Let me just say this.
I found it to be very biased, It took many things out of context and made them look like they were something other than what they were.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:26 PM
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29. Go ahead and post it. Let's debunk it right away.
Post it.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:29 PM
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34. Get help (Not posting an url because it might get out to other forums
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 07:30 PM by troublemaker
is beyond lame. But hey, have your fun here at DU.
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Larry Tyler Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:06 PM
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67. I gave the link to Skinner
He/she can make that decision.
Showing respect to someone elses board is not lame.
Im sorry you feel the way you do.
My only concern for this election is that Kerry wins. Give him at least 4 years to show what he can do. We know what the * cant do.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:22 PM
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25. The first commercial break
Watching FOX 56, Lexington.

A bunch of Fox commercials for other shows and the air times. It was laughable. Only two real commercials:
Consumerfreedom.com
Headcount.org
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:24 PM
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26. Now they are quoting Colson's four month lie.
I'll sue SBG myself! I am so mad.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:26 PM
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30. Does Sinclair only have Fox stations?
I guess I'm not clear on what Sinclair owns.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:30 PM
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35. No, they have others... ABC definitely
If you recall the Nightline flap when Sinclair refused to show "The Fallen", the reading of the troops names killed in Iraq.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:32 PM
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40. Here in Tallahassee it is NBC
Until I moved here, I had never seen an NBC station without local news. But this station doesn't. I learned this week that Sinclair prefers to have its own "news" instead.
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gavodotcom Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:25 PM
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28. The "host" needs to stop wearing his dad's suit, just a little too big.
It's such a blatant hackjob, on such a low budget, that it's actaully pretty hilarious, if not sad at the same time.

My girlfriend and I are rolling. The Sinclair whining about freedom of speech is the best part of this.

Kerry and his guys look awesome, I love how this 'looks' live, but they keep editing out the whole answers to their questions.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:27 PM
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31. How about the host's hair? I usually don't make fun of appearances
but that is the fakest toupee I have ever seen.
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gavodotcom Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:28 PM
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33. I think it's a wolf fur hat.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:31 PM
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38. LOL! Get his name
We need to search for pix of this guy - I need to see that hairhat!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:34 PM
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41. I missed his name - I'll try to get it and link a picture
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:35 PM
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42. His name is Jeff Barnd - unusual spelling
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:36 PM
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43. Now Carlton Sherwood is shown in big living color
The pro-Kerry people were shown via satellite - tiny pictures of them, washed out, sound fading out. Now we get Sherwood in close-up, high definition, loud sound. This has got to be illegal.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:27 PM
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32. Showing a Going Upriver clip. nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:31 PM
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36. Now they're interviewing Butler - maker of Up the River
He sounds a little odd - I'm sure they chose the weakest sections of his interview.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:32 PM
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39. They keep talking about Kerry's refusal to appear on the show
I don't think anyone will be fooled by that - this show is so obviously biased, anybody would understand his not appearing on this travesty.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:31 PM
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37. Anybody taping this?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:39 PM
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48. I'm not, sorry. Maybe a TiVO-owning DU'er can catch it. nt
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:42 PM
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52. Waste of tape.....................
This thing is boring and uninformative.

Actually, it is obvious that this is meant to be biased against Kerry, but I think the $$$ loss forced them to appear to be balanced. They even expose Bush as awol.

But overall, it is so boring that I doubt anyone will watch it, much less be influenced by it. This showing only allows them to save face by not pulling out altogether.

Congatulations, the campaign to the advertisers seemed to have been successful.

NO SPONSORS WHATSOEVER!!!!!

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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:36 PM
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44. Second commercial break
FOX 56, Lexington

HILARIOUS! I've never seen so many TV show plugs in my LIFE. ALL FOX commercials (Simpsons, Everybody Loves Raymond, etc). Only ONE actual commercial this time:

Saluteheros.org, had a NASCAR spokesperson (Joe Nemechek).
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:37 PM
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45. Got a vets for Kerry call. I am sure the timing is to match this show.
Had been on the swift boat WITH Kerry. Didn't need to call me anyways.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:38 PM
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46. Now we're getting a lame "analysis" of chimpy's service
It makes it sound like we're all being so mean to poor little georgie.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:38 PM
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47. Sinclair blacked out "Nightline." How dare they invoke "freedom of speech"
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:41 PM
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50. Now they're quoting somebody called Lively who is telling lies
SBG implies that georgie served 6 years in TANG, served more flight hours than anyone else, and returned to Texas after being in Alabama. A whole bunch of lies strung together making it look like the whole controversy is nothing. This whole thing stinks of Rove. The WH had to have put this whole program together. SBG didn't do this by themselves.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:42 PM
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51. HUGE LIE
Said that Bush had a 3 month period not reporting for duty, which "some say" he would be "temporarily AWOL". LIE. After 1 month, you are a DESERTER.

This is actually pretty humorous.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:43 PM
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54. dupe, sorry. nt
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 07:44 PM by nonconformist
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:44 PM
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55. Third commercial break
FOX 56, Lexington

Same as the first, only two real commercials:

Consumerfreedom.com
Headcount.org

This is so fucking funny.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:45 PM
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56. Barf. Now they're talking about all the news we're bing "force fed"
Complaining about "finger-pointing" books. They just showed sections from Jib Jab making fun of Kerry - none of the parts making fun of chimp!

This is extremely biased.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:45 PM
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57. here we go....CBS
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:13 PM
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69. I think "Memogate" is the biggest fraud of this campaign
it virtually killed the TANG story
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:46 PM
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58. "a blogger in southwest Iowa!!"
HOw about an attorney in Atlanta who was fed information by Rove
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:47 PM
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59. Question for Poly-Sci/Lawyer types: Is what Sinclair doing tonight LEGAL
Enquiring minds like mine want to know!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:51 PM
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62. Me too post - is this legal?
This is blatantly one-sided.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:47 PM
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60. Benjamin Ginsberg
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:49 PM
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61. Back to the free speech whining
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:51 PM
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63. This guy from CAto Institute is LYING LYING LYING
Nobody censored this!!!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:58 PM
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64. Fourth and final commercial break
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 08:05 PM by nonconformist
FOX 56, Lexington

NOTHING!!! Just FOX show promos!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:59 PM
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65. Wrapping up - this was very disjointed
Interviewing some freeper who thinks it's treason to protest during a war and anyway we should just forget Vietnam because it's in the past.

This has been an awful, sickening show. They are showing pictures of the Wall and pretending to be "sensitive" when all this is is a long attack ad on behalf of Bush. This is sick.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:01 PM
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66. Ended with yet another whiny plug for SBG
They asked viewers to write www.fcc.gov to express approval for this show having been aired.

Write to www.fcc.gov and tell them what you thought of this.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:13 PM
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68. The other day there was a guy on Unfiltered on AAR
Sorry I can't remember his name, but he's one of the movers and shakers in all the actions against Sinclair. He said that what had been done so far was only the beginning, and that they were going to be watching this broadcast closely and take further action against Sinclair if the broadcast was biased and full of lies (which everyone knew it would be.) They're going to go for Sinclair's license, among other things.
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