Apparently, I make more than a doctor!

[GirlinContempt]

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2004/11/05/700995.html

That is the article as it appeared in the London Free Press. In my hometown, the Winnipeg Free Press printed the FULL article, which I haven't been able to find on-line, so I'll give you the last couple of paragraphs.


"I'm not alone" said Chris Walsh, a native of New Hampshire married to a Canadian.

"The first thing people said to me when I went to walk my dog in the park this morning was: 'We're moving to Canada'. People are very disillusioned, and Canada is looking pretty good right now"

A gleeful Republican posted this response to suggestions of a liberal exodus: "Enjoy the Molson's while you wait an eternity for an imported doctor making the equivalent of minimum wage"
"they can pay high taxes for non-existent health care, non-existent military, and non-existent jobs. So go already... be the first in line" another said.

Prime Minister Paul Martin tossed his arms wide open yesterday to aspiring immigrants from the U.S. But he joked they shouldn't expect preferential treatment just because they're neighbours.
"The fact is we are a country of immigrants and we're prepared to receive immigrants from anywhere. (But) I doubt very much if refugee status is the way that I would characterize it," he said.

The number of U.S. immigrants to Canada has slowly dwindled to about 5,000 per year from a high of around 23,000 annually during the Vietnam war.


So, I make more than a doctor do I? Poor guys, no wonder our homeless shelters are so full. :eyes: Wait, I don't have a job. Our jobs, which have increased almost exponentially in the past few years are a myth. And I guess I didn't go to the Dr. last week, as surely eternity hasn't come to pass.

[kikiek]

At least they could wait for a doctor. Here many don't even get to go.

Ultimately that costs us more.

[GirlinContempt]

3. The Doctor wait...

at least in my area, is a myth. Sure, you have to wait for non-essential surgery, or possibly for things like a physical, depending on the time of year and who your Dr is. But, if I go into Emergency with a serious problem, or I call my Dr with something very wrong, it's quick and they're GOOD.

[kikiek]

10. I believe that. They want to scare people here (as you have seen)

and that will keep them from thinking socialized medicine is a good thing.Scare them into thinking they will die waiting for medical help. This country has hundreds of right wing radio people that get paid to lie to gullible people daily for hours. You wouldn't believe the call I got last night asking me about late term abortions. Basically they heard that the liberals encourage people to have them late term so they can harvest the stem cells. Killing two "moral issues" with one stone. Hah is that crazy or what? People believe it though! Real life! Not a horror movie!

[GirlinContempt]

11. I agree, its a scare tactic

If people would just stop and think, logically, there is NO way so many first world nations have adopted a health care system that discourages doctors and kills patients (not to mention the economy).

[Cleita]

13. This disinformation has been going on ever since

Hillary sat down to write up a health plan for Americans. The insurance companies and HMO's have spread the propaganda far and wide, which is why ten years later fewer and fewer people have access to health care, but the insurance companies can still post rosy profits on Wall Street.

A pox on them all.

[GirlinContempt]

17. I....

Just don't get it... then again, I grew up with this, I know nothing else.
Maybe we should start having guided tours of the Canadian healthcare system

[Cleita]

18. Not a bad idea.

If only we could get our corporate news outlets to report on it. But they don't criticize the Emperor of the Universe at all do they? The first time I knew anything about the Canadian system, was in a Dear Abbey column maybe twenty or thirty years ago. She was all for it. But our corporate run government makes it really hard to get good information unless you really dig for it like in places like DU.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

1. Non existent military?

Canada doesn't need a military on the same scale as the U.S. because:

1) They haven't assigned themselves to be the world police, like the U.S.
2) They don't go off attacking countries that haven't attacked them, like the U.S.
3) They don't prop up dictators in mideast countries, like the U.S.

[GirlinContempt]

4. True true... though we DO have a military... or DO we?

I guess we were just having hallucinations of soldiers sent off to Afghanistan.
We have to stop having these hippy-commie-gay-love-in-drug-fests.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

7. I should rephrase

When I said, "doesn't need a military like the U.S." I meant, "of the same scale as the U.S.". I wasn't implying that Canada didn't have a military. :)

[GirlinContempt]

9. Oh

I was refering to the person in the article who said we have no military :)

[Ernesto]

6. Canada probably has a "real" Dept of Defense

Not a Dept. of Offense like the US

[annabanana]

14. 4) They don't diddle around against South American democracies

[Hamlette]

2. American's pay the most for health care of any nation on earth

yet 33 countries are rated as receiving better health care than Americans.

Useful stat to have around when they say Canadians don't get good care.

[GirlinContempt]

5. Indeed.

Thanks

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

8. I have to laugh when I hear about the great healthcare system in the U.S.

Anyone who has spent a lot of time in the hospital (or had a relative or friend who did so) will tell you, it is a huge mess. The whole payment system is F'd up. Poor people without insurance pay many times what huge insurance companies pay for the exact same service - is that fair? I have insurance, and due to their crappy handling of bill payments, I am now in collections with several billers for fees that should have been paid by insurance.

I'll take Canada's healthcare system any day (or Viet Nam's, or Mozambique's, or Antiarctica's...)

[GirlinContempt]

12. Cuba has a really good system.

[eleny]

15. I recently had my gall bladder removed

The surgeon was paid just over $350 and the surgeon who assisted him got a bit over $100. Hard to believe that people who cut into me were paid chump change. And I don't belong to an HMO.

[HappinessPie]

16. This myth about socialized health care drives me NUTS! Our HMO system...

is ridiculous! Long waits, especially for specialist. Try to find a mental health physician on my plan: they list doctors who have dropped from it LONG ago because the ins. co doesn't pay them enough.

It's a joke, and I actually have what's considered relatively GOOD insurance. I pay a lot for my husband to be on it, too.

Most Americans don't even have that; we need to debunk this myth about socialized medicine.