"Look at all that red!"

[NYC Liberal]

I found a great map today to counter all those Freepfucks who look at the final electoral map and go "Look at all that red!"

Check it out!

"Using final vote percentages from electoral-vote.com, I made a map showing the percentage of “red” voters in each state along with the percentage of “blue” voters. The color on top of each state shows the party that won that state’s electoral votes. (Note: this is not perfectly scientific, as my approximations were made by eye, but I tried to be as accurate as possible for the purpose of this exercise.)"

Edit: Sorry if it wasn't clear....I actually didn't do this! The guy who runs the linked site did.

[Iris]

1. Good job! n/t

[pinkpops]

5. yes very good graphic!

[jpgray]

2. Manhattan should be solid blue

;-)

[NYC Liberal]

6. LOL...

I think we're too tiny to be seen there.

You know what they say...it's an island off the coast of Europe! :)

[BurtWorm]

60. First thing I noticed, too!

:hi:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

3. I love it! (nt)

[zoeb]

4. Nice work...

but I'm sure BushCo, using the Patriot Act, know where you live now.
Best to put your crayons in the garbage disposal before they come a knockin'.

[Mr_Spock]

7. Nice - but I'm feeling a bit dizzy now...

clunk!

[Paradise]

33. lol :) clunk! nt

[Kimber Scott]

8. I think you should write an article to go with this and get it published!

It's absolutely perfect!

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

13. there is an article to go with this

or at least a blog entry (the OP got it from another site).

http://www.pascal.com/diary/archives/000232.php

[Zinfandel]

9. You got my nothern CA correct!!!

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

12. What the heck is wrong with

Southern California?

Or is that all military influence?

Oops - on edit - he just split the states according to percentage...my bad...

[Lisa]

10. gee, it sure shows how Bush has divided the country!

Nice job!

[cjbuchanan]

11. very nice map

this is the best one I have seen so far.

[UpsideDownFlag]

14. my poli sci prof calls america "the 50/50 nation" nt

[UpsideDownFlag]

15. i like this graphic better...the blue states outweight the red ones.

[Skinner]

16. This is a very interesting way to look at the results.

Since the states all have odd shapes, I doubt the "volume" of red and blue are precisely correct. Still, it is very comforting to see large areas of blue in every state in the union. There are large numbers of blue voters in the red states, and large numbers of red voters in the blue states. Apparently we aren't so divided after all.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

51. The Math Nazi says it's "area", not "volume".

Sorry, don't ban me. :spank:

[JNelson6563]

17. Michigan is backwards

It is the lower half of the mitten that went blue, I'm sorry to say.

Julie--in the upper half

[HughBeaumont]

22. The tree branch the mitten is reaching for is part of Michigan.

They got it right.

[TahitiNut]

37. The majority 'color' is at the top of each state.

:shrug:

[Lizzie Borden]

70. Wi. is reversed.

It's the southern half that's very liberal, and NOT the northern. But I do like your idea.

[ComerPerro]

18. Another good way to look at things

[rpannier]

19. Most excellent

I love it.

[Groucho Marxist]

20. Nice.

I kind of like that one. It emphasizes that while the electoral college may be "winner take all", in truth the people's total vote was withing a single percentage point of being even.

Any politician who gives half a damn about the people he's representing will keep in mind that fully HALF the people may not be on his side,
and they can not be marginalized, disrespected, or ignored.

Groucho

[mark11727]

35. But, but...Dimson has a MANDATE, dammit...!

All the damn quacking heads on the teevee say so.... :o(

Just thought of the raving pinhead in the next aisle here at the cubefarm, who bellowed "landslide, baby!" on Nov 3rd....

We all looked at him and said "On what f*cking PLANET?"

[moondust]

21. Proportional electoral vote

would produce such a result. Winner-take-all borders on tyranny IMO.

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[ET Awful]

24. I like that even better than the "purple states" map

It is much easier to read.

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[Vickers]

26. They don't do electoral votes by county

Nice talking points, too.

:eyes:

[immoderate]

27. What are you saying?

Everybody in these slum counties expects something for nothing from their vote!

Maybe they expect better government. Maybe you're in the wrong place to spout bigoted trash.

--IMM

[ET Awful]

32. Maybe the red states as a whole would choke and die if all

the blue states withheld all federal taxes for a spell. I mean, since all those red states get more money from federal taxes than they pay.

[DuaneBidoux]

28. Sure doesn't look like a "Mandate" to me.

[benito]

29. I forwarded this to

Smudge and Hannity himself.

[CBGLuthier]

30. Thank You Thank You Thank You nt

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

31. Ohio's "red" in the wrong half

The Northern half of Ohio (Cuyahoga County) - that's the Blue section of Ohio - we're the working half - it's the southern half of Ohio that is the nutcake red section.

[TahitiNut]

39. The majority 'color' is topmost. It has nothing to do with 'where'.

[Kukesa]

41. Hey! Montgomery Co. (Dayton) was BLUE !!! n/t

[shuffnew]

43. State Win Color in Top 1/2 of each state, colors not by county

The map isn't done by county. It just shows proportionately in each state the number of total votes (blue & red) and puts the majority on top (red or blue). But, it shows the closeness (even with all the likely Election Fraud on the numbers) is in most every state "split" and almost evenly divided.

So, it does not reflect the per county ratio at all, just total state and puts the color ratio on the top of the color that supposedly won the total vote in each state.

Great map to show the division in our country being so evenly divided.

[Ripley]

34. These cartograms are more accurate:

Found at Salon.

snip>>

... The blue may be small in area, but they are large in terms of numbers of people, which is what matters in an election.

We can correct for this by making use of a cartogram, a map in which the sizes of states have been rescaled according to their population. That is, states are drawn with a size proportional not to their sheer topographic acreage -- which has little to do with politics -- but to the number of their inhabitants, states with more people appearing larger than states with fewer, regardless of their actual area on the ground. Thus, on such a map, the state of Rhode Island, with its 1.1 million inhabitants, would appear about twice the size of Wyoming, which has half a million, even though Wyoming has 60 times the acreage of Rhode Island.



Should look like:



Another groovy cartogram:

[derzocrat]

36. Whoa.....

Anyone else feel grovy when they look at that last map...?

:hippie:

[MadcityRock]

42. Yeah, I like the groovy (grovy?) swirly map

It looks like a too-well vascularized malignant tumor.

[slackmaster]

40. Pardon me for saying it but that last one is

Butt-ugly.

[Book Lover]

75. The groovy one is my desktop pic

I am working on a book now that has two maps of the US on its endsheets: one a regular flat projection, and the other is distorted something like the groovy one that shows each state weighted by its electoral votes. I'm working on convincing the editor to switch that out for this one, which is weighted by population.

[slackmaster]

38. I like the 3-D county-by-county version someone posted yesterday

It very graphically shows the relationship between party affiliation and population density.

[hatrack]

44. My favorite response - "Look at all those fence posts!"

Look at all those cows! Look at all those tumbleweeds! Look at all those pastures!

If cows and tumbleweeds and fence posts and pastures voted, then that would be a truly impressive map. They don't, and it isn't.

[scarface2004]

45. i think yahoo had each state by county

or was it cnn. whoever it was that graphic showed something similar..its us against 'white trash' and 'trailer trash' amerika! right now the 'trash' have it.

[hollywood926]

46. think we can get hannity to hold this one up? n/t

[Cat Atomic]

47. Better dead than red.

[leftofthedial]

48. cold civil war

without identifiable borders

it's not geography

[motherfather]

49. King of reminds me of Freddy Krueger's sweater.

Maybe that explains why I am afraid to sleep in Texas.

[Ohioneedswork]

50. I see T-Shirts !

Nice job ; thanks for the post. I had given my 2 pieces of red clothing away; I see t-shirts with this map - great graphic. Great post. thanks for making me smile!

[realisticphish]

79. only 2 pieces of red clothing

and you're from ohio? what kind of buckeye are you :mad:


:)


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[LiberalPersona]

52. We need more of these maps

to be circulated.
I'm getting sick of freepers and republicans screaming shit like "The democrat party is dying!" Jesus, you'd think millions of people just magically dropped off the planet by listening to them.

[n2dfun]

53. thanks from NH

I appreciate seeing these maps. I like maps anyway. As a BLUE person from a PURPLE state (they're all purple) I extend my unwavering support to all the blues throughout the US. Our fellow BLUES in outnumbered areas need our support more than ever.

[Gregorian]

54. You like that? Check this out...

[MaineYooper]

55. another take on the red/blue

Very nice images. Here's my own take on it: the m-word has been annoying me endlessly, so I played with illustrator to try to show the numbers people wise.



on edit:
(bah- a newbie question: how do you make the image appear in the message itself? Help!)

[klook]

71. Embedding images

Looks like you did the image code correctly (just enter the URL of the image). For some reason your source web site is blocking display of the image.

[MaineYooper]

76. thanks!

can't edit that one anymore, so I'll try again, with another site:

[Hubert Flottz]

56. Where's the big yellow hammer and sickle...

In the top one?

[AgadorSparticus]

57. it would be interesting to see blue v. red by population density too.

[Merlot]

58. Perception -vs- Reality n/t

[ArkDem]

59. Shouldn't the northern parts of the states be blue instead of

the southern?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

61. The simple response to all that "big red map" crap is that dirt doesn't

vote, except through the miracle of electronics.

[holboz]

62. This doesn't make the US look so scary

Thank you for putting things into perspective! It certainly demonstrates that the so-called decisive victory wasn't the shut-out that much of the MSM and conservatives claim it to be.

And I share your frustration of "blue state person stuck in a red state". I live in Bentonville, Arkansas. Maybe that's all I need to say! But it's this little corner of the state that's truly propelling the repuke element in our state. In fact, on the eve of the 2000 election Bush held his final campaign rally in Bentonville.

All of the Bush/Cheney bumper stickers and signs were very hard to digest during the campaign season and it only got worse when we kept getting recorded phone messages from the Republican campaigns that started off with, "Hi! Do you support gay marriage? Great! Then be sure to vote for John Kerry on November 2nd..." I didn't listen to anymore after that because it made me want to vomit. What's truly disgusting is that there are loads of people out there who actually believe this swill because they're too lazy to research the candidates on their own.

Our Kerry/Edwards sign was only 1 of 3 in our whole neighborhood - I felt lucky I only had to replace it once during the whole time we had it out (we kept it closer to our front door after we noticed people had been letting their pets do their business around it). I love the moral values displayed by our righteous conservative neighbors!!

My husband is English and he is beyond baffled about how this election turned out. So are all of our English friends. My husband is truly frightened and he's already looking for a new job back in England so we can move back. (We were planning to move back in 5 years anyway but we decided if we can do it earlier then we will.)

I'm new to the DU - I was looking for someplace to confide in after the election. I've been reading the posts and finally got around to creating a user ID. Great forums and great work.

[klook]

67. Greetings from another Blue prisoner

I'm in one of the few "Blue" areas in the Red(neck) state of Georgia, so I can empathize. It's possibly worse for you there in Arkansas, though. I can certainly understand your and your husband's desire to move back to the U.K.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[BlueMinded]

63. Have u seen the 3D map.....

it is a very accurate depiciton of where the votes came from for each candidate.

It really tells the truth about how this country is politically configured.

[proud patriot]

64. Oh I like this map .

:D

[Goathead]

65. Hey you put me in a red county!!!

My county went blue. Along with the rest of my state.:-)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

66. See that big chunk of blue on the bottom of Texas?

I'm in there, my husband's in there, my best friend, her parents, my other best friend and her husband, etc etc etc.

[klook]

68. This is great. One enhancement

I'd like to see is to add a white band to each state to indicate the percentage of non-voters and third-party voters (since in our winner-take-all system they're one and the same). Then you'd have a truly red, white, and blue map, and one that show even better the non-mandate status of the Republican oligarchy.

[sr_pacifica]

69. This representation is heartening. Thank you for the post. n/t

[pilgrimm]

72. I like this one

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

[mr_binklesworth]

73. This is a very important piece of data...

Though it's not scientifically accurate, it's very important to us to see things in this perspective.
This is heartening because it shows that our numbers are large and that we can still be stakeholders in the future of this country.

Many of my relatives have considered moving to Canada - I was shocked to hear that. Cripes, the thought crossed my mind, too. I felt that, with all three branches of power in DC in favor of the repugs, I have no representation in this land, anymore. This maps is certainly encouraging.

I fear that with the momentum the Christian coalition seems to think they have, this country is going to be less secular than pre-invasion Iraq.

Cheers,
MF

[Demoiselle]

74. THANK YOU !

What a terrific graphic....Much more "real" than the All That Red nonsense.

[killbotfactory]

77. Acres don't get to vote.

But I know most freepers are bad at geography, math, social skills, reason, logic, etc... so that kind of explains it.

[ailsagirl]

78. Another map that goes against the right's lies

Newsweek is one of the culprits who is propagating the misconception (LIE) that the population is mostly red-- no way!!

Go here to see a map put together by a Princeton professor(all that info is on the website)-- there are other maps on the page as well (including one he did for the 2000 election). They tell quite a different story-- I don't see any "sea of red."

You can zoom in and out on this map-- it's pretty cool.

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

[Osiricity]

82. cool map but

crap, I live in a purple area surrounded by red!

[BlueInRed]

80. Thanks for this -- it shows what many of us in red states knew

I am so weary of trying to explain that just because the conservatives outnumber us, not everyone in the south and midwest is a Republican. This map changes how you look at everything and should be considered the mainstay map. It is crystal clear there are substantial numbers of Democrats in a lot of the so-called "red" states. It also shows that many of these states can be swung by picking off just a small part of their coalition.

THANKS!!!!!!!

[seaj11]

81. Whadda ya know, I'm in the blue! n/t

[mooseboy]

83. A List of U.S. Cities...

For those who'd like an actual list of Cities that voted Kerry vs. Bush, I invite you to check out this link I created:

http://home.netcom.com/~pwoodson/Kerry_US_Cities.htm

The red state cities have our back. City- and urban-dwellers all across the USA voted for Kerry. Most of us live in Metropolitan Areas; this confirms that the national divide really is cultural and could easily boil down to urban vs. rural.

Look at all that BLUE!

[cbecke]

84. A look at the states

I've put together some quick maps of the gains/losses in the state legislatures, which can be found here:

http://www.pbase.com/cbecke/image/36221305
http://www.pbase.com/cbecke/image/36221306

Interesting that Dems made gains in traditionally "red" states such as Montana and Colorado, where they actually took control of both houses, and others such as Arizona, Nevada and Utah. Some good news on the local level for Dems!