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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:08 AM
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Anyone think Bush getting reelected might be the best thing
that could have happened?

We all know he and his people are doing a hideously inept job. The Republicans like him, but the Republicans I know also are smart enough to see that once again, we have documentation that Bush is apathetic about World events while running his costly war preceding "elections" in Iraq. It's very possible he will be twisting like a pinned insect in the next year in the eyes of other nations and America. If we can manage not to blow ourselves or anyone else up and genocide the entire planet, all the better. There are times when our brother and sister nations have wiser courses of action. Can I get a shout out for Canada? Also the Ukraine...orange in the house! Caesar left ruins, but Rome is still alive.

This war is not the war the American people want. Obviously the Iraqi people are capable of holding off the strongest army in the world or else we'd be out of there by now. They need to take their oilfields back and figure out the best way they could use them. If we had left Iraq sovereign, think how they could have helped with tsunami relief with the profits from their natural resources.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:10 AM
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1. I don't.
Supreme Court justices can screw up things for decades. What if he gets a few appointments?
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:16 AM
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2. We gotta get our Dem reps and sens to not shut up.
They will do what they want, but they cannot stop Democrats from pointing out what is wrong.

They're in a headlock. If a Senator stands up and mentions that the Ukraine got a new election because of exit polls, what are they going to do? The media cannot resist a drama, we all know that.

A Senator could, arguably, end his career and go down in flames, but think of the book deal.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:21 AM
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4. I guess I find it difficult to think of 4 horrible years for our country..
as a good thing. People are dying and freedoms that will likely cost blood to regain are being lost constantly. We must try stopping him now.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:19 AM
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3. You clearly don't have a child serving in Iraq
The continued incompetence of this regime has real consequences for many people.

Not the best thing, no.
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muse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:24 AM
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5. I think about the global picture & my children's future. Answer: no
There is no way I can say that Bush getting reelected is a good thing for any human being on the planet.

Since we are apparently stuck with him, I do hope that his failure is so totally complete in the next 2-4 years that the democratic party cleans up in 06 and 08 and gets everything back on track.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:24 AM
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6. No freaking way!
As far as I'm concerned, we're screwed beyond belief for the next four years. He's fucked things up in four measly years. Imagine what he can do in four more.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:29 AM
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10. Well, I was thinking...
you know in action movies where the villain doesn't see the opportunity to jump off the burning bus before it careens off a cliff? He goes for the fifty-dollar bill tucked in the back seat belt instead of going for the brake pedal?

If he'd been voted out, he'd be working behind the scenes.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:28 AM
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7. Not by any stretch of the imagination
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:29 AM
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8. Not really

But second terms tend to go worse for the incumbent...the chickens come home to roost. And George Bush has Foghorn W. Leghorn coming home.

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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:29 AM
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9. It could be a good thing, but not in the way some people think..
Bush is more and more becoming a magnet for corruption, greed, power, hate, and aggression. This could be a good thing because now these negative "values" are grouped together in one place. This allows people like us to look past our differences and stand together against what Bush represents. It's not Bush as a living being that we hate, but rather the values he embodies. These values are now exposed and the battle against them is just beginning for us. People have fought against these values in the past and eventually won, only to have them pop up again years later. We must learn from history to fight negative values, no matter what form they take, or else we will continue to repeat this pattern.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:35 AM
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12. Not only do I hate his values, I hate him as a person.
Shrub is responsible for his atrocities.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:44 AM
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18. I agree, he is responsible
However, I remember reading how Karl Rove said he had the skills to get Bush elected. If it had not been Bush, it would have been some other shit-bag figurehead. The current group in power are all terrible, evil people. But oh yes, Bush definitely needs to be held responsible.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:50 AM
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21. i don't hate the shrub, because that implies an emotional attachment
which i do not have for the little weasel. I feel about him the same way I feel about Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer, I hold him in complete contempt, sans emotion.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:29 AM
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11. It might be a good thing for Dems in the 2008 elections
By then the country is going to be a total wreck. Which means......it's going to be bad for all of us poor working class people for decades. There is no Democrat on the horizon that can repair the mess we're about to to encounter. Even if there was some magical Democrat, the Neocons and religious freaks would fight them at every turn (along with the repub media). It's going to take something bigger than The Big Depression to wake this country up!
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:38 AM
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14. I don't think any of us are averse to a challenge.
Clinton cleaned up after Bush I. We can do it again, and we'll do it better this time.

Not that humanity will appreciate a continual state of tear-down and repair. Hopefully we'll move to a point we're we're not the cleanup crew for the New World Order.

If America wanted Bush, they got him. I can only entrust that humankind will suddenly blink away from the TV for a minute and go, "What the FUCK is he doing now??? I didn't vote for this!"
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:38 AM
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15. jayctravis.. well he does have to clean up his own mess..
Blaming Clinton, will no longer be an option, he's been there for 4 yrs already, and now for 4 more. Trouble is we are all going to suffer for his mistakes. So no, I dont think it's to anyone's benefit that we are stuck with him for another 4 years.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:49 AM
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20. Sigh, agreed.
Can we at least get the Naked Gun movie people to do a swiftboat action movie scene where a Democrat fights off secret service and dropkicks the president off into the river?

Oh wait, they probably want to control movies too.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:07 AM
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23. jayctravis.... ROFLMAO!!!
Good one!~ LOL!
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American Renaissance Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:37 AM
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13. The election wasn't worth winning.
I don't think Kerry should have run this election, he was too good a canidate to waste on an election that wasn't worth winning.

Bush would have left behind such a disaster that Kerry (or anyone else) would have ultimately been blamed for, and he would have faced a rabid Republican establishment that would have filed articles of impeachment before he even moved into the Whitehouse.

It would have been tragic for the Kerry presidency to have been tained by Iraq the same way Nixon was tained by Vietnam.

Sometimes it is best to give your enemy time to completely self-destruct. The last time the conservatives self-destructed they were in the wilderness for the better part of half a century.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:40 AM
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17. Bush now has four years of living in the Pottery Barn.
Any of you fine Texans care to poke down there make sure he comes in to work on Monday?

Or is this "Western White House" thing something they're doing with a straight face?
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Miami Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:40 AM
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16. No, there is nothing good at all about it. n/t
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:46 AM
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19. no, i am pretty sure it's the worst thing that could have happened
no matter what else goes down we can count on the Shrub to look out for the interests of Bush&Company firstly, lastly, singly and solely. If there is a buck to be made from any tragedy, Shrub&Company will be there. They will not give one moment's thought to anyone else, no matter what happens, and therefore ANYONE, including you, me, or my DOG could do a better job under ANY circumstances.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:05 AM
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22. You are correct...
As my friend says, "If you owned a business, would you hire this idiot to manage it? He couldn't manage a 7-11." (Nothing against 7-11 managers).

Seriously --there may have been a way for a Democrat President to salvage our country after four years of Shrubya. After eight years? There won't be anything worth saving.

He has political capital and he is going to spend it!!!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:08 AM
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24. It will be fun watching his policies implode....let's hope it doesn't....
let's hope it doesn't wreck the country permanently.
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ClearMessage Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:25 AM
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25. It's a very bad thing.
in 4 more years, we will be in debt of nearly $10 Trillion dollars, more divided, and hated around the world.

It'll take a long time to undo his damage.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:46 AM
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26. Yeah, absolutely - Ralph Nader thinks this
He's said so many times before the election, along with many of his loyal supporters.

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Mark H Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:51 AM
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27. No!
And I'll say it again.....NO!
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