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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:43 PM
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Who is this asshole on with Conason & Franken...
some fuckwit from Accuracy in Media
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:44 PM
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1. If they are from Accuracy in Media ...
they're definitely a fuckwit.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:44 PM
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2. Accuracy in media, my ass!
:thumbsdown:

But I like the way Franken and Conason is beating up on him.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:44 PM
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3. I love Conason though, I wish AAR would give him his own show. n/t
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:07 PM
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24. Agreed.
He's great. He was firing on all cylinders today. Go Joe!
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:45 PM
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4. He sounds like Zell Miller
His voice sparks forth an instantaneous Klan rally.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:46 PM
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5. It's Cliff Kincaid.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 02:51 PM by seafan
Al and Katherine are counting the minutes until they can sign off.

They are live at some kind of conservative forum/gathering, talking to some of the attendees.

On edit: It's the Conservative Political Action Conference.
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:47 PM
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9. cliff kincaid
i read his article defending Jeff Gannon. Its a rather large leap of logic.

Pretty laughable. Go check it out. His group is called Accuracy in Media, but if they're defending Gannon you have to wonder if that's a misnomer.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:46 PM
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6. Damnit! He has changed the subject to Barney Frank! They know
how to do this and our people need to learn to stop it and to do it back to them.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:48 PM
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11. Conason Did. Said That You Know You Have Won The Argument
when they change the subject.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:50 PM
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13. Also...
...when they start cussing you out & calling you names!
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:52 PM
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15. We need to write Dean and suggest he send Conason out to the
debate shows on CMC (corporate media cartel).
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:01 PM
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22. They turned it around but those RW jerks are experts at distortion.
What a scumbag.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:46 PM
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7. The other day I took a long look at some of the articles at AIM's site
and I just couldn't find much real content. It all seems to be based on interpretations and assumptions instead of fact-based like MediaMatters.org or FactCheck.org.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:47 PM
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8. What I want to know is...
What do they say to each other during the commercial break?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:47 PM
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10. Sounds like he has a balloon up his ass
A very nasal voice.

I like his emphasis on "staying out of people's personal lives".

Why didn't we hear that from the Right in 1998?

BTW, his name is Cliff Kincaid
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:50 PM
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12. GOD DAMN IT!!!!! THEY FELL FOR THE FRAME OF THE RIGHT!!!!
Nobody dug into Gannon's personal life. They dug into his PUBLIC LIFE!!!



WHY THE FUCK DOES THE LEFT ALWAYS FALL FOR THE FRAMING TRAPS OF THE RIGHT????? NEVER EVER EVER LET THE RIGHT DEFINE THE TERMS!!!! STRESS THIS WAS GANNON'S PUBLIC LIFE BECAUSE THE PHOTOS WERE ON THE PUBLIC INTERNETS!!!!

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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:53 PM
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17. Franken and Conason didn't fall for it - they called Kincaid on that
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:54 PM
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18. In Al's defense, he did say that the stuff was on the net, in the open,
but the RW asshat just kept on bleating.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:50 PM
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14. I loved how at the beginning of the discussion
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 02:52 PM by prodigal_green
Al asked him about Gannon's asking factually wrong questions (i.e., did Chimpy know that Kerry and Jane Fonda gave speeches together or something to that effect, the infamous "soup lines" question, etc.) and he responded that a journalist asked if the chimp thought war broke the 10 commandments. One is presenting factually incorrect information, the other is asking for the president's opinion. They kinda let him slide on that one too.

on edit: how can they compare Frank's hiring a prostitute for sexual favors, something that came out and he was reprimanded for and STILL re-elected, and the White House hiring a prostitute and disguising him as a reporter and possibly giving him a lot of access to classified information? Apples and oranges.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:52 PM
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16. This prick!
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:54 PM
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19. Love Joe Conason!!!
:loveya:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:55 PM
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20. He keeps changing the subject...`
what a loser! :eyes:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:57 PM
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21. putting words in peoples mouths...
I didn't say that... you started it blaa blaa blaa...

unfuckingbelievable!!!!
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:06 PM
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23. "Accuracy in Media"
From the same party that brought us the "Healthy Forests Initiative" and the "Clear Skies Initiative." At least they're consistent in their Orwellian naming conventions. :eyes:
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JFK Dem Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:11 PM
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25. I love Joe Conason, too
I read his New York Observer column every week. He's a fearless and tireless critic of the Bush administration. And a very interesting writer. His column on Jeff Gannon this week is excellent.
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