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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:08 PM
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Onward Christian Ingrates - Christian rock band sues school
It seems the professional religious victims have latched onto a local Christian rock band, appropriately named Pawn. They are now suing a public school that would not allow them to put on a concert.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050218/NEWS02/502180359
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:09 PM
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1. I thought "Christian rock band" was an oxymoron...
:shrug:
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:11 PM
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3. I've always believed that also.
Nevermind that "Christian rock" mostly sucks bilgewater.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:10 PM
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2. Persecution envy is near epidemic in right wing xstian circles.
You'd think we were watching them get eaten by lions from all the wailing from them.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:12 PM
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4. Is this their album?
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:29 PM
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13. I suspect...
...that Cartman's interpretation of Christian music is better than the band that just filed suit.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:40 PM
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15. .
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:15 PM
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5. The article got it right.... They can give a SECULAR performance
But songs about God are not secular... even if they don't mention GOd in between songs.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:15 PM
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6. they're not making christianity any better, they're just making rock worse
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:16 PM
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7. Don't know how the legal thing will work out --
-- but the news account makes me want to put on the Stones' "Honky Tonk Women" and play it very, very loud.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:21 PM
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11. good idea.
And demand that it be played at the next school assembly, too. Otherwise, the Stones' free-speech rights are being ignored.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:25 PM
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12. Yer durn tootin'.
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spunky Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:18 PM
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8. Oh for god's sake, their rights weren't infringed upon.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 04:19 PM by spunky
After discussing the matter with its attorneys, the school board backed Ms. Gernot's decision and offered to allow the band to play after school hours at an event sponsored by local businesses.

So, they could have played, they just wanted to get some publicity. Isn't that a Christian thing to do?


And unless they had signed something guaranteeing that no religious content, no god, no jesus, no bible, no nothing, would be included in their performance, then I'd say the school did the right thing. It was during school hours. There should not be any religion affiliated activities during school hours. Period.

And if they weren't planning on including any religious content in their performance, then they weren't discriminated against on religious grounds. They just weren't allowed to play, and last time I checked, schools get to decide who performs on campus during school hours.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:19 PM
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9. Let 'Em Play...
By raising an issue, now the wingnuts have another "cause" to champion...playing the "persecution" card again. If people ignored it and let this little band put on its show for its little coven of groupies they'd stay in oblivion and not become fodder for O'Reilly and Christian Media.

High school kids are sophisticated enough to know the real music from the fabricated stuff. This type of stuff puts pressure on lots of moderates and liberals on school boards who are derailed from important issues like funding schools and helping students grow and learn to religious wingnut sideshows that only end up with the "libruls" looking bad.

My issue is more with the parallel universe the fundies have created that indoctrinate children into an almost zombie-like (some will say abused) life that creates a lot of problems when they enter or have to encounter the "real world".
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:19 PM
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10. A band has a constitutional free-speech right to perform ...
at an event sponsored by a school?

Hmm, those events could get rather long, if they were forced to schedule every band that wanted to play.

Now, does every community member have a free-speech right to speak at every school assembly?
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sdfernando Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:38 PM
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14. Perhaps satan's minions should schedule a concert at this school???
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