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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:10 PM
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Will Faux News & Drudge lose credibility in eyes of moderate fundies?
My sister and her husband are not "true" fundies, but they did vote for the weed and they do believe in a lot of the fundie positions "school prayer" "fight terrorist over there" yada yada.

They are not extreme fundies, they are moderates. They love to watch Faux and CNN. If it a story was not reported on either Faux or CNN is isn't true.

So there is the question. Will they start doubting Faux because it won't cover the Gannon story? Will those who love Drudge begin to doubt his credibility because he hasn't mentioned Gannon?

Can we be so lucky as to have the Gannon story cause the WH and Faux and Drudge such grief? Will all of the nasty, evil ones finally be exposed for their partisan lies?

<<fingers crossed!>>
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:19 PM
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1. Naw
I'm afraid the kool=aid is addictive. It's going to take a lot more than the current level of the story. It's going to have to go up the food chain before they begin to pay attention. I hate to say it but I think to them it's just a sex scandal and if it doesn't include Bill Clinton, their eyes are going to glaze over. Honestly, I don't know what it will take to wake these folks up.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:25 PM
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3. Well, that's just it - because it is a sex scandal, they will pay more
attention to it and be disgusted by it. They can't stand O'lielly any more, not since his sexual harassment settlement. They figured that he was guilty of the charges since he paid the lady off and didn't fight it in court to save his name.

If you ask them, what is worse lies about the reasons for a war that has resulting in the killing of thousands or lies about a blow job in the white house, they will tell you its the blow job. How do they explain to their kids that a blow job is sex and not appropriate unless you are married?

So, if the sex scandal continues to brew and stay in the news (CNN), will they be appauled that the WH didn't maintain its decorum and keep the man toy out of the press briefings?

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:21 PM
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2. What's the deal with Drudge?
The Gannon story is made for Drudge. But he's not covering it.
Curious.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:26 PM
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4. Drudge is just another Gannon, he gets his "scoops" and marching
orders from the WH. They faxed him their talking points memo and Gannon wasn't on it so he won't cover it.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:43 PM
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5. Won't this hurt Drudge?
if he isn't covering this type of story? People are hungry for more on this story. Face it. People love any story with a sexual angle. Whether it's a missing young woman who had an affair with a Congressman or a philandering husband with a dead wife and a mistress. That's guaranteed ratings. Michael Jackson's travails get endless ink and airplay.
But the wingnut media is silent on Gannon.
So, they're going to lose viewers. They had to choose between ratings and pleasing the Bushies. Must be excrutiating for them.
By the way, what does Dennis Miller have to say on this? Seems like he wouldn't be able to resist making smarmy Gannon remarks. But, then again, Miller did fly around on Airforce One with Bush...so, maybe even his big mouth has been muzzled.
Remember, gays can't marry in Bushworld. But they can get high-level press access while working as male prostitutes.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:51 PM
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6. That's my point. If Drudge and Faux don't cover it, people will go
some place else to find more on the story. As much as folks say they are appaulled about all of the sex on t.v., in the movies, etc., the sex continues because sex sells.

This whole thing could harm not only the WH, but Faux and Drudge.

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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:33 AM
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7. It could hurt them,
and we can hope it will, but we shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't. If the pedophile priests didn't do the Catholic Church in there's no guarantee that this will do the fake journalists in.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:39 AM
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8. Pedophile priests have hurt the church.
dioceses are going bankrupt, parishes have been abandoned and churches closed, shortage of priests. It has hurt them, don't fool yourself.

That is why the American cardinals and bishops backed the weed, he promised them the 30 pieces of silver if they told their parishoners to vote for him. Tort reform and faith based initiatives coming to a diocese near you!
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:41 AM
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9. So they can continue to spread their love to all the children.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:31 AM
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10. you're absolutely correct
pedophile priests have done indelible harm to the Catholic church. The two are inseparable: pedophilia and the priesthood. It's not fair. But the constant reports of yet another priest who was shuttled out of view, but never prosecuted, after his crimes were known have left their lasting impression on the American psyche.
Bush played the Catholics, or, rather, Rove did. He promised them absolution. It won't happen. Most of what the Bushies have held in front of people, enticing them, won't happen. Because it's all really about the money. Never forget that: with these guys, it's always the money.
And the money isn't there for churches. Or evangelicals. These people were played. That money is going to the military industrial complex and the oil industry. Wherever there's a Bush buddy who needs another billion, there will be tax dollars.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:54 PM
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14. The religious tenets that the Catholic hierarchy tried to hide
behind when the pedophile stories began making the news "our religion teaches forgiveness, the priests repented and said they would sin no more, so we moved them. That was enough for us, we didn't have to punish them further.", is the same type of religious mumbo jumbo that Gannon and the fundies are trying to use as a shield.

Life is full of irony.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:04 PM
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11. kick
:kick:
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:21 PM
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12. I can only speak for the congregation that I recently...
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 12:21 PM by teamster633
separated from but they claimed that attendance had risen, however slightly over the last few years. And this was in the face of having one of their own priests removed due to accusations of abuse. I finally left for political reasons but there were plenty of good reasons to get out of there far sooner than I did.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:34 PM
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13. Church membership always increases during a time of war.
It is not the message of the church that has caused the increase in membership, but the "terra" lies of this admin.

Add to that those stupid books about the end of the world and folks have run to churches for their spiritual comfort.

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