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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:52 PM
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Will the truth prevail?
About Gannon, about the real reasons we invaded Iraq, about stealing elections, about 9/11, about FILL IN THE BLANK.

If so, when? During this administration, within our lifetimes, in the future in some historian's well-researched and startling expose that won't do us in the present much good?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:58 PM
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1. Hopefully during our lifetimes... or at least my inlaws so I get the
last laugh.

Remember, in 1930s Berlin, those who didn't fall in line with Hitler were considered "against Germany." HIstory, however, has looked kindly upon them.

We will be looked kindly upon.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:15 PM
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2. I think the truth will prevail for the majority of Americans before
the next four years are up. I am sure there are still elderly folks out there who think FDR was the devil incarnate, and there will probably always be a fringe group that will think * was God's agent on Earth no matter what happens.

There is a lot to worry about though. For example, let's say there is a dirty bomb attack on the downtown of a major city and the government says things are cleaned up and it is safe to go back there. Who is going to go after the World Trade Center lies? To quote * "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me, duh, uh, duh, gulp, ah duh..." I live in Florida and there has been a lot of privatizing going on, most of which has been disastrous-the problem is that once something is broken, the folks that knew what it looked like when it worked have gone on to other things. I fear that is what the post-Bush U.S.A is going to be, broken and no one who knows how to fix it again, plus the courts will be full of right wing cranks who will muck up the works for decades. This is not how I looked forward to spending my old age.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:20 PM
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3. Here is what I predict will happen....
WHAT are we always saying?
That the MSM is a bunch of whores shilling for a buck. Right?

Right now... BUSH + WAR + Christian "values" = ratings.

As soon as the floodgates open and it becomes apparent that...

Bush + Scandals + Gay Hooker + Illegal War = Ratings

Things will change in a hurry.

I can only hope.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 06:26 PM
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5. I don't think it is about ratings I think it is about access. BushCo is
brutal about cutting off access. When a news network doesn't have access it is hard to broadcast 24/7 so they have chosen to broadcast bullshit rather than be the 24 hour car accident, celebrities in court and obituary network.
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sacxtra Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 06:18 PM
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4. There is only one way
That is to restore the elections.
By restoring the right to vote.
By removing
electronics
digitized data
and insecure networks from our elections in the United States Of America


Each voter MUST fill out an election / fraud complaint form.

The complaint is:

You claim your vote didn't count at the very nano-second that it was converted from analog to digital, because at that point it traveled at 3e8 (speed of light) and there is no method known to man, or to the secretary of state, or to the poll worker. To see the vote, or audit it.


Further.

You claim the poll worker is commiting a felony for loosting your ballot.

Call the cops.



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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 06:42 PM
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6. Will RESPONSIBILITY prevail?
A lot of people accept the truth about the war...but convolute it to fit their psychosis.

Yes, Americans have become incredibly POOR CONSUMERS...and being hit with BS for generations are coming around to accept that BS is a way of life. Many of them know the truth, that their benefits are going to be cut, that the rich man is ripping them off....but they kind of accept this as a new way of life.

Americans have lost the concept of RESPONSIBILITY. The ultra rich in this country are not being responsible. It's just that simple. Sharing in the concept of making our country better for all is what responsibility is all about....not for a few scum bags.

FREEDOM....without RESPONSIBILITY....is simply a free for all.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:18 PM
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7. That is indeed the question.
It really isn't about whether we "win" or "lose" or "prevail". It's all about whether we're all, each one of us, willing to accept the moral responsibility for speaking out and taking action in the name of truth.

They can can discredit us. They can imprison us. They can kill us. But they can't stop us from standing up and speaking out for moral truth. Whether we win or end up marginalized, in jail or in a grave, we stood up for what's right according to what our conscience told us was true.

Who's with me?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:48 AM
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8. What concerns me is that in the past
people in power like Bush have gotten away with all kinds of atrocities and deception, and they were never brought to justice. Just look at the Reagan years. Most of those fascists are back in power even after all the sordid details about the Contras and selling weapons to Iran came out.

Personally, I think these people in power (and they always seem to be the same people since the '60s, '70s and '80s) learned a lot of lessons from Watergate. They learned to control and muzzle the press better. They learned how to distract the public when things get too hot. They learned how to market their nutty ideological agenda better. They learned to be more like G. Gordon Liddy and less like John Dean.

You can't tell me no one learned anything from Watergate. Unfortunately for most of us, it was the wrong people who learned the wrong lessons.

Frankly, I'm not all that convinced that truth will prevail in this country. If it ever does, I think too many people will just turn the channel to the preferred platitudes and comforting lies offered by the Right on FOX or the nice distractions offered by reality TV.

I hope I'm wrong. I really do.
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