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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:10 PM
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Say it ain't so: Nader teams up with the Wingnuts

Consumer Advocate Ralph Nader, Author Wesley Smith call Upon Florida Courts, Gov. Bush and Concerned Citizens to Take any Legal Action Available to let Schiavo Live

3/24/2005 6:48:00 PM

To: National Desk

Contact: Ralph Nader, 202-387-8034; Wesley Smith, 510-886-8609

WASHINGTON, March 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Consumer Advocate Ralph Nader and Wesley J. Smith, author of the award winning book "Culture of Death: The Assault on Medical Ethics in America" call upon the Florida Courts, Governor Jeb Bush and concerned citizens to take any legal action available to let Terri Schiavo live.

"A profound injustice is being inflicted on Terri Schiavo," Nader and Smith asserted today. "Worse, this slow death by dehydration is being imposed upon her under the color of law, in proceedings in which every benefit of the doubt-and there are many doubts in this case-has been given to her death, rather than her continued life."

Among the many injustices in this case, Nader and Smith point to the following:

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2005/03/nader-crosses-over-to-dark-side.html
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:12 PM
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1. Nader is a has been, I say so what?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:14 PM
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3. to each his/her own..................
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:13 PM
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2. huh?
What!

Since when did Nader suddenly become a crazee fundee?

Also, there are NO more legal options for the Sciavos or the Bushes.

Sue
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:14 PM
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4. Gosh. I'm so surprised.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:16 PM
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5. I in fact don't necessarily believe this
I guess I want to see confirmation
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:18 PM
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7. From where? Fox news?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:24 PM
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9. that's confirmation
he's lost his mind, even more than was evident in 2004.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:28 PM
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10. Here are his own words
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 02:28 PM by NNN0LHI
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0503/23/cf.01.html

<snip>NADER: I must say, I don't see a government interest in denying the parents their desire to take care of Terri. I don't see a government interest.

I think that shifting the guardianship from Michael to the mother and father of Terri is the way to resolve this. Nobody knows what Terri would say. She was alleged to have said something, hearsay, to the side of the family of her husband. She didn't talk about feeding tubes. She doesn't have a ventilator. She doesn't have a heart pump. I don't see the government interest.

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:30 PM
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12. you convinced me
and if anything could make me feel even worse for my vote in 2000, this was it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:38 PM
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15. He is a total whack job. Go home Ralph, and get some therapy n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:04 PM
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So Congress could determine someones guardianship?
Ralph, you're out of your fucking mind. Maybe Ralph needs to become a ward of the state. One Randall Terry is enough.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:20 PM
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8. sounds like nader's urguing bush to 'jump'
and scream 'goodbye cruel world' all the way to the pavement.....
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:16 PM
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6. Shocked. I am shocked I tell you n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:01 PM
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21. why so surprised??
he took money during the campaign from the repugs...alot of money..so why are you so surprised??

fly
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:28 PM
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11. nader is a loose canon on a matchstick ship...
and he lost the election for us in 2000 and is the reason * is in office. for that he deserves eternal damnation. he has turned himself into a buffoon.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:33 PM
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13. I'm amazed at a lawyer who would comment without the facts
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 02:34 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
1) There are no documented cases of people in PVS's coming out after 14 years.

2) No one has ever regrown a brain

3) Swallowing salive is minimal. Real nutrition would cause aspiration leading to pneumonia and probably amount to malpractice.

4) She had rehabilitation. The experts who claim therapy will help are not credible (nevermind that I mentioned credibility and Nader in the same paragraph).

5) Comparing it to the death penalty, most DP cases don't get 24 appeals

6) A brain that has dissolved is not a degenerative condition
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:47 PM
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20. Really? 'Cuz there've been plenty of doctors doing the same...
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:37 PM
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14. Gradually, the true Nader is showing himself
and its an ugly, ugly picture. I had so much respect for the man at one time, but he has totally disgraced himself in my eyes. He's a sham, a sell-out, and an embarrassment to progressives everywhere.

But you ain't heard it from me, 'cause I ain't one to gossip...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:44 PM
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16. same here, Rowdy
same here.

Like the scene in "Jackie Brown", when Samel Jackson shot Robert DeNiro:

"Man you used to be so cool. What the fuck happened to you?"
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:45 PM
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19. LOL
I LOVE that line! You used to be soooo cool....

Hope you're not getting too battered by the storms today. We had them yesterday and got off REAL lightly. At one point they were predicting baseball sized hail.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:45 PM
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17. Because of who he once was, I prefer to believe...
... that he has gone insane or developed some dementing illness, rather than sold out...
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:54 PM
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18. How did the greens get the idea Nader was their boy
Doesn't anybody remember the republican party was financing Naders run?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:04 PM
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24. Absolutely
Nader hates the Dems and will do anything to oppose them, even aligning himself with Repubs (whom he despises only slightly less). Nutjob much?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:02 PM
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22. Nader is batshit loony!
Damn, and to think that I came close to voting for that loon once! Glad I came to my senses!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:02 PM
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23. Nader is batshit loony!
Damn, and to think that I came close to voting for that loon once! Glad I came to my senses!
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