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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:17 AM
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Why do so many Americans love George W Bush ?
He may be hated around the world, but he is quite popular with a large group of Americans, perhaps the majority? Why is that? We know he lies and has the greatest propaganda system ever assembled on this earth, the corporate mainstream media. We also know he pretends very effectively to be a moral and righteous leader. That works with a lot of Americans.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:20 AM
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1. In no particular order
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 09:27 AM by BlueEyedSon
1. Religion
2. Nationalism
3. Poor public education
4. The media
5. Faulty polls (not as many love him as you think)
6. Selfishness/Greed

on edit:
7. Racism
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:44 AM
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19. Don't forget his carefully cultivated bumbling persona
"Golly gosh, he's just like ME"
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:20 AM
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2. Cause he's the type of guy you could have a beer with...
:puke:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:26 AM
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12. Or have over for Sunday brunch.
An exact quote from a local Bush supporter: "I voted for him 'cause he seems like the kinda guy I could have over for Sunday brunch."
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:27 AM
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13. But he can't drink! He's a great actor. Actor-in-Chief is what he is.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:20 AM
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3. His supporters have an amazing ability to tune out the world around them
if it doesn't fit with their worldview

Facts mean nothing to them;it's all about what they believe
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:21 AM
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4. Americans are misinformed and stupid
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:23 AM
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6. You forgot lazy.
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:25 AM
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10. Exactly. Stupid and uninformed. the GOP likes it that way.
Why else do you think they want to ban abortions?? Unwanted kids that will eventually grow up hating and stupid (due to GOP program cuts). potential Republican voters.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:22 AM
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5. He invites strong responses.
Those Americans who dislike him do so with strong feelings.

When the disasters he is making possible finally manifest his popularity will plunge. He is loosing ground daily.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:57 AM
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30. "I hate him and everyone connected to him"
Would that make me a communists :shrug:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:24 AM
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7. They hope that he is lying and screwing the other guy.
They know he is a lying shit, but they figure only a lying shit can get their favorite policies past a recalcitrant majority.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:24 AM
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8. Because they're stupid and ignorant.
I'm not kidding.

How could people NOT see that he was a moron? They did see it, and they voted for him anyway.

Bush was popular - very popular - even BEFORE most of the propaganda machine was in place.

They also bought in to the "restore the integrity of the White House" bullshit, even though all indications were that Bush was a lying weasel who'd never obtained anything legitimately in his life.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:24 AM
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9. Why did so many Italians love Benito Mussolini?
Why did so many Spaniards love Francisco Franco?

:shrug:
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:46 AM
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20. cuz they are fasciscimos...
pols keep promisin heaven on earth..ALWAYS ends up Hell for the commoners..

Americans that support bush are supporting exactly the Mussoilni definition of fascism which is the merger of govt and corporat powers..

privleged been rulin like this since Christ was a PFC..

sos

VN opened my eyes to govt lies..
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:25 AM
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11. He connects with their inner bigot.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:51 AM
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28. Ding, ding, ding, "You won the prize" n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:27 AM
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14. Nobody I know even likes him - Republicans included
It must be the same sort of personality that falls for the Fundie lie as well - we don't have many of them up here.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:43 AM
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18. All of his 59 million votes were not stolen...
so somebody likes him??
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:33 AM
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26. Oh, the fuck-nut cowards voted for him - then immediately denied it
They are of two minds on this cock-sucker - they voted for him then almost immediately claimed they either didn't vote for him or regret their vote. These are some seriously hypocritical bastards we are dealing with here...
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:29 AM
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15. it's a monkey thing
i often find some insight into human behavior by remembering that we are descended from chimps, via a long line of tribal peoples. we like to think that we are modern, and different. and in a lot of ways we are. but when things get sticky, the monkey, and the "primitive" comes out. in a culture of fear, the monkey is always right there.
so, i think that it's the torture. it's the willingness to utterly humiliate and destroy our enemies that our monkey selves want to see when we are afraid. and the psy-ops are intended to keep that fear level up.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:32 AM
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25. exactly
It's all "monkey business". Your point is well taken. My particular interest is the effect of the video media, tv in particular, on the mind of a visually oriented primate.

I suspect the old saw "seeing is believing" might be more profound than we know.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:29 AM
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16. The first words in the Constitution have changed
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:41 AM
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17. They don't - it's all hype.
It is only an illusion propagated by a loud minority and the MSM.

The MSM dwells on the 12% who do really adore him.

Another group tries to vote for the winner instead of trying to vote for the best candidate. They would mildly support whoever they voted for. It's like gambling, they're placing their bet. Half of them betted on Bush.

A larger, but less vocal group supported him because he was already in office and they don't question authority figures. They always support the winner regardless of their vote. These people are swayed by the MSM and the way it presents Bush. These people want to be in the "in crowd" and rarely speak up for the underdog and never fight social injustice unless they are the victim.

And the rest are kept away from him with arrests and shout downs and loyalty oaths.

(I'm just guessing at the percentage. Maybe someone has figures)
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:59 AM
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34. Nazi propaganda works like a charm n/t
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:51 AM
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21. religion and his pandering to the greedy, power-hungry
opressive leaders of institutionalized religion.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:12 AM
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22. It's not that they love Bush, it's that they do love America, but Rove has
...positioned Bush as a symbol of their values. Not that he stands for any of them, the smirking fratboy drunkard.

I found something telling about a profile I saw this weekend about the Pope. There was an interview with a theologian who was describing why JPII might be beatified, and later made a Saint...he said that holiness is an earned thing, that nobody's born holy, or just suddenly becomes that way. It's about the struggle of life and the choices you make.

It seems to me that Bush was a) a fucking lout until he was about 40 and b) somehow magically found piety right before he decided to seek higher office.

Sorokin said it best, 'if you make a religious test of political office in this country, you're asking politicians to lie to you; and it'll be the easiest lie they ever told'.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:14 AM
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23. simple . . . they're brainwashed . . .
they're good Americans, don'tcha know . . and as good Americans, they're obligated to fly the flag, put magnetic ribbons on their cars, and support the president . . . all bullshit aside, it's really as simple as that . . .
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:24 AM
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24. For many of the people who "love" W - it's
because he's not a Dem. That's enough for them.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:35 AM
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27. Yeah
I think there is Clinton envy. They NEED W to be great because they've been taught how horrible Clinton was. The fact that W is really a media whoring moran doesn't bother them. Their belief system was already in place before W was ever elected. For them Republican failure is not an option. They must belief. I believe the word is called delusion.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:54 AM
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29. Sundays and hypocrites
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 11:03 AM by WinterStorm
"Their holy roller preacher, preached sermons for Bush on Sundays". Little did they know that he was thinking about the vote for church & state and the $$$ he would be making.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:58 AM
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31. National epidemic of willful ignorance
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 11:07 AM by notsodumbhillbilly
exacerbated by the "meeja". People capable of rational thought are immune.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:58 AM
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32. Because he's an asshole and justifies the greediness and self centered
agenda of many.:eyes:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:58 AM
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33. The neocons developed a method of quantum visual transmission of
mind altering particles through visual "special effects" in film, and used this brainwashing device in most Arnold Schwarzenegger films in order to gain full control of the US government. If a susceptible subject stares at the movie/tv screen through the entirety of a flashing special effects segment in one of these films, they may be infected, through quantum teleportation, with Cecor6, which is a sub-atomic sized microchip that is quantumly teleported into the cerebral cortex of the left hemisphere of the brain, and lodges there throughout the lifetime of the victim. This device exerts a fairly extensive degree of mind control over the infected person; it works, in fact, on the same principle as Alzheimer's Disease, and produces some symptoms similar to Alzheimer's disease:

Once implanted in the brain of an unwitting victim, Cecor6 effectively blocks all negative information about George W. Bush to the information processing regions of the brain, and the device is activated by key words associated with Bush, such as his name, the word "Iraq", and words such as "Fox", "CNN", "News", and "President".

Cecor6 resembles Alzheimer's Disease not only in the way that it blocks certain information from being processed by the brain, but also by producing a violent reaction in the infected person when the infected person is confronted with any negative information about George W. Bush. For instance, if someone were to say to a person infected with Cecor6, "George Bush lied about Iraq having WMD and there was no justification for the invasion of Iraq whatsoever", this truth would trigger an unwarranted, immediate violent reaction in the brain of the infected person, and they would become angry, irrational, and confused, and would be completely unable to explain the reason for their irrational anger, because the neurons in the left cerebral cortex would be getting a barrage of violently interruptive electrochemical energy from the Cecor6 implant.

This is the reason that it is impossible to argue with almost all republicans: They are, literally, incapable of hearing truth because their brains have literally been fucked with.

Cecor6 is only effective in controlling the minds of people that have difficulty in thinking creatively, and who tend to see everything in terms of black and white. Creative thinkers are not susceptible to the Cecor6 implant, although they may feel a few seconds of discomfort after viewing a special effects segment of an Arnold Scwarzenegger movie when the quantum delivery of Cecor6 is rejected by the ocular processes of the creative thinker. The idea to develop Cecor6 was originally thought up by a conservative think tank called the Heritage Group, and was primarily funded by the Carl Isle Foundation, although it was ultimately developed by scientists working for the Pentagon.

(Is this story true? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. But it is as reasonable an explanation as anything else for why such a large minority of Americans can even tolerate the thought of Buh. Then again, "birds of a feather flock together". So perhaps evil, corrupt, hypocritical people just naturally gravitate towards Buh, while good, decent, honest people have an immediate negative visceral reaction to him, like they would have if they were confronted with a "demon from hell")
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:01 AM
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35. Being uninformed
None of them have a clue about anything going on in a real sense.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:02 AM
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36. Because most people are too lazy to inquire about anything.
Especially about the Chimp-in-Chief. They just drink the Kool-Aid.
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